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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

The Cheshire Cat posted:

This kind of thing makes me more and more aware how far the gulf in our culture has grown. Like this isn't even a disagreement about the best way to solve problems that both sides acknowledge. This is both sides having sets of values so completely different to each other that they don't even agree on what the problems are. It's kind of scary knowing there are people around that see "immigration" as a problem that needs to be "solved" rather than like, a thing that (at worst) exists and in my more personal viewpoint is a net positive to society, and the most we should be arguing about are implementation issues.

The frustrating thing, which you touch on in your last sentence, is that there are issues that need to be solved with regard to immigration, and we can't to the business of solving them because we have a bunch of loud assholes worried about seeing brown people and hearing different languages being spoken. For example, we can reasonably ask: how do we most effectively provide support for students who speak English or French as a second language to assure they're reaching their full potential and won't end up educationally and/or economically disadvantaged? But, no, we have a bunch of gammons yelling about "SPEAK ENGLISH DAMNIT!"

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Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

infernal machines posted:

:shrug: If that's where you stopped reading, fair enough. There were other examples as well.

The first example was complete nonsense. The second example, as explained in detail above, is either a fabulation or a confabulation. Exactly how many times do you think it's necessary to check what a media critic says, only to find that it's nonsense, before it's okay to dismiss the guy as a hack looking for publicity?

And I didn't stop after two. Before I posted I looked up this guy's history of articles. I found one that I was very familiar with. It involves him ripping the Sun and the Star for reporting on the fascinating history of Ms. Nadia Guo. Ms. Guo was disbarred by the Law Society of Ontario for (hilariously) unprofessional conduct. She also worked as an escort at all times - and the Law Society explicitly ignored that while deciding she had to be disbarred. The Sun and the Star reported on Ms. Guo and her disbarrment, and chose to include mention of her escort history. I mean really, it wasn't history, because she continues to advertise her services. Anyway, Mr. Goldsbie decided to rip the meida for doing that, notwithstanding that Ms. Guo is proud of what she does (she said so to both the Star and the Sun).

patonthebach
Aug 22, 2016

by R. Guyovich

Dreylad posted:

I would target social media before I would target guns, trucks, knives, bats, or actual bats in order to curb violence. In a free society if someone really wants to harm people, they're going to figure out a way to do it.

hopefully your definition of social media include 4chan and clones and reddit.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
So what's everyone's plans for the weekend? I just booked myself into a lovely overnight stay at the emergency room because some rear end in a top hat hit me with his car as I was crossing at an intersection.

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

Arcsquad12 posted:

So what's everyone's plans for the weekend? I just booked myself into a lovely overnight stay at the emergency room because some rear end in a top hat hit me with his car as I was crossing at an intersection.

Ouch. Get better. And stop worrying about poo poo posting until it won't hurt to laugh, because otherwise you won't be doing it right.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I figure I'm just going to be stiff for the next week, considering I stood up, told the driver he was a loving idiot before he drove off and then walked home to call an uber. My shoulders are aching a bit and my right leg is gonna be bruised, but I'm still in one piece and more annoyed than in pain.

In hindsight I should have made him stay or at least tried to get his plate number, but I was finishing up my shift, I was tired and I just wanted to go home so Im not exactly the sharpest right now.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Arcsquad12 posted:

So what's everyone's plans for the weekend? I just booked myself into a lovely overnight stay at the emergency room because some rear end in a top hat hit me with his car as I was crossing at an intersection.

Pretend the internet doest exist for 2 days because the news the last 48 hours has drained me of almost all my hope and good will.

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

Please tell us you at least filed a police report. Even if you think you feel fine now, it's common for the pain to get a lot worse after the adrenaline wears off and lovely drivers need to be held accountable.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I walked home after getting hit, called my mom and then took an uber to the hospital. I'm in Ottawa and the police station on Elgin is right across the canal from my house. Depending on how long I'm here tonight, I'll have to file the report in the morning but my mom wanted me to get checked out, so I'm doing that first.

