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Solice Kirsk posted:My guess would be spite on the guy I worked with. His body sat in a tub for days in an Arizona summer. I'm assuming he was basically a soup. Oddly enough another guy that worked there who I actually was sort of friends with blew his brains out on a camping trip with a bunch of his friends and his wife. Just walked out into the woods on the second day and shot himself. Must be a thing out in Arizona to make your suicide as devastating as possible to loved ones. That's actually intriguing to me. I'm not an expert in the slightest, but I always thought that most suicides involve a pervasive sense of loneliness and powerlessness. Killing yourself while you're on a trip with your wife (whom you presumably love) and people that you're good enough friends with to go camping with, that strikes me as being strange.
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Yeah, he was best friends with one of my friends out there. He killed himself like two days after one of my best friends died of an OD, so we were talking about losing our best friends together. My buddy didn't go into much more detail than what I told you though, so I have no idea what else was going on with the dude at the time.
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I can't speak for anyone else obviously, but when I had extreme suicidal idealization my goal if I had ever worked up the gumption to go through with it was to make it as painless for whoever found me as possible while also giving my loved ones closure that I was definitely dead and hadn't just vanished in the night to start somewhere else. Luckily I was pushed and got help so now I'm just regular super depressed and not suicidal depressed! 
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Phlegmish posted:That's actually intriguing to me. I'm not an expert in the slightest, but I always thought that most suicides involve a pervasive sense of loneliness and powerlessness. Killing yourself while you're on a trip with your wife (whom you presumably love) and people that you're good enough friends with to go camping with, that strikes me as being strange. Think about it this way: have you ever been alone in a crowded room?
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:I feel weird basically banning my kid from content that she likes, especially as my grounds are mostly aesthetic. Don’t feel bad. Since YouTube isn’t going away anytime soon (unfortunately, IMO), it’s important that they recognize that you’re in charge of the content they consume. Otherwise, you end up with a kid running around t-posing, yelling “YEET” while dabbing, and begging for “merch” from idiots like the Paul brothers.
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Blue Moonlight posted:Don’t feel bad. Since YouTube isn’t going away anytime soon (unfortunately, IMO), it’s important that they recognize that you’re in charge of the content they consume. yes those drat kids nowadays, not like when *I* was young, no siree kids running into adult content on youtube is bad but loving t-posing isn't the problem
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Solice Kirsk posted:The hell is T-posting? Posing like a video game character in default pose, arms out to the side https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89_EuoS_y5k it's dumb but it's like any other fad from the entire existence of humankind
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I remember playing Power Rangers and imagining sick flips and breakdance moves while in reality hopping off stairs, chopping my arms through the air. What I'm saying is kids are loving goobers.
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Wasabi the J posted:I remember playing Power Rangers and imagining sick flips and breakdance moves while in reality hopping off stairs, chopping my arms through the air.
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Remember the Super Naturals, those scary ghost and monster toys with the holograms inside? Loved that poo poo. They never told me to kill for the glory of the white race and Donald Trump like modern youth culture does, fortunately.
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:Remember the Super Naturals, those scary ghost and monster toys with the holograms inside? Loved that poo poo. They never told me to kill for the glory of the white race and Donald Trump like modern youth culture does, fortunately.
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Solice Kirsk posted:The hell is T-posting? The “what the heck is a pokey-man?” bit doesn’t really work in a text-based converaation.
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:Remember the Super Naturals, those scary ghost and monster toys with the holograms inside? Loved that poo poo. They never told me to kill for the glory of the white race and Donald Trump like modern youth culture does, fortunately. Super Naturals did rule. So did Visionaries. There should have been more hologram themed toys when I was a kid.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...9662_story.html If you drive through Alexandria VA with any frequency, you probably know about this local lore. I grew up here and remember hearing the story. Mercury Ballistic has a new favorite as of 02:30 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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I love that poo poo. Good catch.
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Whats that link that removes paywalls
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Milo and POTUS posted:Whats that link that removes paywalls outline.com
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Milo and POTUS posted:Whats that link that removes paywalls right click -> open in incognito window
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quite stretched out posted:right click -> open in incognito window Some places are actually catching wise to this. 
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Milo and POTUS posted:Open in super incognito mode Is this when you wear a mask and gloves while using your computer?
