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This episode's got some stuff in it that was real good, but it took too long to get to and some of the scenes made no goddamn sense where they fit in the final cut. I liked what they were trying to do but it felt miserably paced.
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I liked the first episode this season, but that one was really just spinning it's wheels. Ian "It's just tits and dragons" Mcshane is there until the money dries up I assume.
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Mar 19, 2019 21:57
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Last season was slow as poo poo too but it was more interesting and added good things. This was...what 12 pages and a backstory we didn't need?
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Mar 19, 2019 22:13
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The scenes where they were calling out Media were so disappointing because you know Gillian Anderson ain't gonna be there 
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Mar 19, 2019 22:35
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Willeh posted:The scenes where they were calling out Media were so disappointing because you know Gillian Anderson ain't gonna be there I was so hoping for a Czernobog hammer out of nowhere in that scene...
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Mar 19, 2019 23:44
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I liked this episode. There was a bit to process from the last episode. Things happened, they might not feel relevant to book readers or whatever but there were a lot of character building moments. I'm sure shadow's backstory will matter later on. Looking forward to seeing what happens with the zorya sisters- does one of the others take the dead one's place or is a new god born?
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Mar 20, 2019 00:54
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Open Source Idiom posted:You'd think that if Gaiman didn't like Lucifer he'd not guest star in an episode, yeah? Oh he probably likes the show just fine. It's pretty fun as far as network shows go. It's just so obviously not directly based on anything he personally wrote.
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Mar 20, 2019 02:41
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This version of Shadow makes even more sense with the back story than the book version. In the book, and in the TV show until now, he's just been a blank slate follower who lost everything and was supposed to have nothing distracting him from finding a new belief in Wednesday. But in the TV version now, hes all that plus someone who will fight for the underdog and hates bullies. The old gods are underdogs so he's solidly in their corner until the end of time, basically. The new gods will never turn him.
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Mar 20, 2019 07:06
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Yeah, some people are saying they didn't like the back story parts but I thought they added some much needed characterisation to shadow. It was a decent episode imo
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Mar 20, 2019 08:00
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precision posted:Oh he probably likes the show just fine. It's pretty fun as far as network shows go. It's just so obviously not directly based on anything he personally wrote. The character was created by Gaiman in Sandman, but I don't think he had much involvement with the Lucifer comic, that was written by Mike Carey.
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Mar 20, 2019 08:56
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And that comic is hands down better than anything Gaiman's ever written. I'll absolutely fight for that statement.
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Mar 20, 2019 11:27
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END ME SCOOB posted:And that comic is hands down better than anything Gaiman's ever written. I'll absolutely fight for that statement. I'll fight you!!! I really liked the Lucifer comics but boy howdy did they have some issues with coherence as it goes on. Which isn't to say Gaiman's stuff isn't without it's own issues but I'll still fuckin fight you. That being said the fuckin TV show is a mess and while it's campy fun, it's also got a bunch of baggage from being sexist trash. But the biggest crime is that it's a dumb cop procedural. Really I just kinda wish American Gods was... better? Like it's certainly got an aesthetic and it's neat, but it's only vaguely similar to the novel. That isn't necessarily bad but this feels kinda directionless. I might be misremembering, but didn't the Men In Black types not realize who/what they are or who/what Wednesday and World are? I was pretty sure that was an explicit point in the novel, that some of the New Gods and their henchmen weren't entirely self-aware. Also Emily Browning is basically the perfect Laura Moon.
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Mar 20, 2019 13:37
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Shabadu posted:This episode's got some stuff in it that was real good, but it took too long to get to and some of the scenes made no goddamn sense where they fit in the final cut. I liked what they were trying to do but it felt miserably paced. This. I'm the guy that watched the flashbacks in double speed. Not only was the pace slow, but there were entire sequences without value changes. Spinning wheels. I've enjoyed the slow ride, but this was the first episode that felt like it was dragging to me.
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Mar 20, 2019 14:19
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Willeh posted:The scenes where they were calling out Media were so disappointing because you know Gillian Anderson ain't gonna be there What happened to Media again in season 1 to make her go into hiding?
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Mar 20, 2019 14:25
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BexGu posted:What happened to Media again in season 1 to make her go into hiding? Gillian Anderson left the show. She was recast, so they made it part of the story to explain the change.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:29
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END ME SCOOB posted:And that comic is hands down better than anything Gaiman's ever written. I'll absolutely fight for that statement. It's as good and more focused because it doesn't have Gaiman's meandering bullshit, but it never would have existed without Sandaman paving the way.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:40
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BexGu posted:What happened to Media again in season 1 to make her go into hiding? As noted in the other reply, Gillian Anderson left the show (because why be in a show if it isn't going to be Bryan Fuller photographing her in beautiful locations?) but the storyline reason is that Wednesday inspiring Easter and then just battering the poo poo out of Mr. World with a single blow scared the gently caress out of her, as she thought Mr. World was unstoppable, so she's gone into hiding to figure out her next move.
