BREXIT DAY

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The Dipshit: Dec 21, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

Raskolnikov38 posted:

its quite simple:

1. by the 29th of march, May must tell the EU if the UK brexit'ing with or without her deal or abandoning the effort completely
2. to determine this, May must get her deal through the commons (which she can't)
3. if May's deal cannot be passed then a bill must be passed changing the british legal brexit date from the 29th to the 12th of april
4. if May passes the date change, the UK does no deal brexit on the 12
5. if May fails to pass any of the above no deal brexit happens on the 29th

Thank you. So the MPs must actively DO something to push the brexit past the 29th. Of which they have... 3 days?

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

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Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Nebakenezzer posted:

No I was just joking dude

That or "hostility to airships" are deal breakers

Otherwise you might like it over here, but we have our own problems, I'm sure you don't, as the British say, want to go from the frying pan into the saucepan

i've been extremely pro rigid airship in the doomsday economics thread

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:00

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

quote:

This Government will not revoke Article 50. We will honour the result of the 2016 referendum and work with Parliament to deliver a deal that ensures we leave the European Union.

It remains the Government’s firm policy not to revoke Article 50. We will honour the outcome of the 2016 referendum and work to deliver an exit which benefits everyone, whether they voted to Leave or to Remain.

Revoking Article 50, and thereby remaining in the European Union, would undermine both our democracy and the trust that millions of voters have placed in Government.

The Government acknowledges the considerable number of people who have signed this petition. However, close to three quarters of the electorate took part in the 2016 referendum, trusting that the result would be respected. This Government wrote to every household prior to the referendum, promising that the outcome of the referendum would be implemented. 17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed at UK Government.

British people cast their votes once again in the 2017 General Election where over 80% of those who voted, voted for parties, including the Opposition, who committed in their manifestos to upholding the result of the referendum.

This Government stands by this commitment.

Revoking Article 50 would break the promises made by Government to the British people, disrespect the clear instruction from a democratic vote, and in turn, reduce confidence in our democracy. As the Prime Minister has said, failing to deliver Brexit would cause “potentially irreparable damage to public trust”, and it is imperative that people can trust their Government to respect their votes and deliver the best outcome for them.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:00

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Raskolnikov38 posted:

its quite simple:

1. by the 29th of march, May must tell the EU if the UK brexit'ing with or without her deal or abandoning the effort completely
2. to determine this, May must get her deal through the commons (which she can't)
3. if May's deal cannot be passed then a bill must be passed changing the british legal brexit date from the 29th to the 12th of april
4. if May passes the date change, the UK does no deal brexit on the 12
5. if May fails to pass any of the above no deal brexit happens on the 29th

no

the 1st bit of the extension is not tied to anything, it's on the EU's end and it happened. May could fail to pass it which would be incredibly funny but really it only fucks up parliament

By the 12th of April, the UK needs to decide if it will capitulate to treacherous europeans

if it does, the UK leaves the EU in May (it will not)
if it doesn't, UK also needs to decide whether it will hold euro parliament elections

if it does, it can ask for a long extension and we'll either have an election or may will stop replying to her texts for as long as it takes
if it doesn't, UK catches fire on april 12th

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:01

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

If we had longer I'd be cheering for someone to sue the EU and rule that article 50 is void if you gently caress your exit bill

hellworld has failed us on this, truly the funniest outcome

Shear Modulus posted:

why does labour have people in the house of lords

lords has the same parties and the pm tells the queen who to give lifetime appointments to, so it's your go-to bribe payment for your mates and anyone too poo poo to win elections but still useful

the ones who get it because great granddad did a genocide are elected from a pool of everyone who's great granddad did a genocide and there arent many of them (allowed to be in lords, sorry, there's loads of post-genocidal failsons)

then there are some priests and nobody gives a gently caress what they think

Spangly A has issued a correction as of 23:07 on Mar 26, 2019

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:03

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

Shear Modulus posted:

why does labour have people in the house of lords

They're working lords.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:03

Best Bi Geek Squid: Mar 25, 2016

eyyy c'mon! I'm lordin ova hea!

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:36

Stoatbringer: Sep 15, 2004; naw, you love it you little ho-bot

gradenko_2000 posted:

and it is imperative that people can trust their Government to respect their votes and deliver the best outcome for them.

What if revoking it is the best outcome?

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:39

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Stoatbringer posted:

What if revoking it is the best outcome?

