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TulliusCicero posted:Ours literally had a guy fire blanks outside and not tell anyone before they did it I forget if I mentioned this here before, but at work there's a VR/AR development push. One guy's bright idea was a full motion VR Active Shooter training module where you'd have to either hide from, run from, or fight an active shooter in a full render of our office. We had to spend significant effort to talk him out of that being our first test project. Then he decided that the problem was that it was VR and wanted to switch it to an AR module on the Hololens (which actively maps your surroundings and can built a "map" of it in real time) where you'd wear it around and after it mapped enough of the office would procedurally generate a shooter for you to run from.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:When I was a maintenance dude at as school I had to do the drills where I was supposed to walk around the school on a bright green best to check red and green cards the teachers slipped under doors to tell the police if all the kids were in the classroom. adam lanza passed by one of the classrooms because the teacher had forgotten to take down black construction paper in the door's window and likely assumed nobody was in there. it's like none of these people actually study the incidents.
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1108662634243678208?s=19 What the polar opposite of MAGA culture looks like.
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luxury handset posted:no heritage of revolution to point to Violent armed resistance (with guns) is pretty much the only reason there are still Maori.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Jesus loving Christ Here's a fun one you might not have thought about : This "active shooter training" is coming out of the education budget. Teachers are getting mock executed while paying for their own copy paper and magic markers. It's okay, "Black Dragon Systems" or "Spartan Solutions" or whoever's-cousin's-new-company-formed-minutes-after-MSD-with-the-tough-name is going to do great! We might have to cut some things from the classroom BUT the teachers who remain will know just how to kneel and be shot in the head. BTW if this goes on at my school the dudes in the execution room are going to get beat down with a chair during a "surprise attack." "You said this was supposed to be realistic, and realistically I was fighting for my life. So EN GARDE! I saw my chance and I took it. Those men were going to execute me. And they'll be okay. Eventually."
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1108662634243678208?s=19
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Jesus loving Christ. Also, edit: Holy poo poo how is her back not in constant pain? EwokEntourage posted:this seems dumb even for 2019 It's smart if your goal is to traumatize teachers so that they're more susceptible into buying the bullshit message that they should carry firearms while teaching.
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Max posted:Which is stupid because literally every workplace training video places fight as the very last resort. The central tenet of the Cult of The Gun is that the only thing to do is to stop the attacker with violence. If you choose not to stop them with violence, and you could have tried, you are guilty of malfeasance.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:You're not big on NZ history huh? i can see how if you would take the opposite meaning of my point that would make sense, yes i'll agree with you on next Opposite Day
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Rent-A-Cop posted:You're not big on NZ history huh? I'd imagine the white majority of New Zealanders - especially the rural older ones who are most likely to own guns - don't see radical Maori liberationists as their forebears, while white Americans take pride in the legacies of the thirteen colonies or the Confederate States of America.
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So is this racist, sexist or ageist? Trick question! It's all three!
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Doctor Butts posted:Jesus loving Christ. She's a dancer she is strong af and powerful
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remember when that pro-gun group ran a bunch of mock charlie hebdo scenarios and the best the armed person could do (knowing the two guys were coming) was injure one of the gunmen (and was still "gunned down"). the only time the armed people in the scenario "survived" is when they ran away.
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luxury handset posted:i can see how if you would take the opposite meaning of my point that would make sense, yes
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Point being it's possible to recognize the value of active resistance of evil without building a big dumb culture that perpetuates evil. hm, why may white new zealanders not celebrate the 'active resistance of evil' in this scenario 
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That's not exactly a pellet gun or airsoft. Pretty large pellets. Sounds incredibly dumb.
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Groovelord Neato posted:remember when that pro-gun group ran a bunch of mock charlie hebdo scenarios and the best the armed person could do (knowing the two guys were coming) was injure one of the gunmen (and was still "gunned down"). the only time the armed people in the scenario "survived" is when they ran away. Yeah, there are some actual "active shooter" trainings that are valid out there, but they mostly rely on "run the gently caress away; if you can't run, hide; if you can't hide, you're hosed, try to fight".
