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Polgas
Sep 2, 2018


With one hand he saves gebs. With the other he commits goblin genocide. A true neutral.

Optimal play is to let everyone fight then enter the world war late in the game.

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Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Ikrimah is a soft-headed old fool who would abandon brothers and sisters abroad to slaughter and repression. Age has dulled him and caused him to lose perspective.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Randarkman posted:

Ikrimah is a soft-headed old fool who would abandon brothers and sisters abroad to slaughter and repression. Age has dulled him and caused him to lose perspective.

ah yes much better to do the slaughtering and repression of brothers and sisters ourselves

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

V. Illych L. posted:

ah yes much better to do the slaughtering and repression of brothers and sisters ourselves

This comment has been noted, brother.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

V. Illych L. posted:

yeah which is why we really want to be able to go to war once our enemies are already busy with something else

rolling our tanks up to the border posts is a bad way of doing this

e. A seems like the best way to do it, cozying up with morocco to keep the fascists contained, but just as we don't want andalusi beria i'm also pretty uncomfortable with the notion of an andalusi goebbels taking over. C is an old-guard revolutionary and more likely to base the power in something at least a little pluralistic rather than simply drumming up fanaticism or stamping out dissent

A is obviously Andalusian Molotov, not Goebbels

Polgas
Sep 2, 2018


With one hand he saves gebs. With the other he commits goblin genocide. A true neutral.

Iberia is simply too weak to jump head first into war. The other powers even Russia have global spanning empires but this is also a weakness. They will get dragged into a war sooner than Iberia which will give her the opening she needs to create the global spanning revolution.

Socialist germany has to be left for itself for the time being because even if this leads to the fascist being beaten and contained russia will see it as a threat somewhere down the line and invade. Let the Gallic empire and Russia wear themselves down.

Polgas fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Mar 18, 2019

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

420 Gank Mid posted:

A is obviously Andalusian Molotov, not Goebbels

It's also a bit reminiscent of the actual plans Beria had as well, like allowing for referendums on German unification and allowing for increased self-determination in many countries within the Soviet block, think there was also a bunch of trade stuff there as well.

Beria probably sought to pursue this, as well as liberalizing reforms (in the sense of cutting back on arrests and political repression) because he actually lacked a real power base within the Party and the armed forces (and therefore had to turn to attracting popular and foreign support if he was to grab and hold on to power), especially after he was no longer officially in control of the NKVD and he figured that he essentially had to make a grab at power as with Stalin gone there was virtually nothing protecting him from his enemies anymore.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
C

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!
Edited the final tally:

Option A - Ghiyath - 15 - Soup du Jour, Ikasuhito, Mr.Morgenstern, orangelex44, Guper, 420 Gank Mid, GSD, Flavius Aetass, zedar, Slaan, everydayfalls, aqu, Captainicus, Average Lettuce, Zikan.

Option B - Mizanur - 42 - TheFlyingLlama, Randarkman, QuoProQuid, Obliterati, KYOON GRIFFEY JR, CommissarMega, punched my v-card at camp, Red John, Lord Cyrahzax, Frionnel, Xelkelvos, Super Jay Mann, Ibblebibble, Chatrapati, Kangxi, Luhood, Sampatrick, Snipee, ModernMajorGeneral, LordGugs, habeasdorkus, Aeromancia, Jack2142, Archaeology Hat, Erwin the German, Ghost of Mussolini, ZearothK, Jeoh, Innocent_Bystander, Noir89, Weebus, Lynneth, Ralepozozaxe, Mirello, Tricky Dick Nixon, Dance Officer, McGavin, GunnerJ, frankenfreak, Roobanguy, crimea, Tybalt.

Option C - Ikrimah - 39 - paragon1, Talas, MaxieSatan, Crazycryodude, Hitlers Gay Secret, Pakled, Tiberius Thyben, NewMars, ChrisAsmadi, rudecyrus, HiHo ChiRho, devildragon777, Technowolf, AJ_Impy, loving love Fiona Apple, skipThings, Danny Glands, Polgas, Pacho, tatankatonk, WilliamAnderson, Caustic Soda, Vinny Possum, Stalingrad, ChaseSP, Lustful Man Hugs, Hefty Leftist, wiegieman, V. Illych L., Top Hats Monthly, Eleven Eleven, Rodyle, puppets freak me out, Tiger Crazy, RabidWeasel, Agean90, ManifunkDestiny, Dreissi, Grammarchist, Lord Windy.

I'll close the vote when I get home in a couple hours.

hashashash fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Mar 19, 2019

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Voting for C-Irikmah. Socialist Germany has a manpower and an industry advantage over the others they can handle this. We, however need allies and mutual aid and the Balkans sounds like a good start.

Polgas
Sep 2, 2018


With one hand he saves gebs. With the other he commits goblin genocide. A true neutral.

Attacking the balkans is insane.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
OOC: C is a bit of a cursed chalice because it puts us on the wrong side of Russia, whose focus we're going to desperately need against the fascists and not fighting with our allies (and possibly us) in the Balkans. Also, Germany is gonna be hella important to have on our side or at least not in the fascists hands- and a quicker victory against the fascists might stop Francia from straight up invading our comrades in the Ruhr.

