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KDdidit posted:Help me out with my cynicism and the mechanics of this. Mechanically, that's the proposal to get support for a ConCon so that he can pass this tax plan? Cynically, depending on the wording, if the ConCon works then they can change the tax rates after that with a majority then? If so is there any way all those tax brackets aren't back over 5% in a few years after that? Not that Illinois doesn't need the money. I mean "can raises taxes at an indeterminate point in the future" is always a possibility don't hard-code this poo poo in the constitution either
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Just remove the hard coded flat tax.
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Mar 7, 2019 23:23
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Tax retirement income for gently caress sake.
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Dexo posted:Just remove the hard coded flat tax. This.
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Chicago Tribune: Lori Lightfoot picks up endorsement from businessman Willie Wilson in mayor's race. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-mayors-race-willie-wilson-endorsement-20190308-story.html Chicago politics are so weird
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ArgaWarga posted:Chicago Tribune: Lori Lightfoot picks up endorsement from businessman Willie Wilson in mayor's race. My guess would be she had to promise Wilson something if she's elected. I can't figure out why else he would do it. She desperately needs more votes from the African-American parts of the city, and she probably thinks this is a good way to get them. I don't agree with it, but I'm not sure if it's really going to have any sway on my vote yet.
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Bird in a Blender posted:My guess would be she had to promise Wilson something if she's elected. I can't figure out why else he would do it. She desperately needs more votes from the African-American parts of the city, and she probably thinks this is a good way to get them. I don't agree with it, but I'm not sure if it's really going to have any sway on my vote yet. Both candidates asked for his endorsement and Wilson put out calls on social media asking his supporters who he should choose. I'm sure there's much more to it than that (lol Chicago) but I didn't see a single comment asking him to endorse Preckwinkle. Based on the polls, I don't think Lightfoot desperately needs anything right now, but we all lived through 2016 so who knows?
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The rally to “take back Illinois” was held today. Around 1,300 people showed up for it. They had a giant flag as the backdrop. I am honestly surprised the most that my sister and brother in law did not go because they have both fallen into the chud valley. Apparently, there was a Pokemon raid happening that they chose to go to instead.  
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Are they able to clearly articulate to what point in the state's history they want to restore things to?
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xzzy posted:Are they able to clearly articulate to what point in the state's history they want to restore things to? what day were the black codes overturned? one day before that.
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brugroffil posted:JB out with his flat tax proposal Pretty harsh marriage penalty for high earners.
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baquerd posted:Pretty harsh marriage penalty for high earners. How's the move to Indiana working out for you?
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CascadeBeta posted:How's the move to Indiana working out for you? Gotta find the right place. That aside, it will be interesting to see what goes down here with regards to the constitutional amendment. I wonder how many alterations and complexities will get thrown in, or if it could ever possibly look like a simple repeal of the flat tax limitation.
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So is there any progress on marijuana legalization? JB got up and talked about wanting to legalize sports gambling too but so far he's just been all talk on this stuff.
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xzzy posted:Are they able to clearly articulate to what point in the state's history they want to restore things to? As was said above, when rural white people ruled the roost and could sneer at the minorities and urban people while maintaining their power structure. I am going to keep posting downstate Illinois stuff like this. We have 3 new state reps in the area that have decided that they are going to get their names out there as much as possible. Also, I have never witnessed the local chud population up in arms as much as since Priztker got elected. I am thinking that they are pissed about how the left went after Trump that they need to do the same with the state stuff.
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baquerd posted:Gotta find the right place. I can understand why you haven't found the right place yet, this whole thing with Rauner losing was a surprise to us all so you likely got started late.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:As was said above, when rural white people ruled the roost and could sneer at the minorities and urban people while maintaining their power structure. Yeah, everyone in Effingham is waiting for Priztker to raise their taxes, take their guns, and abort every baby. Good thing Effingham voted to be a sanctuary city for guns and the unborn. God I hate this loving town.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:As was said above, when rural white people ruled the roost and could sneer at the minorities and urban people while maintaining their power structure. Did this time ever exist? Farmers have been getting screwed since before the Civil War.
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The X-man cometh posted:Did this time ever exist? Farmers have been getting screwed since before the Civil War. Depends on the farmer. Landed gentry like Jefferson loved the idea of the yeoman farmer and considered himself a bit of one
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The X-man cometh posted:Did this time ever exist? Farmers have been getting screwed since before the Civil War. Yeah, they have always been screwed but in a previous time, population was more spread out so they felt like they had more say in their being screwed over.
