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Razorwired posted:Iirc there are also Rockbell Rangers that report it's another problem that Vic constantly grabs them off the con floor to act as his personal con staff without compensating them. he's in the Manafort school of 'never stop doing crimes' but this time it's not funny because these crimes hurt people and aren't white collar dumb poo poo.
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manafort did some hosed up poo poo to his wife, he just didn't get charged for it. look it up if you want. He's not a good example of a victimless crime doer.
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White collar crime isn’t exactly victimless, either. Who do you think shoulders the cost of stolen money from a company? Hint: it’s not the leadership.
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Mors Rattus posted:White collar crime isn’t exactly victimless, either. Who do you think shoulders the cost of stolen money from a company? Hint: it’s not the leadership. Also, like, man, aside from all the domestic/money stuff, I'm not sure I'd call it "victimless crimes" being the PR guy for bloody dictators just because he didn't go out in the street and pull the trigger himself.
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That Old Tree posted:Also, like, man, aside from all the domestic/money stuff, I'm not sure I'd call it "victimless crimes" being the PR guy for bloody dictators just because he didn't go out in the street and pull the trigger himself.
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Manafort is responsible for close to half a million deaths in Africa and Ukraine through his advising of despots.
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Laying all those deaths directly at his feet feels like a stretch to me, but Manafort has a laundry list of brutal murderers he served and suppported in the interest of lining his own pockets, all in the interest of building up his own wealth and influence. He's definitely caused more death in the course of running his business than if taken up a job flipping burgers. He's absolute human filth without any sort of moral compass. Probably not the example you were looking for.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Manafort is responsible for close to half a million deaths in Africa and Ukraine through his advising of despots. also the Philippines
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John Wick just announced that he'll be announcing a publisher for 7th Sea (including Khitai) on the 1st of April. 
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Lemon-Lime posted:John Wick just announced that he'll be announcing a publisher for 7th Sea (including Khitai) on the 1st of April. Personally I hope it is AEG and they are just going to gut the project out of spite. Such an unbelievably stupid day to pick.
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Lemon-Lime posted:John Wick just announced that he'll be announcing a publisher for 7th Sea (including Khitai) on the 1st of April. Who wants to bet it's Modiphius?
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Personally I hope it is AEG and they are just going to gut the project out of spite. No matter what John Wick may do with 7th Sea, I promise you whatever Dancey would have planned would be worse.
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Mar 16, 2019 19:04
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I mean, the setting content will probably be fine.
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The joke I suppose is at least whomever gets 7th Sea will probably charge a reasonable fee for it.
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I really wonder what company would be dumb enough to take on this insane burden. I could see it being some Media Company that will plunder the IP for a TV show or movie that will never quite go into production. They have to at least be taking ownership of the rights, right?
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I mean, most of the production work is done and it's just a publishing deal, right?
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Well, there are four books left for the 7th Sea kickstarter, and about half the writing work on those is done, and some of the art and layout. That isn't much of a burden, all things considered. 7th Sea: Khitai, similarly, has a significant amount of work already done on it. After that, we have four sourcebooks for Khitai, and that's the big weight, considering that it's uncertain if any are even started. So, about nine books, with about a fourth or so of the work on them being done judging from preview material - it could be more. There's also some adventures and the like, but those presumably will just be relatively cheaply produced PDFs with reused art. A lot of it depends on how much previous books have sold, and how much he can convince them is recoupable.
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I mean it's magpie games are we gonna pretend it's not? because let's be honest nobody else is invested in it at a publisher scale and mdt was like, manning the jwp booth at origins last year? basically? unless wick seriously burned bridges, it's magpie games
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MollyMetroid posted:I mean it's magpie games Maybe they can partner with WotC to form a singularity of all the most prominent ~well-meaning~ people you should nevertheless avoid like the plague.
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Mar 16, 2019 21:13
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They'd need to get Monte Cook back and Ryan Dancey
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What’s the Steve Jobs of MMO marketing up to these days?
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aeg hired him again iirc
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MollyMetroid posted:aeg hired him again iirc Yes, after they sold the L5R rights to Fantasy Flight, which means Dancey is in charge of Love Letter and Smash Up.
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I could believe AEG making a deal to publish books and take a cut, but outright buying back 7th Sea would be real weird after they divested of RPG stuff, especially when Wick has already basically given away the vast majority of sales which got him into this mess in the first place.
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Kai Tave posted:Yes, after they sold the L5R rights to Fantasy Flight, which means Dancey is in charge of Love Letter and Smash Up. Before that, IIRC. He's their COO. I get the impression Dancey would want nothing to do with RPGs again.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Before that, IIRC. He's their COO. A mercy to us all, truly.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Before that, IIRC. He's their COO. The feeling is mutual.
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MollyMetroid posted:I mean it's magpie games yea it's gonna be magpie and I genuinely have no faith in them being able to match his insane plan so RIP 7th Sea except for what's already done I guess.
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just be thankful it collapsed before the steampunk sword and planet 7th Sea 1866 or whatever
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MollyMetroid posted:just be thankful it collapsed before the steampunk sword and planet 7th Sea 1866 or whatever I would buy that stupid product 
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sexpig by night posted:I would buy that stupid product I would pirate it and read the lore parts only.
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I will buy that product if it ever reaches print but what I meant was he could have also thrown the kickstarter for it up to try and pay for the first two that would have been completely unrecoverable at that point
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MollyMetroid posted:They'd need to get Monte Cook back and Ryan Dancey what if Monte Cook Games was the publisher 
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I just want my Not India book at this point.
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I only ever wanted one thing, and Wick couldn't deliver on playable rules. I can mine 1e for setting all day, I just wanted something less absurdly crunchy.
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Liquid Communism posted:I only ever wanted one thing, and Wick couldn't deliver on playable rules. I can mine 1e for setting all day, I just wanted something less absurdly crunchy. This isn't really an I-told-you-so but has Wick ever been responsible for a game where the mechanics really shine?
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gradenko_2000 posted:what if Monte Cook Games was the publisher then you lose Mark Diaz Truman as the publisher so
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/15/dungeons-and-dragons-is-more-popular-than-ever-thanks-to-twitch.html
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MollyMetroid posted:My dude, we know the etymology. And the idea of the “innocent” etymology is wrong. The girl in the book Lolita isn’t actually called Lolita (she’s called Dolores). The narrator is the pedophile and gives her that name specifically to sexualise her. So any argument that it wasn’t meant to be used in that context instantly falls flat.
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Kai Tave posted:Yes, after they sold the L5R rights to Fantasy Flight, which means Dancey is in charge of Love Letter and Smash Up. Smash Up only. AEG sold Love Letter because they needed to make room for more mediocre board games.
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