IC: : (Worriedly flipping through reports on how much concrete is needed to fortify the Pyrenees in depth) It's going to take time to build full, modern static defenses, and the slower we are to start the more likely it is that they won't be completed when the fascists come.

ManifunkDestiny
Aug 2, 2005
THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.
Gimme C. I don't want Lavrentiy Beria running things.

Dreissi
Feb 14, 2007

:dukedog:
College Slice
C. Mostly because I want us to be friends with the Balkans; that's where my named character is!

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Imma vote B

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

Changing my vote from A to C in the interest of not being a splitter.

crimea
Nov 16, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
Changing my vote from A to B

Tybalt
Jul 19, 2013
I vote B.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

V. Illych L. posted:

ah yes much better to do the slaughtering and repression of brothers and sisters ourselves

you either drive the wheel or you get crushed under it

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

The motion to elect Mizanur Mansur new head of the Party will hopefully pass unanimously then?

It would be a shame if those who were earlier against can't simply admit their mistake.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

the Party comes first, obviously. victory for the revolution, come what may!

still should probably spend our resources on fortifying our borders and strengthening our industry rather than destructive adventures killing people who ought to be our allies

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Grammarchist posted:

Changing my vote from A to C in the interest of not being a splitter.


crimea posted:

Changing my vote from A to B

This is why I suggested Ranked-Choice. FPtP is a terrible system of election.

Lord Windy
Mar 26, 2010
C

Lets all be friends!

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!
:siren:Vote closed!:siren: The final tally:

Option A - Ghiyath - 15 - Soup du Jour, Ikasuhito, Mr.Morgenstern, orangelex44, Guper, 420 Gank Mid, GSD, Flavius Aetass, zedar, Slaan, everydayfalls, aqu, Captainicus, Average Lettuce, Zikan.

Option B - Mizanur - 42 - TheFlyingLlama, Randarkman, QuoProQuid, Obliterati, KYOON GRIFFEY JR, CommissarMega, punched my v-card at camp, Red John, Lord Cyrahzax, Frionnel, Xelkelvos, Super Jay Mann, Ibblebibble, Chatrapati, Kangxi, Luhood, Sampatrick, Snipee, ModernMajorGeneral, LordGugs, habeasdorkus, Aeromancia, Jack2142, Archaeology Hat, Erwin the German, Ghost of Mussolini, ZearothK, Jeoh, Innocent_Bystander, Noir89, Weebus, Lynneth, Ralepozozaxe, Mirello, Tricky Dick Nixon, Dance Officer, McGavin, GunnerJ, frankenfreak, Roobanguy, crimea, Tybalt.

Option C - Ikrimah - 39 - paragon1, Talas, MaxieSatan, Crazycryodude, Hitlers Gay Secret, Pakled, Tiberius Thyben, NewMars, ChrisAsmadi, rudecyrus, HiHo ChiRho, devildragon777, Technowolf, AJ_Impy, loving love Fiona Apple, skipThings, Danny Glands, Polgas, Pacho, tatankatonk, WilliamAnderson, Caustic Soda, Vinny Possum, Stalingrad, ChaseSP, Lustful Man Hugs, Hefty Leftist, wiegieman, V. Illych L., Top Hats Monthly, Eleven Eleven, Rodyle, puppets freak me out, Tiger Crazy, RabidWeasel, Agean90, ManifunkDestiny, Dreissi, Grammarchist, Lord Windy.


And so Mizanur shall be declared our new Supreme Leader, though only just. Looks like we're in for an explosive year...

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P



BUCKLE UP

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.
German Civil War, here we go!

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

:getin:

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
This is fine.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

:frogsiren:MAXIMUM STALIN:frogsiren:

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.
Guys, we're not Stalin. We're Beria. :getin:

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

While I respectfully disagreed with Immediate Apocalyptic Hellwar I'm prepared to abide by the will of the party. Belgrade by Eid Al Fitr. Paris by Christmas.

Mr.Morgenstern
Sep 14, 2012

Hashim posted:

And so Mizanur shall be declared our new Supreme Leader, though only just. Looks like we're in for an explosive year...

Wait, is this a thing where we get our own civil war event based on how many votes the opposing choices got? It would on brand as hell.

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists
brb writing a furious op-ed about how the Ghiyath Gang are a bunch of wreckers who ruined everything

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010

Hashim posted:

And so Mizanur shall be declared our new Supreme Leader, though only just. Looks like we're in for an explosive year...

I'm sure this just means that Iberia will take sound diplomatic decisions based on the best policies of both leaders :unsmith:

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Still not keen on the random wars in Italy but as long as Morocco burns. :shrug:

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

The :hist101: option reigns supreme, as it should.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Too late to vote, but in this hellworld it could have had no other outcome.

Vinny Possum
Sep 21, 2015

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I was always secretly voting for Minazur, my recorded vote is a Jirzunid plot to discredit me.

Uphold Minazur-Mazinism!

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Snipee
Mar 27, 2010
I’m sure that purging half of our government right before pissing off the rest of the world can only lead to good things.

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