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Phlegmish posted:That's actually intriguing to me. I'm not an expert in the slightest, but I always thought that most suicides involve a pervasive sense of loneliness and powerlessness. Killing yourself while you're on a trip with your wife (whom you presumably love) and people that you're good enough friends with to go camping with, that strikes me as being strange. My brother's wife's father killed himself super suddenly. He'd just bought a ton of snacks for a weekend party with his friends that he was excited about and right before he was cooking something on the stove. Then he just up and went outside and blew his head off with a shotgun at like 9pm. His wife was downstairs, had no idea until she heard the shot. Pasta boiling over and everything. It still baffles me. Why then? Why in the middle of things? I think about it a lot. How he just...walked away from everything and ended it. Without a word, without even flipping the stove off. It's creepy how he just decided it was over.
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empty sea posted:My brother's wife's father killed himself super suddenly. He'd just bought a ton of snacks for a weekend party with his friends that he was excited about and right before he was cooking something on the stove. Then he just up and went outside and blew his head off with a shotgun at like 9pm. His wife was downstairs, had no idea until she heard the shot. Pasta boiling over and everything. Not to be morbid, but I kinda get that. I have my worst bouts of depression when life seems like nothing more than endless tasks until death, and then something in there says "do we have to do the exhausting bit first?" I go there all the time when cooking, cutting my nails, cleaning the floor, doing laundry, things like that. Never enough to do anything, but during the worst parts of my struggles it gets pretty loud. And the only indication my wife would ever have that I was in a bad place was whether I whistled a jaunty tune while making dinner or not. Obviously an individual perspective and the reasonings may be completely different but, while creepy and terrifying as an act, it makes far too much sense to me.
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empty sea posted:My brother's wife's father killed himself super suddenly. He'd just bought a ton of snacks for a weekend party with his friends that he was excited about and right before he was cooking something on the stove. Then he just up and went outside and blew his head off with a shotgun at like 9pm. His wife was downstairs, had no idea until she heard the shot. Pasta boiling over and everything. Yeah, I kinda get that. The impulsive thoughts tend to strike when I'm in the middle of something and feeling a bit overwhelmed for whatever reason; just this all consuming sense of "I can't carry on, I can't deal with looking down the barrel of forever". This is one reason why suicidal people absolutely should not keep guns in the house, honestly. For every person who carefully plans there's someone else who, in the wrong moment, with the wrong tools to hand, just slides over the edge. I think the thing is about suicidality is that there are a number of different types, and different levels of impulsiveness. You can be suicidal because of straight depression, you can have an anxiety component, it can be very self-contained, it can be completely attached to an external pressure. People can go through a long process of planning, putting their affairs in order etc. or they can just say "gently caress it" and jump off a bridge on impulse. What often gets left out of people's understanding of suicidality is the influence of intrusive thoughts or imagery that can literally flip the switch from one minute to the next. Brains are very strange and complicated things.
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That's how it was with Hunter S. Thompson.quote:No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun — for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your age. Relax — This won't hurt. His son, daughter-in-law, and grandson were all visiting for the weekend. He was on the phone with his wife, asked her to come home to help him write a column for ESPN, then put the receiver down and simply shot himself right there.
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I believe the acute existence of suicidal thoughts are also on display with the rate of gun suicides. Getting an isolated thought like ‘do I want to keep doing this’ doesn’t seem to be super rare. If these feelings are strong enough, a gun around makes a 10 second decision into a permanent one, unlike other methods that take more effort and give you time to think about what you’re doing. It comes up occasionally here, but it’s like the guy who survived a suicide attempt as described in the documentary, The Bridge. The minute he went ‘over the wire’ he immediately regretted his decision and realized there was no problem he had that he couldn’t fix, except for the one he just made. Grim stuff, but I think it needs to be talked about more. People need to realize kind of temptation they may be inadvertently inviting into their home when they decide to own a gun
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Due to my family's history with poor mental health my parents suicide-proofed our home long before I was born. If I wanted to off myself I'd have to work at it - use the kitchen knives (ow), figure out how to overdose on pills (which ones?) and so on. I could commit suicide but not on impulse, which has been a literal life saver. If you have guns, keep them unloaded and the ammo locked up. Make a suicidal person have to work for it, which will buy time for them to reconsider or be found before it's too late.
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Dr.Caligari posted:I believe the acute existence of suicidal thoughts are also on display with the rate of gun suicides. Getting an isolated thought like ‘do I want to keep doing this’ doesn’t seem to be super rare. If these feelings are strong enough, a gun around makes a 10 second decision into a permanent one, unlike other methods that take more effort and give you time to think about what you’re doing. I'm glad to live somewhere where handguns are absolutely verboten and the time it takes to a) unlock the gun cabinet, b) load a rifle or shotgun and c) work out how the gently caress to shoot yourself in the head with it adds a certain in built thinking gap into the process (plus I don't personally have a gun license to keep them on the property anyway; when I lived with someone who did I ended up asking them to keep their firearms at the range for precisely this reason.) I would never, ever, ever have a handgun in the house even if I could for the simple reason that it makes it too easy. I can think of at least two people I know who would definitely be dead if that had been an available option, instead of being found and saved. I think that if you or someone in your household is dealing with ideations, it's an extremely good idea to ask yourself a) should I have this weapon at all, and b) is it effectively secured enough to slow down impulsive actions.
