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Dizz posted:good. all bad pokemon should be banned forever I agree, no pokemon should be banned
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Red Metal posted:It's a move tutor move in USUM Hence 'got' in the past tense. Until the release of USUM, smogon was recommending Defog on a million things that you essentially couldn't get it on in-game without going back and digging up an old game that you might not have bought at the time.
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Mar 27, 2019 08:18
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What's the easiest way to get a Dawn Stone in ORAS?
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Mar 27, 2019 08:26
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Breaking NEws: Smogon has moved Monpoke to the banned tier
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Mar 27, 2019 08:27
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Dan Didio posted:What's the easiest way to get a Dawn Stone in ORAS? Have you found all the ones in game yet? If not I think you need to do secret super training to get it as one of the prizes.
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Mar 27, 2019 08:31
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Flopsy posted:Have you found all the ones in game yet? If not I think you need to do secret super training to get it as one of the prizes. I haven't even found one, my friend. I've barely played this game before.
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Dabir posted:Hence 'got' in the past tense. Until the release of USUM, smogon was recommending Defog on a million things that you essentially couldn't get it on in-game without going back and digging up an old game that you might not have bought at the time. It's a good thing the battle simulator they use doesn't have that problem then
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Mar 27, 2019 10:04
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Dan Didio posted:What's the easiest way to get a Dawn Stone in ORAS?
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I just grinded all the way through to the Super Training right before the one that you can get a Dawn Stone from and then my 3DS decided there wasn't a game card inserted and now I'm basically back at the start, so I think I'm probably done.
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Mar 27, 2019 11:31
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BlazetheInferno posted:I've said it a million times, and I'll say it a million more. Also it should have a 5 turn duration like weather.
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Mar 27, 2019 11:43
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Dawn Stone is what happens when Dawn from DPPt marries Steven Stone
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Mar 27, 2019 11:48
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less laughter posted:Dawn Stone is what happens when Dawn from DPPt marries Steven Stone That dudes like 20+ years older than her gross
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Mar 27, 2019 12:13
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Zore posted:That dudes like 20+ years older than her I don't think Steven is nearly as old as that but it's really creepy anyways since he's still most likely an adult and Dawn's a pre-teen, yeah.
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Mar 27, 2019 12:29
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I didn't say she marries him at 10 you weirdos, she waits with marriage until she's 30 and done with the bachelorette life
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Mar 27, 2019 12:33
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Dabir posted:Hence 'got' in the past tense. Until the release of USUM, smogon was recommending Defog on a million things that you essentially couldn't get it on in-game without going back and digging up an old game that you might not have bought at the time. Smogon still recommends Wish Blissey, a Pokemon which evolves from a relatively obscure event from over 15 years ago where you couldn't fudge natures and it was extremely tedious to reset for good IVs Anyways, I'm one of those anti-Stealth Rock people but I think it would be hilarious to have Stealth Icicles to see how much standard stuff would lose viability before they realize the entire thing is retarded.
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Mar 27, 2019 15:32
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Stealth Punches. Toss a bunch of spring loaded boxing gloves around.
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Mar 27, 2019 15:39
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Stealth Oil. When you send out a pokemon, it has a chance to slip into a wall and go back into its pokeball, forcing a random other pokemon to come out instead.
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Mar 27, 2019 16:19
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Whalley posted:Stealth Oil. When you send out a pokemon, it has a chance to slip into a wall and go back into its pokeball, forcing a random other pokemon to come out instead. Ohhh, that'd be fun
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Mar 27, 2019 16:23
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Whalley posted:Stealth Oil. When you send out a pokemon, it has a chance to slip into a wall and go back into its pokeball, forcing a random other pokemon to come out instead. I kinda wish there was a randomizer for tossing out pokemon Jigglypuff GO! Oh wait, I guess Bidoof
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The Golden Gael posted:r-word Don't do this please 
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I think, just to be a piece of poo poo, I'm gunna start making sure all my pokemon in doubles battles have Spikes. I didn't realize that spikes deals more damage the more times it's used (up to three times); suddenly I'm annoyed I don't use it more.
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Mar 27, 2019 16:47
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RatHat posted:Also it should have a 5 turn duration like weather. Yeah I think this is the real issue with stealth rock. It's too good for too little setup. You need three layers of spikes to match super effective SR damage, and also spikes is negated by flying types and levitate and magic guard (while SR is only negated by magic guard). AND 4x effective SR is unmatched by spikes. AND basically everything learns stealth rock, unlike spikes, toxic spikes, or sticky web. SR either needs multiple turns of setup, or a duration period, or something.
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Mar 27, 2019 16:57
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The Golden Gael posted:Smogon still recommends Wish Blissey, a Pokemon which evolves from a relatively obscure event from over 15 years ago where you couldn't fudge natures and it was extremely tedious to reset for good IVs Yeah, because Smogon works with the simulator. All things being considered, that would be a good and viable set for Blissey if you can get it.