WHAT IF

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:49

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

Hows the brexit coming along

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:51

Renfield: Feb 29, 2008

Spangly A posted:

no

the 1st bit of the extension is not tied to anything, it's on the EU's end and it happened. May could fail to pass it which would be incredibly funny but really it only fucks up parliament

By the 12th of April, the UK needs to decide if it will capitulate to treacherous europeans

if it does, the UK leaves the EU in May (it will not)
if it doesn't, UK also needs to decide whether it will hold euro parliament elections

if it does, it can ask for a long extension and we'll either have an election or may will stop replying to her texts for as long as it takes
if it doesn't, UK catches fire on april 12th

Yes, but, the UK can leave at any point in the 2 year (+extension) period. May has forced a hard leave date into UK Law - the 29th, so unless they make the Statutory Instrument she's planning on introducing to Parliament on Thursday 28th... we're out on Friday regardless

Renfield has issued a correction as of 23:53 on Mar 26, 2019

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:51

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Randler posted:

My understanding is that the UK will leave the EU on April 12th as the earliest due to the terms of the extension. Whatever British parliament might decide regarding the date of exit should be irrelevant from a legal perspective as EU membership would be governed by EU law and not whatever national laws might be passed. (Although I would really like to see the UK considering itself outside the EU by 29 March with the rest of the EU considering it a Member State until 12 April, just to turn the chaos up a notch.)

that would be maximum chaos no deal brexit whereas leaving on the 12 is infinitesimally less than maximum chaos brexit

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:54

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more like BOLLOCKnese

Kurtofan posted:

Hows the brexit coming along

great thanks

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:58

Stoatbringer: Sep 15, 2004; naw, you love it you little ho-bot

Kurtofan posted:

Hows the brexit coming along

Really smooth. We have a solid plan, complete confidence in our leaders and many great trade deals ready to go.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 00:06

Judakel: Jul 29, 2004; Can't post for 9 years!

Brexit will happen. You have no other choice. The people voted for pain.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 00:09

Randler: Jan 3, 2013; ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Renfield posted:

Yes, but, the UK can leave at any point in the 2 year (+extension) period. May has forced a hard leave date into UK Law - the 29th, so unless they make the Statutory Instrument she's planning on introducing to Parliament on Thursday 28th... we're out on Friday regardless

quote:

3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

Unfortunately not.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 00:31

Beowulfs_Ghost: Nov 6, 2009

hakimashou posted:

They're working lords.

More like Labor Aristocracy

# ? Mar 27, 2019 00:33

Nebakenezzer: Sep 13, 2005; The Mote in God's Eye

Jose posted:

i've been extremely pro rigid airship in the doomsday economics thread

Welp, I'm sold, let's get married

I want to be treated like a big dog: I want a roof over my head, free food and love, couch to sleep on, regular walkies

Just FYI, I may not be as lovable as a big dog but I poo poo in a toilet, so

Newfoundland is like this part of Britain you've never been to where all the races and creeds of the UK + Ireland (plus sprinklings of other European countries, the Inuit, and so on) and we sort of live in harmony, but there's only half a million of us and half live on the little peninsula which due to its sorta starfish shape has the weather of the North Atlantic

Dress for the Shetland Islands in March

(Also PS to entertain goons I wrote This five part thing on the British theatrically loving over their rigid airship ambitions. It's somewhat like Brexit in that there's a lot of jaw dropping incompetence on display but it's somewhat happier in that relatively few innocents were killed)

# ? Mar 27, 2019 00:35

Renfield: Feb 29, 2008

Randler posted:

Unfortunately not.

That's a relief (for a couple of weeks at least) - although your max-chaos post earlier is still possible :/

# ? Mar 27, 2019 00:41

An insane mind: Aug 11, 2018

Brexit is like that one simpsons episode with Sideshow Bob and the rakes, but the rakes are smarter decisions and SB is the U.K. stubbornly moving past them.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 00:46

Yuli Ban: Nov 22, 2016; Bot

Shear Modulus posted:

why does labour have people in the house of lords

There was a socialist revolution about 40 years ago, so now all the former nobility are forced to work in heavy labor duties and thus mingle with the proletariat. They're allowed to be in parliament as long as they behave and don't exploit the cat on No. 10.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 00:51

twoday: May 4, 2005; C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Nebakenezzer posted:

(Also PS to entertain goons I wrote This five part thing on the British theatrically loving over their rigid airship ambitions. It's somewhat like Brexit in that there's a lot of jaw dropping incompetence on display but it's somewhat happier in that relatively few innocents were killed)

I�m gonna take a day off to read off to read this, thanks

# ? Mar 27, 2019 01:25

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Spangly A posted:

If we had longer I'd be cheering for someone to sue the EU and rule that article 50 is void if you gently caress your exit bill

hellworld has failed us on this, truly the funniest outcome

there's still time

# ? Mar 27, 2019 01:27

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Shear Modulus posted:

why does labour have people in the house of lords

Because Prime Minister can give out life peerages. There's 90 hereditary peers who sit in the Lord's (ironically the only elections to the Lord's are when a hereditary peer dies there's an election to decide which hereditary peer replaces them, though it's not the public voting on this obviously) and over 650 life peers. They are often ex-MPs who lost their seat or retired, party donors, but sometimes there's luminaries of various fields who sit as Crossbenchers.