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

Arcsquad12 posted:

I walked home after getting hit, called my mom and then took an uber to the hospital. I'm in Ottawa and the police station on Elgin is right across the canal from my house. Depending on how long I'm here tonight, I'll have to file the report in the morning but my mom wanted me to get checked out, so I'm doing that first.

Hey, you're right near me.

That's fine. Even if you feel great the next morning, file the police report. It matters tremendously for insurance purposes. You may not think you need it now, and we all hope you don't. But you might. So it matters. Especially the part where he drove off before you could get identifying information. Which is really important when you talk to the police, because they right it all down and then the insurers accept it as gospel whatever the actual truth is.

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

MA-Horus posted:


I used to be pretty pro-gun, "legal gun owners!!!" and all that poo poo. I'm done. If you can't hunt with a bolt-action/Lever-action/slide action rifle/shotgun, get better at hunting. Nobody should have a pistol unless under very specific circumstances.


I did all my hunting with a muzzle loading firearm. A mass shooting with one of those would pretty much require the target to stand in a straight line.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Well that was five hours waiting to get a five minute explanation for what is already figured out in my own. No breaks, just bruises.

In off to bed.

Booourns
Jan 20, 2004
Please send a report when you see me complain about other posters and threads outside of QCS

~thanks!

Dreylad posted:

I would target social media before I would target guns, trucks, knives, bats, or actual bats in order to curb violence. In a free society if someone really wants to harm people, they're going to figure out a way to do it.

We can target social media AND guns at the same time
Trucks, knives, bats and actual bats are not guns

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




I got a call from IPSOS last night regarding the upcoming Alberta provincial election. I forgot that Stephen Mandel was leader of the Alberta Liberals :barf:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
There are Alberta Liberals?

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

infernal machines posted:

There are Alberta Liberals?

Yes! I estimate their total membership, staff and base of support to easily number in the tens of people.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
This is like finding out there are BC Conservatives

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
If only there was two strong progressive pro pipeline forces in Alberta.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Aces High posted:

I got a call from IPSOS last night regarding the upcoming Alberta provincial election. I forgot that Stephen Mandel was leader of the Alberta Liberals :barf:

he's the leader of the Alberta party~

the leader of the Alberta libs is a man named "David khan"

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Looks like my super MP hit the hammer on the nail with this recent mailer then eh



Cheryl is still around eh? I was hoping she'd eventually get voted out, but she's really captured the hearts and minds of the Ottawa Valley.

I guess you're not going to get any real change when every young person moves away as soon as they can (myself included)

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

triplexpac posted:

Cheryl is still around eh? I was hoping she'd eventually get voted out, but she's really captured the hearts and minds of the Ottawa Valley.

I guess you're not going to get any real change when every young person moves away as soon as they can (myself included)

I guess we can all take solace in the fact that the boomers are devastating the elder care system which they will be relying on in like 10 years anyway.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Boy howdy I sure hope the one demographic guaranteed to vote gets even more aggrieved and reactionary

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




infernal machines posted:

Boy howdy I sure hope the one demographic guaranteed to vote gets even more aggrieved and reactionary

Its a vicious and depressing cycle of voting to defund things until you need them then complain that its young people being lazy that thing no longer works or has become too expensive.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

Furnaceface posted:

Its a vicious and depressing cycle of voting to defund things until you need them then complain that its young people being lazy that thing no longer works or has become too expensive.

now:
"I don't need this thing, why am I paying for it?"
later:
"I need this thing, why is nobody paying for it?"

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/jason-kenney-vows-to-lower-alberta-s-youth-minimum-wage-to-13-1.4338017

lol straight up "vote for me to make life worse for young workers"

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I for one am shocked that Jason Kenney is being a miserable fat jackass doing hateful, stupid things. I mean what in his history would possibly prepare us for that? :v:

And yet that Fildebrandt character is even crazier and worse. What the hell is wrong with this province?

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




PT6A posted:

I for one am shocked that Jason Kenney is being a miserable fat jackass doing hateful, stupid things. I mean what in his history would possibly prepare us for that? :v:

And yet that Fildebrandt character is even crazier and worse. What the hell is wrong with this province?