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Mar 27, 2019 16:59
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Borsche69 posted:Yeah I think this is the real issue with stealth rock. It's too good for too little setup. You need three layers of spikes to match super effective SR damage, and also spikes is negated by flying types and levitate and magic guard (while SR is only negated by magic guard). AND 4x effective SR is unmatched by spikes. AND basically everything learns stealth rock, unlike spikes, toxic spikes, or sticky web.
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Dan Didio posted:I just grinded all the way through to the Super Training right before the one that you can get a Dawn Stone from and then my 3DS decided there wasn't a game card inserted and now I'm basically back at the start, so I think I'm probably done. Unfortunately I think that might be your best option, the only other one is either given to you by Wally or there's a 5% chance you'll get it in a rematch fight with the weird sisters on Sea Mauville.
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Flopsy posted:Unfortunately I think that might be your best option, the only other one is either given to you by Wally or there's a 5% chance you'll get it in a rematch fight with the weird sisters on Sea Mauville. On the bright side you can soft reset before the rematch and do it over and over again until you get the item. I remember doing that with another battle that was the only way to get a Destiny Knot, in that same area if I recall. Tedious but ultimately not that hard.
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Blaze Dragon posted:I don't think Steven is nearly as old as that but it's really creepy anyways since he's still most likely an adult and Dawn's a pre-teen, yeah. It's anime ages. He's probably only like 14. Dan Didio posted:I just grinded all the way through to the Super Training right before the one that you can get a Dawn Stone from and then my 3DS decided there wasn't a game card inserted and now I'm basically back at the start, so I think I'm probably done. I hate it when Gamefreak locks some evolution till way too late in the game. Want to use Glaceon in in DPPt? That Ice Rock is all the way at the end of the game. Aegiaslash in XY? The only "normal" way to get a Dusk Stone is in a post game dungeon. Hope you like spending a thousand hours playing touch screen mini games! Crabominable? near the drat Elite Four.
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You can get Crabominable much earlier in USUM
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galagazombie posted:It's anime ages. He's probably only like 14. Spirtomb
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That's not an evolution, though. I get the frustration, you find a cool buddy at the start of the game and you have to carry it through the entire game in its unevolved state, even though everything else reached its final form ages ago, because game freak decided the ice zone is the final level or whatever. It's sitting there, reminding you that it's not everything it could be yet. E: And yes, I know Smogon use the simulator, but their rules get more and more arbitrary over time. They're supposed to be simulating the actual games, that's why you can't do something like putting a Dry Skin Helioptile in a BW-style perma-rain team. The actual games had a cutoff at gen 6, Smogon should have too. In fact, I reckon they should have a rolling distance cutoff - if it takes two or more transfers to get something into the game whose ruleset you're using, it's not legal. Dabir fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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Vikavolt was even worse in OG SM..
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Dabir posted:That's not an evolution, though. I get the frustration, you find a cool buddy at the start of the game and you have to carry it through the entire game in its unevolved state, even though everything else reached its final form ages ago, because game freak decided the ice zone is the final level or whatever. It's sitting there, reminding you that it's not everything it could be yet. It seems weird to be like "they're trying to emulate things you can do in the game", and then suggest an arbitrary limit
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It's not germane to Stealth Rocks but I would like to know why competitive Pokemon has bizarre tiers based on metagame analysis and no points-based balancing like virtually every other (non-card) game where you select what to use from a list of game assets. Seeing as the phone game and now Let's Go assign Pokemon overall power numbers, there is probably a framework for balancing lists in place there that just needs to be grown. Every miniatures game in existence does this.
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SuperKlaus posted:It's not germane to Stealth Rocks but I would like to know why competitive Pokemon has bizarre tiers based on metagame analysis and no points-based balancing like virtually every other (non-card) game where you select what to use from a list of game assets. Seeing as the phone game and now Let's Go assign Pokemon overall power numbers, there is probably a framework for balancing lists in place there that just needs to be grown. Every miniatures game in existence does this. Usage with banlists is likely a better meta than some points based thing, idk. Smogon is not an official Nintendo thing, AFAIK no one is really getting paid
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Mar 27, 2019 22:26
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pikachu's cheeks contain its sexual organs
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maybe modern pikachu but i don't think fat pikachu could pull it off
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The Golden Gael posted:Anyways, I'm one of those anti-Stealth Rock people but I think it would be hilarious to have Stealth Icicles to see how much standard stuff would lose viability before they realize the entire thing is retarded. Stealth Hive. Your opponent throws out a Pokemon and suddenly NO NOT THE BEES!
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Whalley posted:SR should be shattered after it hits something. If you don't have a poke that can do so without taking damage, you're hosed by it - but only once. This is actually a really good idea! Think about it, it'll add extra play into the game since you have to decide what Pokemon to eat up the hit. Well, that's actually not any different than it is now. But it would open up all the Pokemon that are unusable because stealth rock exists.
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Vandar posted:Stealth Hive. God I wish this was a real move
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thetoughestbean posted:God I wish this was a real move It is: Beedrill in Super Smash Bros 64.
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