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theflyingorc posted:One guy survived both of them! There's a pretty good documentary on Netflix about this guy called 'twice' Scipiotik posted:If you're close enough that any of those things matter you're dead, just a matter of on what timeline. On a long enough timeline human survival drops to 0 anyway.
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Pakled posted:Uh wasn't the plea deal guaranteeing him no jail time? What the hell is he doing? Lol, you think a billionaire isn't guaranteed no jail time by existing.
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EwokEntourage posted:He didn't have to plead guilty, he just had to admit the evidence showed he was guilty, which is what he is refusing to do  they have him on video though
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Which is better for a prosecutor's future political prospects? Putting one famous pelt on the wall, or a million dollars here, a million dollars there for their political campaigns? Hell, probably doesn't even cost a single million to buy both sides of a handjob case, plus purchase a little evidence mishandling by the cops. I expect Mr. Kraft's lawyers know that he can buy his way out of this one even further than the special rich-white-guy treatment he got already.
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Slo-Tek posted:Which is better for a prosecutor's future political prospects? Putting one famous pelt on the wall, or a million dollars here, a million dollars there for their political campaigns? Hell, probably doesn't even cost a single million to buy both sides of a handjob case. Ding Ding! Enough money can solve any legal problem. Everyone is buyable for the right price.
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Yeah those pleas are what poor as poo poo people take to not miss work and lose their jobs as they fight a trial that could land them in jail. Rich people don't have to worry about going to court and getting fired from work.
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Pakled posted:Uh wasn't the plea deal guaranteeing him no jail time? What the hell is he doing? But it would require that he admit that he went to get a handy which is just not done by good Christian men that love their wives very much.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:35
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Jealous Cow posted:
The guys who took over that wildlife reserve were on video too
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Booourns posted:The guys who took over that wildlife reserve were on video too Jury nullification is a hell of a thing
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theflyingorc posted:One guy survived both of them! IIRC, there were nine or ten people who claimed to survive both, though not all of their claims could be verified.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:39
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Robert Kraft is thinking that no one can force him to do anything, and he's right.
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ReidRansom posted:Doesn't offset him running cover for Trump, imo. He can still get bent. Though I wouldn't have wished him dead, which he soon will be probably. imagine being this petty
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Mar 20, 2019 16:42
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DandyLion posted:Ding Ding! Enough money can solve any legal problem. Everyone is buyable for the right price. They are playing the "How much time and money do you want to waste convicting my client of a misdemeanor?" game. This is the kind of crime that often straight up gets nolle pros'd the second the accused hires a competent attorney.
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RandomBlue posted:Now that you've argued that some slippery slope arguments are valid you now have to argue they all are. Them's the breaks. The argument that authorities tend to use censorship against marginalized groups is not a slippery slope argument, it's a recognition of history. The suggestion that such methods would be turned against out groups is a historical truism to the point that anyone trying to argue that their attempt is somehow different and will end differently should have the burden of proof in showing how this time things are going to be somehow be different than every other loving case in the history of the world previous to it.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:45
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Tibalt posted:Because it won't? Like, it won't. Packing the courts doesn't change most of the things that got Trump or Bush II elected*. yes it will. you should do a little research into voter suppression in those election. it's also not loving 2000 lmao. it will be literally impossible for republicans to win presidential elections going forward without massive voter suppression even with the ec.
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Pakled posted:Uh wasn't the plea deal guaranteeing him no jail time? What the hell is he doing? Powerful rich guys don't like to take responsibility for their actions.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:47
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1108394135038410753 Grift recognize grift.
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CuddleCryptid posted:But it would require that he admit that he went to get a handy which is just not done by good Christian men that love their wives very much. Isn’t kraft Jewish?
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skylined! posted:Isn’t kraft Jewish?
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1108394135038410753 Of course he is
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skylined! posted:Isn’t kraft Jewish? he is, and his wife is dead
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I hope we get some more Not Mad™️ Devin Nunes soon.