And then there's Bishops too, because lol state church. But the point is the Lord's does have an important role in our dumb hodgepodge unwritten constitution so it'd be counterproductive for Labour to just refuse to take seats there when you can. Should probably be replaced with a 2nd chamber elected by PR for a lengthy term or something but electoral reform always ends up low down the list of priorities

# ? Mar 27, 2019 01:29

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

I was promised a May mutiny but it has yet to materialize

# ? Mar 27, 2019 01:34

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

forkboy84 posted:

Because Prime Minister can give out life peerages. There's 90 hereditary peers who sit in the Lord's (ironically the only elections to the Lord's are when a hereditary peer dies there's an election to decide which hereditary peer replaces them, though it's not the public voting on this obviously) and over 650 life peers. They are often ex-MPs who lost their seat or retired, party donors, but sometimes there's luminaries of various fields who sit as Crossbenchers.

And then there's Bishops too, because lol state church. But the point is the Lord's does have an important role in our dumb hodgepodge unwritten constitution so it'd be counterproductive for Labour to just refuse to take seats there when you can. Should probably be replaced with a 2nd chamber elected by PR for a lengthy term or something but electoral reform always ends up low down the list of priorities

Plus by and large the lords is actually a fairly reasonable review body at the moment.

The lords can send legislation back to parliament, but if parliament wants it can force laws through the lords.

Funnily enough not fighting elections means the lords are a lot more likely to decide things on principle, rather than because a focus group or a PAC or donors or lobbyists tries to bribe them.

It's not perfect, but despite it's hilariously antiquated and undemocratic nature, serves its purposes quite effectively these days for the most part.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 01:35

neutral milf hotel: Oct 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

my impression is if brexit happens without a deal then you all can expect to live out the plot of the movie Children Of Men but instead of no kids it'll be no crisps

# ? Mar 27, 2019 01:52

skaboomizzy: Nov 12, 2003; There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
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neutral milf hotel posted:

my impression is if brexit happens without a deal then you all can expect to live out the plot of the movie Children Of Men but instead of no kids it'll be no crisps

Children of Bisto

# ? Mar 27, 2019 02:33

twoday: May 4, 2005; C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Brexit is a dish best served hard

# ? Mar 27, 2019 03:22

Grape: Nov 16, 2017; Happily shilling for China!

Beowulfs_Ghost posted:

More like Labor Aristocracy

Welfare Queens.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 03:22

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

neutral milf hotel posted:

my impression is if brexit happens without a deal then you all can expect to live out the plot of the movie Children Of Men but instead of no kids it'll be no crisps

The film takes place in 2027, where two decades of brexit have left society on the brink of collapse. Illegal immigrants seek sanctuary in the United Kingdom, where the last functioning government imposes oppressive immigration laws on refugees.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 03:30

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

There will be adequate Jaffa cakes

https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1109083285005709314

# ? Mar 27, 2019 03:39

Jollity Farm: Apr 23, 2010

A noble end :britain:

# ? Mar 27, 2019 03:55

Dick Milhous Rock!: Aug 9, 1974

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

There will be adequate Jaffa cakes

https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1109083285005709314

jaffa, CREE

# ? Mar 27, 2019 03:58

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

There will be adequate Jaffa cakes

https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1109083285005709314

this is a mannequin and cannot eat

# ? Mar 27, 2019 04:03

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

Okay, but how many did she end up fitting in there? They left out the vital information.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 04:48

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Dick Milhous Rock! posted:

jaffa, CREE

its KREE you shol'va

# ? Mar 27, 2019 05:04

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

its KREE you shol'va

Indeed.

*slowly absorbs the cast of Farscape*

# ? Mar 27, 2019 05:10

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EAT SHIT

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

The film takes place in 2027, where two decades of brexit have left society on the brink of collapse. Illegal immigrants seek sanctuary in the United Kingdom, where the last functioning government imposes oppressive immigration laws on refugees.

this except it's expats (the immigrants already escaped) and all the ONLY BRITAIN SOLDIERS ON propaganda's the same but the outside world is actually doing just fine

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I would blow Dane Cook posted:

There will be adequate Jaffa cakes

https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1109083285005709314

well I mean at least they have a definite number now

# ? Mar 27, 2019 06:44

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