One of the tar sands companies unearthed an ancient parasitic brain worm that makes people stupid.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Pinterest Mom posted:

he's the leader of the Alberta party~

the leader of the Alberta libs is a man named "David khan"

The fact that he is a party leader at all, but then again considering we have Jason Kenney here and was welcomed with open arms. This province

Well, here's hoping with all this continued vote splitting amongst the right that Notley will get term 2 and she can get some more work done in 4 years

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


https://twitter.com/forexposure_txt/status/1100037775540203520

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
people really believe that

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Unpaid internships need to die but instead the cancer is spreading.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Da fuk

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


Well, going after kids is a solid conservative strategy. Basically most of what Ford has done this year in office is cut away at anything the youth had, opportunities to free post-secondary education, access to quality secondary education or elementary education or specialized education. Children's aid cuts, class sizes increases, dumb bans on phones that breed distrust and distract teachers. Cutting out kids from OHIP+ in some dumb analytics free move, like just any household can absorb such costs even with insurance in a way that doesn't just randomly harm the kid in some situations, just having all kids covered made sense. It's been a horrifying stirring to watch in Ontario, horribly sad to see them just go straight for the kids with machetes out, "efficiencies."

I had a coworker on Friday crying next to me, because our benefits are so lovely and her child has very expensive medication. So a cost that was covered under OHIP+ was forced to be covered under hers, which is a large burden on her family now.

Syfe fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Mar 17, 2019

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Syfe posted:

Well, going after kids is a solid conservative strategy. Basically most of what Ford has done this year in office is cut away at anything the youth had, opportunities to free post-secondary education, access to quality secondary education or elementary education or specialized education. Children's aid cuts, class sizes increases, dumb bans on phones that breed distrust and distract teachers. Cutting out kids from OHIP+ in some dumb analytics free move, like just any household can absorb such costs even with insurance in a way that doesn't just randomly harm the kid in some situations, just having all kids covered made sense. It's been a horrifying stirring to watch in Ontario, horribly sad to see them just go straight for the kids with machetes out, "efficiencies."

I had a coworker on Friday crying next to me, because our benefits are so lovely and her child has very expensive medication. So a cost that was covered under OHIP+ was forced to be covered under hers, which is a large burden on her family now.
Yeah but she didn't vote or voted for Ford right?

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


cowofwar posted:

Yeah but she didn't vote or voted for Ford right?

She did not, and said that gives her ability to call bullshit on it and any of his poo poo.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




The OHIP+ changes are going to cost the province more, which is the funniest and dumbest part of it.

They arent even trying to hide their hatred for younger generations. Boomers deserve to be left on the melting ice floes in Hudson Bay as food for starving polar bears.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Conservatives: vote for us for a poorer and more atomized society

Boomers: gently caress yeah how do I get a lifetime membership?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


We should get rid of the minimum wage all together, imagine how many jobs the all powerful overtaxed job creators would rain down upon those working hard to join the middle class.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Powershift posted:

We should get rid of the minimum wage all together, imagine how many jobs the all powerful overtaxed job creators would rain down upon those working hard to join the middle class.

Honestly I feel like we arent that far away from right wing politicians all over the west actually running on this since its the natural progression after taxes on rich/business have been reduced to near zero. Naturally they will wait until their boomer base has retired first though.

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Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


I contend that there should be a maximum wage(which could maybe be tied to company profits, ergo it can raise and so do employee wages, but there has to be some other use for money than just allowing it to goto rich fucks. While right now a worker might a one-time bonus if the company does well, not even a raise), and also that worker wage is then tied to how much the CEO makes, so if your CEO makes x amount more, every employee must make x amount more too. If the company is doing well, everybody should benefit goddamnit.

There needs to be something other than the vacuum to the top with many companies not even bothering to reinvest into the company itself. (I'm actually somewhat lucky in that the company I work for, does reinvest in it's workers and structure somewhat, but this is also a first for my employment history.)

edit: sorry for the ranty quality of this post.

Syfe fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Mar 17, 2019

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