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It's super cool we spend all this time, money, and psychological absuse to prop up one industry that the majority of the country has no interaction with and serves no purpose other than being a hobby. And that's before you get to the massive human cost in lives.
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Mar 21, 2019 16:55
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luxury handset posted:no heritage of revolution to point to so that sad dough sacks of men can pretend that one day they too will brave the wilderness of valley forge to take down the liberal agenda This is irrelevant and very strange to think as a connection. I mean do you think the Irish Republic is a hotbed of gun nuts?
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Crain posted:I forget if I mentioned this here before, but at work there's a VR/AR development push. One guy's bright idea was a full motion VR Active Shooter training module where you'd have to either hide from, run from, or fight an active shooter in a full render of our office. I was at MWC LA several months ago and saw a demo of tech that tracks shooters via installed microphones in a school and gives the police an AR view of where they are. Literally seeing thru walls. Pretty drat depressing.
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Radish posted:It's super cool we spend all this time, money, and psychological absuse to prop up one industry that the majority of the country has no interaction with and serves no purpose other than being a hobby. And that's before you get to the massive human cost in lives. The real reason is that too many Americans desperately need the illusion that they are able to protect themselves in their home, because they have a gun.
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Grape posted:This is irrelevant and very strange to think as a connection. it's not strange at all? people fetishize the second amendment in the united states and interpret that as having the power to one day fight the federal government. this is a huge line of rhetoric in american gun fanatic culture which is absent in other nations. i shouldn't have to explain this
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Grape posted:So is this racist, sexist or ageist? It's yet another example of the extreme projection these people can't help but express. They're all paid so hard by lobbyists they cannot fathom someone who isn't.
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2019. https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1108459229982150658
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1108662634243678208?s=19 Now only outlaws will have them 
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Radish posted:It's super cool we spend all this time, money, and psychological absuse to prop up one industry that the majority of the country has no interaction with and serves no purpose other than being a hobby. And that's before you get to the massive human cost in lives.
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luxury handset posted:it's not strange at all? people fetishize the second amendment in the united states and interpret that as having the power to one day fight the federal government. this is a huge line of rhetoric in american gun fanatic culture which is absent in other nations. i shouldn't have to explain this The connection you were making is the "had a violent revolution" thing. If that's what you meant fine, but that isn't what you said. Pleads posted:It's yet another example of the extreme projection these people can't help but express. They're all paid so hard by lobbyists they cannot fathom someone who isn't. Yeah true, but I can't help but get a vibe of "how latina woman millennial make think and words???"
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JonathonSpectre posted:Here's a fun one you might not have thought about : This "active shooter training" is coming out of the education budget. Teachers are getting mock executed while paying for their own copy paper and magic markers. Yeah, this can't be discounted. These active shooter training farces are basically a grift to get government contracts. I know LEO's that retired and do this sort of consulting poo poo. It's all a big drat grift.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Now only outlaws will have them I'm thinking of taking a visit down there at one point. Maybe I'll shop for a retirement home 
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Grape posted:The connection you were making is the "had a violent revolution" thing.  i don't really care about which incorrect interpretation of my words you decided to stick to, i'm clearly talking about present tense gun nuts
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theflyingorc posted:The central tenet of the Cult of The Gun is that the only thing to do is to stop the attacker with violence. Tangentally, this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HF38H6W/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i6 is a hell of a good novella following that particular point to it's logical conclusion.
