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VJeff posted:lol was the story Punk doing that on purpose or was it an accident? it was a pretty clever angle. The New Breed guys were all upstart heels and they figured Punk was upstart as well but he had other plans. So he kept loving off in various ways.
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VJeff posted:lol was the story Punk doing that on purpose or was it an accident? On purpose. He was an extraordinarily sarcastic "convert" to the New Breed.
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Remember they had that New Breed/Originals match at Wrestlemania that was a real let-down, then like the next week on ECW they got given time and had an absolutely loving incredible match? Edit: Might be the one Angry_Ed is talking about?
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Some of the New Breed had a bit of potential. I thought maybe on the b-show under Heyman, Kevin Thorn might actually get groomed into something and used effectively. Cool music, good look and Shelly Martinez as a valet. Elijah Burke seemed like he could have done a lot better as well. Also the brief Marcus Cor Von, aka Monty Brown, run. How has nobody in this generation been doing 'The Pounce' as a move? edit: Man, I remember having that John Morrison avatar for a few years too. Another guy they dropped the ball on. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Mar 17, 2019 |
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PaybackJack posted:Some of the New Breed had a bit of potential. I thought maybe on the b-show under Heyman, Kevin Thorn might actually get groomed into something and used effectively. Cool music, good look and Shelly Martinez as a valet. Keith Lee does it
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Nah it was all atrocious
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It was often the best WWE show in any given week!
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At a push and even then, that was in a very very awful period all together.
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It was fun for a while and that's all I wanted out of a one-hour wrestling show, and if it came back tomorrow with even half that same roster I'd finally like something about the modern company and the main roster
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PaybackJack posted:Some of the New Breed had a bit of potential. I thought maybe on the b-show under Heyman, Kevin Thorn might actually get groomed into something and used effectively. Cool music, good look and Shelly Martinez as a valet. Lance Archer has a pretty good Pounce.
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It's a Fastlanemas miracle: Sidewalk Slam for Fastlane 2019, much earlier than expected!
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WWECW had it's fun moments, but hasn't really aged well in a world where NXT exists.
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If anyone hasn't listened to the WOR with Mike Tenay on the Destroyer, you need to listen to it. Absolutely incredible audio.
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PaybackJack posted:Cool music, good look [citation needed]
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triplexpac posted:WWECW had it's fun moments, but hasn't really aged well in a world where NXT exists. Oh yeah, NXT is by far the superior show. Which is ironic because I was one of those pissed when ECW on Scifi first got replaced by NXT even with Daniel Bryan in the show, and it ended up morphing into something beautiful. sleep with the vicious posted:If anyone hasn't listened to the WOR with Mike Tenay on the Destroyer, you need to listen to it. Absolutely incredible audio. 
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Monty Brown was too good for this world and way too good for wwecw (whose birth was near simultaneous with wrestlehut's)
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STONE COLD 64 posted:Monty Brown was too good for this world and way too good for wwecw (whose birth was near simultaneous with wrestlehut's) I mean he didn't die or anything, just had to go be The Bernie Mac Show in real life.
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I'm laughing at that extended segment on WOR with Garrett and Dave complaining about voters letting Becky win Women's MVP. People like Becky, let it go, dude.
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm laughing at that extended segment on WOR with Garrett and Dave complaining about voters letting Becky win Women's MVP. the fans that are already there do like her yeah. the most valuable player though is still ronda because without her they probably don't get the fox television deal. ronda does fail just as bad as becky when it comes to moving ratings though so there's probably a good amount of doubt there.
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every mvp award in every sport is just "the best one" instead of most valuable. They should have called it something else if they didn't want that to happen
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STONE COLD 64 posted:the fans that are already there do like her yeah. the most valuable player though is still ronda because without her they probably don't get the fox television deal. ronda does fail just as bad as becky when it comes to moving ratings though so there's probably a good amount of doubt there. Star or no star, no one in WWE today is going to change the fact that they are not writing tv that is compelling enough to want to watch for three hours. Say what you will about the poo poo surrounding Steve Austin's mega run, the show felt must watch because you never knew when something would happen, Austin could do anything, at any time, to anyone. Now, you know when the star will be there and you know nothing important is going to happen between those times. They program it in such a way that you can skip large portions of the show.