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baquerd posted:Gotta find the right place.
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Niwrad posted:Tax retirement income for gently caress sake. Jesus christ yes.
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e: never mind, answered elsewhere
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Chuy endorsed Lightfoot.
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What should I know about the Treasurer race? Is there a clear correct choice here?
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This is the voter guide that has been getting shared around among people whose opinions I trust, and I've found it to be pretty on-the-nose as well. Girl, I guess: Progressive Voter Guide for Chicago 2019 + Runoffs
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Chuu posted:What should I know about the Treasurer race? Is there a clear correct choice here?
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UberNils posted:This is the voter guide that has been getting shared around among people whose opinions I trust, and I've found it to be pretty on-the-nose as well. I'd be curious to know what they specifically think of Lightfoot vs. Periwinkle. I'm assuming that they'd still endorse Periwinkle because of how much weight they put on Police issues, but almost every positive they attribute to Periwinkle is strategic and no long really a concern in a race of two candidates. EDIT: Found their opinion about Lightfoot vs. Periwinkle. Look like Lightfoot's Police record in their eyes is completely disqualifying. While I can totally understand that point of view, I believe strongly enough that unchaining Chicago from Machine Politics is critical for the future, and I'd rather gamble on Lightfoot pushing in that direction and swallow her terrible record on Police Brutality rather than Periwinkle's guarantee of the status quo. Put strategically, I believe the worst outcome of voting for Lightfoot and being wrong is basically continuation of the status quo. And voting for Periwinkle basically guarantees that. Chuu fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Mar 24, 2019 |
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Chuu posted:I'd be curious to know what they specifically think of Lightfoot vs. Periwinkle. I'm assuming that they'd still endorse Periwinkle because of how much weight they put on Police issues, but almost every positive they attribute to Periwinkle is strategic and no long really a concern in a race of two candidates. i think they'd be thrilled that one of their endorsements (with reservations) made the runoff against someone they called a wolf in sheep's clothing especially when it looked like lightfoot v daley a few weeks ago
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Chuu posted:I'd be curious to know what they specifically think of Lightfoot vs. Periwinkle. I'm assuming that they'd still endorse Periwinkle because of how much weight they put on Police issues, but almost every positive they attribute to Periwinkle is strategic and no long really a concern in a race of two candidates. Lightfoot is taking money from Rahm’s lawyer, got endorsed by the right-wing aldermen, is taking money from an anonymous organization, and flip flopped on the gang database. I really don’t think Lightfoot is going to represent a change- I think she’s going to continue business as usual. Also, I think police issues are the issue. If the Laquan McDonald murder didn’t happen (or he was successful in covering it up) Rahm would be running.
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That's the thing. If you think policing is the only issue, Lightfoot is completely in the wrong. But if you care about schools, handouts to corporations and developers, or tax equity, then she's far better than Preckwinkle.
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The X-man cometh posted:That's the thing. If you think policing is the only issue, Lightfoot is completely in the wrong. But if you care about schools, handouts to corporations and developers, or tax equity, then she's far better than Preckwinkle. The X-man cometh posted:That's the thing. If you think policing is the only issue, Lightfoot is completely in the wrong. But if you care about schools, handouts to corporations and developers, or tax equity, then she's far better than Preckwinkle. Yeah, but what about Periwinkle?
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Periwinkle is far inferior to lavender or rose.
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Niwrad posted:So is there any progress on marijuana legalization? JB got up and talked about wanting to legalize sports gambling too but so far he's just been all talk on this stuff. Not emptyquoting
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The X-man cometh posted:That's the thing. If you think policing is the only issue, Lightfoot is completely in the wrong. But if you care about schools, handouts to corporations and developers, or tax equity, then she's far better than Preckwinkle. I'm similarly skeptical of her on corporate handouts if she was supporting Amanda Yu Dietrich for alderman (she lives in that ward). Even if Carlos Ramirez-Rosa is an outspoken Preckwinkle supporter, Dietrich was backed by Rahm and Fishman.
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Well the Jussie thing sure got a lot more interesting and a lot more political.
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Well he forfeited his bond so it's the same old story, you can get out of anything if you pay enough money.
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xzzy posted:Well he forfeited his bond so it's the same old story, you can get out of anything if you pay enough money. $625 bucks per felony charge seems like a pretty good deal. Hell I could probably afford a couple of them if that were the standard rate.
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