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https://twitter.com/behindyourback/status/1108353481289711617
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Groovelord Neato posted:yes it will. you should do a little research into voter suppression in those election. Even if I accepted your premise, the voter suppression all happens on the state level. Even when the VRA was in place, we've had voter suppression, and as insane as this may sound, Republican electoral success isn't 100% due to to voter suppression. You still have a system where 5 semi-random states effectively decide whose president. You can't see a Republican president winning in 8 years, fine. How about 16 years? 32 years? 64 years? Saying that the risk is worth it, that's fine. Saying that there is no inherent risk is foolish. Also my previous post wasn't calling you specifically a numbskull, I was doing a comedic bit about a hypothetical "Well Actually" post but realized it could be read as weird slam out of nowhere, so I apologize.
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Jealous Cow posted:I hope we get some more Not Mad™️ Devin Nunes soon. The Cow is on track to surpass him in twitter followers today, so that should provide some quality Not Mad responses
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Pardon me while I laugh my spleen out. No, Bob Kraft won't serve jail time, but he'll needlessly drag this out because he's convinced he did nothing wrong. I expect the Ginger Hammer will probably fine him a few million.
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Skex posted:The argument that authorities tend to use censorship against marginalized groups is not a slippery slope argument, it's a recognition of history. The suggestion that such methods would be turned against out groups is a historical truism to the point that anyone trying to argue that their attempt is somehow different and will end differently should have the burden of proof in showing how this time things are going to be somehow be different than every other loving case in the history of the world previous to it. It was a simple joke Skex.
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Terror Sweat posted:Meanwhile on Fox News I normally consider GG a vapid wanker but this takes some guts.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Pardon me while I laugh my spleen out. Don't do that you need your spleen for......things.
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of course there's a risk. but we won't be able to do anything without packing the court. it's not an option.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Don't do that you need your spleen for......things. kinda but the liver will take up the work after a splenectomy. You would be more susceptible to encapsulated organisms tho
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I normally consider GG a vapid wanker but this takes some guts. Greenwald has proven himself to have serious balls more than once; the issue is that he's too stupid to know what to be brave about broken clock, etc
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FizFashizzle posted:You would be more susceptible to encapsulated organisms tho to...what now? like you mean all eukaryotes?
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RandomBlue posted:It was a simple joke Skex. yeah, but people are actually suggesting government internet filters would be good. On the premise we all agree a certain list of websites should be banned. Which is true, everyone at 8chan should be in jail but I can't imagine how anyone alive on earth in 2019 would be dumb enough to think that no matter how nicely the original list is set up that even one second later that list would be restrained to "sites we all agree should be banned". Like literally no matter how much you yell "no, only ban bad things", you are gonna find the "bad things' are defined in ways that certain groups are treated more lightly than others.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1108394135038410753 I mean Trump era so whatever but we shouldn't forget how utterly despicable it is for a US president to participate in a photo op with a foreign leader 2 loving weeks before they are up for election.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:yeah, but people are actually suggesting government internet filters would be good. On the premise we all agree a certain list of websites should be banned. Which is true, everyone at 8chan should be in jail but I can't imagine how anyone alive on earth in 2019 would be dumb enough to think that no matter how nicely the original list is set up that even one second later that list would be restrained to "sites we all agree should be banned". We should be clear that at no point has a government agency been involved in banning these websites. The telecoms made the decision to block 8chan, Voat, etc. individually after conferring with each other. There is no government-controlled censorship happening.
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I take no pleasure in reporting this.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i know right? i don't get how these people get around the fact that the court IS going to strike down progressive legislation without any legitimate reason. it's like everyone slept through the past two decades. roberts gutted the VRA with absolutely no constitutional excuse. and if we had a functioning dem congress it would have bounced back immediately the current roberts court is surmountable-ish on the federal level (although i agree we should do some packin' anyway)
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