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Groovelord Neato posted:remember when that pro-gun group ran a bunch of mock charlie hebdo scenarios and the best the armed person could do (knowing the two guys were coming) was injure one of the gunmen (and was still "gunned down"). the only time the armed people in the scenario "survived" is when they ran away. All that "good guy with a gun" bullshit is movie nonsense. When the dude blasted that concert in Las Vegas from like 100 meters up, in the dark, with a loving machine gun (WHOOPS I GUESS I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT GUNS BECAUSE A REAL MACHINE GUN REQUIRES AN FFL AND AND AND BLAH BLAH DEATH CULT) I had people tell me that if someone in the crowd had just had a Glock 36 they could have saved everyone. These are mostly people who have never actually fired a gun and don't realize the level of skill it takes to actually hit something at a distance with it. They've watched so loving many movies they think that having the gun in hand and the desire to kill with it makes it automatically happen. They literally believe Roland the Gunslinger, "I do not kill with my hand, I kill with my heart." Of course they ignore the fact that Roland has trained for so loving long with those guns that he's really saying that the physical action of killing is no longer in doubt and so the only decision whether someone lives or dies is made in his heart. This doesn't happen in the real world outside of special forces and secret service and other dudes who put 50,000 rounds a year through their guns in practice. Uncle Ant Bed from Crestview, who bought his gun twelve years ago and has never shot it and owns one box of ammo so loving old it's got green moss growing on it, is not going to clear leather and take out a mass shooter. But boy oh boy does he ever like to fantasize about it. Then he could be on THE FOX NEWS and tell everyone about how much he hates nig-SOCIALISTS and Thelma from down at the Waffle House will finally say yes! BTW apropos of nothing I got to shoot with some secret service guys one time and they really were like loving Terminators, just computer-controlled machines that put the shot wherever they wanted it to go. I asked one of them how to get that good and he said, "About a thousand rounds a week, every week, for almost fifteen years."
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Jealous Cow posted:Why the gently caress would we want to give up he incumbency advantage? loving stupid rear end centrists. Nothing stupid about it - he's a conservative and sympathizes with conservatives, but recognizes the public needs a Democrat as a buffer between Trumpism and a gentler, more mainstream conservative climate. He thinks he can be that buffer. He just wants his name in the textbooks as a last hoorah before the office is lost to Republicans forever.
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VideoGameVet posted:That's not exactly a pellet gun or airsoft. Pretty large pellets. i don't think that's the gun they used, though, and that picture is from a university training thing. the larger pellets look like they'd be softer?? i don't know much about airsoft stuff, but from the article: "The plastic pellets they used are 4.6 mm in diameter — slightly larger than a standard BB."
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JonathonSpectre posted:BTW apropos of nothing I got to shoot with some secret service guys one time and they really were like loving Terminators, just computer-controlled machines that put the shot wherever they wanted it to go. I asked one of them how to get that good and he said, "About a thousand rounds a week, every week, for almost fifteen years." yeah my dad was leo and thinks guns should be totally banned but whenever they had to go to the range he'd hit every shot. as a kid i remembered he'd bring home the paper dummy for me.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Jesus loving Christ "There is a shooter, what should we do?!" "I dunno, but I tell you what, if they try to execute me then I am going to be *great* at that part"
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Grape posted:This is irrelevant and very strange to think as a connection. I confused Republic of Ireland for the IRA, because the gun nuts in Northern Ireland pretty much can build their own guns from pipes, box tubes, and nails, and make rocket launcher and mortars from coffee cans and empty canisters.
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Regulations are bad! Free market! Capitalism!! https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1108763111811616775
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CuddleCryptid posted:"There is a shooter, what should we do?!" Ya uhhh what does this actually do? Oh nothing? Cool, got it
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Kale posted:Imagine having friends and comrades and being able to see past the petty political bullshit at the end of the day to basic humanity. Imagine the POTUS was like that. I love how super mad much of USPOL is that there are people that would defend a literal dead guy that they knew and probably had some good times with despite being on opposite sides of the party aisle. I have friends who never came back from Iraq and/or came back mangled and broken. I wonder why people such as myself regard McCain as a monster+do not respect anyone sheltered/priveleged/selfish/naive enough to consider that warmonger a "friend"? He was an evil man who left the world a far worse place than he found it. He sent my friends off to be butchered in the name of corporate profits.
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