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Dr.Caligari posted:I believe the acute existence of suicidal thoughts are also on display with the rate of gun suicides. Getting an isolated thought like ‘do I want to keep doing this’ doesn’t seem to be super rare. If these feelings are strong enough, a gun around makes a 10 second decision into a permanent one, unlike other methods that take more effort and give you time to think about what you’re doing. I have several handguns. It would take me minutes to get them ready to shoot. Unlock the cabinet after fiding the hidden key, unpack the gun, unpack the ammo/find the ammo, load, get over the training shooters here have that makes it pretty hard to aim at your own head, wonder if I really want to kill myself in my own house... A knife in the kitchen would be much quicker. Strangely, I have not been tempted by my kitchenware either.
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You're more likely to feel the pain of a kitchen knife, or be recoverable than if you shoot yourself in the head. You can get help after the attempt, but before you die. Also, should you or someone you know (especially a child) want to off themselves with your guns, they only need knowledge of the key's location. And suicidal people feel that way several times, frequently. Time 1- unlock the cabinet, lose the will and put the gun on the table for Time 2- load the gun, decide not to kill yourself in your living room until Time 3- realize you could do it somewhere easier to clean and then it's done.
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lizard_phunk posted:I have several handguns. It would take me minutes to get them ready to shoot. Unlock the cabinet after fiding the hidden key, unpack the gun, unpack the ammo/find the ammo, load, get over the training shooters here have that makes it pretty hard to aim at your own head, wonder if I really want to kill myself in my own house... To take this already grim conversation to an even grimmer place, if you've not been tempted by your kitchenware you've probably not (yet) experienced the kind of impulsiveness under discussion. The main difference is, knives are a lot more survivable using culturally common suicide methods in the West. Overcoming the urge not to shoot yourself in the head is really no different to overcoming the natural impulse not to throw yourself off a building, except you usually have to walk a bit to find a suitable building or bridge. Edit: also, yeah, there's a kind of brinkmanship people go through with themselves. There's a good reason that you are advised to remove temptations from the house when you or someone you live with is experiencing suicidal ideation. After someone's made an attempt, one of the first things you do is go round their house and remove alcohol, pills etc. before they come home, because they remain intensely vulnerable. And there's a reason that razor blades, knives etc are tightly controlled in secure units. Like, it might seem maybe TOO obvious that a big part of suicide prevention is making suicide take longer and be more difficult, but it genuinely works. Just like suicide nets on bridges genuinely work too. small ghost has a new favorite as of 16:47 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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lizard_phunk posted:I have several handguns. It would take me minutes to get them ready to shoot. Unlock the cabinet after fiding the hidden key, unpack the gun, unpack the ammo/find the ammo, load, get over the training shooters here have that makes it pretty hard to aim at your own head, wonder if I really want to kill myself in my own house... This is really true. I've heard (maybe apocryphal) that Caesar wouldn't be around knives because he was afraid he'd impulsively kill himself with one. (spoiler alert: he was bad at avoiding knives)
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Werong Bustope posted:To take this already grim conversation to an even grimmer place, if you've not been tempted by your kitchenware you've probably not (yet) experienced the kind of impulsiveness under discussion. When it comes to self-harm, it's effectively impossible to get rid of everything that you can use. I don't, but my ex did. She would stick corkboard pins in her arms if the urge hit when she was at work.
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chitoryu12 posted:When it comes to self-harm, it's effectively impossible to get rid of everything that you can use. I don't, but my ex did. She would stick corkboard pins in her arms if the urge hit when she was at work. Oh yeah, for sure. It's loving difficult to off yourself with a pin though. People still self harm in secure units, but if they manage to get hold of razors they die.
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An actual decision from the 9th Circuit. Context: Cops execute a search warrant and seize $275,000 in cash and rare coins from the subject. Cops then declare only $50,000 cash on the inventory list, the remainder mysteriously disappears. quote:"We need not—and do not—decide whether the City Officers violated the Constitution. At the time of the incident, there was no clearly established law holding that officers violate the Fourth or Fourteenth Amendment when they steal property that is seized pursuant to a warrant. For that reason, the City Officers are entitled to qualified immunity. " http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2019/03/20/17-16756.pdf The Supreme Court needs to drag the entire doctrine of qualified immunity out behind the shed and bash its head in with a brick.
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