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My word, what did we do? https://twitter.com/BTSheetsPod/status/1107506821965770752
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Cavauro posted:every mvp award in every sport is just "the best one" instead of most valuable. They should have called it something else if they didn't want that to happen I’m not sure what you call it to avoid the exact same result. Besides I mostly found it funny because it’s not like it’s a totally indefensible result anyways. Becky is and was legitimately the most popular women’s wrestler and at for at least part of 2018 was literally the most popular wrestler in WWE. STONE COLD 64 posted:the fans that are already there do like her yeah. the most valuable player though is still ronda because without her they probably don't get the fox television deal. ronda does fail just as bad as becky when it comes to moving ratings though so there's probably a good amount of doubt there. I don’t know how true that even is. They got a lot of money because they’ve got significantly better numbers in the right demos than what Fox is airing right now, most of which actually costs a lot to make in house. This past Tuesday’s Smackdown pulled the following demo ratings: 18-49: 0.71 18-34: 0.50 In comparison, here’s how Fox programming did this past Friday. 18-49: 0.60 18-34: 0.28 Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Mar 18, 2019 |
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Yeah I mean “Most valuable” just basically boils down to “drew the most money” and isn’t that kind of...outside of the realm of voting? It’s like voting on which iPhone made Apple the most money in 2018. You can google that.
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Captain Magic posted:Yeah I mean “Most valuable” just basically boils down to “drew the most money” and isn’t that kind of...outside of the realm of voting? From the way I've interpreted from Dave talking about it a long time (this award almost never goes where he thinks it should), is that the wiggle room is which person did their company the most good, while also being that company's biggest draw. So I guess it would be like, if Christian would've won it over Cena that first year Christian was in TNA, because Christian meant the world to TNA, and was their biggest draw, and the WWE would've been better able to sustain the loss of Cena that year, despite him being their biggest draw. I . . . don't think that's the best example but I'm having trouble coming up with one.
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Rick posted:From the way I've interpreted from Dave talking about it a long time (this award almost never goes where he thinks it should), is that the wiggle room is which person did their company the most good, while also being that company's biggest draw. I think that’s the gist of it. Maybe replace Christian with Angle?
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I mean personally I don’t care about the logic of the voters or the intent of the award, I just think Ronda sucks as a person so I’m glad she lost. I don’t care if the award was for “best shoot fighter turned fake wrestler because she threw a series of tantrums and quit UFC after two losses,” I would still want Ronda to lose it.
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Karmine posted:I mean personally I don’t care about the logic of the voters or the intent of the award, I just think Ronda sucks as a person so I’m glad she lost. I don’t care if the award was for “best shoot fighter turned fake wrestler because she threw a series of tantrums and quit UFC after two losses,” I would still want Ronda to lose it. Why would you be happy people who think murdering someone isn't particularly vile agree with you?
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The biggest bullshit win is Ronda beating Utami Hayashishita for Rookie of the Year
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm laughing at that extended segment on WOR with Garrett and Dave complaining about voters letting Becky win Women's MVP. Didn't happen
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Man I gotta watch this Plan B video, they'd brought it up before but Dave and Garrett talking to Ron Fuller about it was really fascinating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-sLiA0cP0A
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Jerusalem posted:Man I gotta watch this Plan B video, they'd brought it up before but Dave and Garrett talking to Ron Fuller about it was really fascinating. I'm glad you linked to that because I've been meaning to watch it for a week when I hear it mentioned on podcasts but forget by the time I get out of the car.
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Smoking Crow posted:The biggest bullshit win is Ronda beating Utami Hayashishita for Rookie of the Year
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Smoking Crow posted:The biggest bullshit win is Ronda beating Utami Hayashishita for Rookie of the Year
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Smoking Crow posted:The biggest bullshit win is Ronda beating Utami Hayashishita for Rookie of the Year In fairness there probably aren’t that many Yakuza members with Wrestling Observer subscriptions.
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Them killing Magic Jonson's coaching was mana my soul desperately needed.
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A look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMMgsVjVV3Q
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