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Mar 20, 2019 22:37
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rapeface posted:It's as good and more focused because it doesn't have Gaiman's meandering bullshit, but it never would have existed without Sandaman paving the way. Oh, I won't deny that. I just think Carey took the concept and went into whole other realms than Neil ever could.
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Mar 21, 2019 00:46
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I think what pisses me off is how they’ve ham handedly handled the lack of Chenoweth and Anderson. Reversing Ostara’s killing of all the crops makes NO sense. In the book, Ostara only even has one more appearance much much later on. Just reversing a giant cliffhanger plot point is SLOPPY. And the drawn out Tech Boy scene was just... long... as someone said here prior, we know she’s not showing.
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Mar 21, 2019 02:23
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I was wondering what happened to that "all the plants died" thing. They just moved past it without even saying anything. When I saw that guy on the golf course, I thought they were finally covering it, and it was going to be his perspective of when all the plants died. Instead they just completely ignored it.
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Mar 21, 2019 05:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpBjph1T3Ls remembering this incredible piece of television
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Mar 21, 2019 10:56
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Cojawfee posted:I was wondering what happened to that "all the plants died" thing. They just moved past it without even saying anything. When I saw that guy on the golf course, I thought they were finally covering it, and it was going to be his perspective of when all the plants died. Instead they just completely ignored it. There is a travelling montage in episode one that shows the plants dying, and later in the episode there was a short mention in a newsreport about a blight going on (can't remember the exact wording). But given the speed the plants have been shown dying at, I would think it would be affecting most of the US by now.
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Mar 21, 2019 11:05
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Well, that was something.
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Mar 24, 2019 13:22
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"How the gently caress is that an upgrade?" - the entire audience
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Mar 24, 2019 17:18
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Good use of Geronimo's Cadillac.
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Mar 24, 2019 18:22
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Barry Convex posted:"How the gently caress is that an upgrade?" - the entire audience Yeah that was almost word for word my thoughts as well.
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I don't know man, if this show is going to keep moving at a glacial pace, it might be better to just wait until the season is over and binge it. Also: The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > American Gods: "How the gently caress is that an upgrade?!"
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Mar 25, 2019 06:34
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He actually sounded like McShane when he went in the store
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Mar 25, 2019 07:31
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Again, the first season had glacial pacing too, how is this news
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Mar 25, 2019 10:07
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In the interest of positivity, I'll say I really enjoyed the hapless adventures of the world's unluckiest leprechaun. 
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Mar 25, 2019 12:36
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I dunno, that episode just worked for me. New Media was actually pretty fun, Shadow did a great Wednesday impression, Crispin Glover continues to be great, I was entertained. I'm totally fine with this season so far.
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TV is like bathing. Most shows are your quick morning shower - it gets the job done, and is enjoyable, but ultimately forgettable and formulaic. This show is the two-hour bath with bubbles, candles, and your favorite music. It won't serve the same purpose (get your hair & body clean/tell a simple story in a straightforward manner), the whole point is to be immersed in the experience. I admit it's not for everybody, but I love it. I love that the showrunners (past and present) give so much attention to every frame of the show, I love the way they've captured the weirdness without making it look stupid, I love that the minor characters are now fleshed out in ways I couldn't have dreamed of when reading the book. I love that we get the comedy of luckless Sweeney (omg so perfect) against the horror of Laura's disintegration, and the WTF creepiness of Argus and the douchiness of Tech and the romance of Salim & the Djinn and just so many genres all coming together. And Ian loving McShane. Gods drat do I love me some Ian loving McShane. Dedicating these deaths to Ostara, giving a car a Viking funeral, "you look at me like I hosed your mother" oh holy hell, he's the gift that keeps on giving. So yeah, I probably have terrible taste in entertainment, but I'm all in for this.
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April posted:TV is like bathing. Goons are bad at it. 
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Mar 25, 2019 13:46
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Did they really need to introduce a New Character and immediately kill him off ten minutes later again? Also lol New Media shows up, rattles off some Instagram jargon, then gets hosed by mech tentacles. This show is a mess.
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Mar 25, 2019 20:08
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New Media represents everything wrong with social media and I love her for it. I think she's probably more loathsome than Tech Boy.
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Mar 25, 2019 23:37
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I liked New Media based on this one episode. It's hard to follow up S1 Gillian Anderson but if they give her more than "views! clicks! bandwidth!" to work with she could be great.
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Mar 26, 2019 00:02
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It felt like an old person who was trying to use young person words. I don't know if that was what they were going for with an old(ish) god turning into a new god.
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Mar 26, 2019 00:11
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New media sucks, but only by comparison. Show is good but I wish it was even more meandering and brought back the Somewhere in America bits from season 1 that had no relevance to the main plot.
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Hakkesshu posted:New media sucks, but only by comparison. Show is good but I wish it was even more meandering and brought back the Somewhere in America bits from season 1 that had no relevance to the main plot. The little side stories is what Gaiman might be best at so it's surprising that people in this very thread don't like them
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