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When your product is too good and people forget it exists so they try to get people to buy the old lovely solution they already replaced.
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spasticColon posted:I'm still gaming on a 2500k@4.2 with an almost 8 year-old P67 board and 8GB DDR3 Def wait the 2ish months at this point. Even if you don’t end up getting Zen2, the likely price drops on Intel stuff and fire sales on Zen+ will at least save you some coin.
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but with an SSD and a GTX1070.
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craig588 posted:I have some generic USB adapters for 2 WD Reds and 1 Seagate Ironwolf. Nothing name brand, but it works for me with the type of consumer workloads I have. Of course if you have something specific in mind a dedicated box will be better, but to just appear as one big drive that doesn't know anything that I move single multi gigabyte files to it works great. A rpi doesn’t even have gigabit Ethernet so uh yeah that’s a pretty massive mistake. hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Mar 24, 2019 |
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hobbesmaster posted:A rpi doesn’t Ben have gigabit Ethernet so uh yeah that’s a pretty massive mistake. The 3b+ does, but it is limited by the USB 2.0 interface again. It can get up to about 300Mbps if nothing else is using the USB bus.
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spasticColon posted:I'm still gaming on a 2500k@4.2 with an almost 8 year-old P67 board and 8GB DDR3  hell yeah. I'm rocking a 2500k at 4.2, an SSD, and a 980. Does just about everything perfectly still, even vr. When it dies, I'll cry and get the best processor I can for 150ish, and ball out of control on the rest of the build.At this rate, that'll be ryzen 4 or some nonsense.
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Cygni posted:Def wait the 2ish months at this point. Even if you don’t end up getting Zen2, the likely price drops on Intel stuff and fire sales on Zen+ will at least save you some coin. It's unlikely there'll be substantive price drops on Intel CPUs - they've got a massive shortage going and might not be able to shoulder a big enough drop to make them point-for-point competitive with AMD.
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Despite the shortages and some retailer gouging, Intel has kept their MSRPs competitive with AMD, such as the 9400F dropping exactly where it needs to in order to fight the 2600. I think Intel will keep that up if Zen 2 ends up moving the curve, even if those cuts cause shortages again. I also expect the rest of the low end CFL-R parts to come out right with Zen 2. But we shall see
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"Shortages" lol. I am sure it will conveniently end just as Zen2 comes out.
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SeaGoatSupreme posted:
Dudes same here, changes over the years was OS, HDDs, GPU and PSU Windows 10 Pro (x64), Intel Core i5 2500K @4.4Ghz, ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.1), Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti G1 Gaming 6GB, Kingston 1333Mhz DDR3 16GB (4x4), Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB + Others, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, EVGA Supernova G2 750W, Fractal Design Define R3 (Arctic White)
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The only thing that's failed the test of time in my i72600 system from 2011 is the drat fractal chassi power button.  (Also the gfx card but a new 1060gtx filled that out nicely) I fear the ridiculous budget i will rationalize for my next rig.
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Threadkiller Dog posted:I fear the ridiculous budget i will rationalize for my next rig. I used to get basically whole computers every year so for me getting something really high end didn't make sense. Now my computer is largely unchanged from 2 years ago and not giving me a hard time in anything I run. As long as the rate of technology coming out keeps slowing down I can keep getting high end stuff.
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3470 as of last fall, bitches  LRADIKAL posted:LOL, wtf... I can't, I've lost the server.
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MaxxBot posted:I know they've hired like half of the hardware journalists out there already but I wasn't expecting this one. Extremely late but empty quote this post if you remember when Kyle Bennett deleted the [H]ard car forum and then made most of the [H]ard[][] forums pay-only after hundreds of people poo poo on him for buying a Hummer H2 for going off-roading. A corn-cobbing for the ages; before dril, or ever Twitter, were even a thing.
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I still don't know what enthusiast engagement is supposed to be. Negotiating with reviewers, hardware for favorable reviews?
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Combat Pretzel posted:I still don't know what enthusiast engagement is supposed to be. Negotiating with reviewers, hardware for favorable reviews? Adored, but officially on the books for Intel.
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Major motherboard manufacturers released 300-series BIOS updates with support for a new Coffee Lake R0 stepping. (9900K is P0, 8700K is U8, 7700K is B0) The 9900KF (non-iGPU) CPUs reviewed so far were all manufactured with this stepping. They run cooler and overclock higher than regular 9900Ks. Isn't 10-core Comet Lake with dual ringbus supposed to release this summer? It really feels like Intel is throwing 14nm SKUs at the wall to see what sticks. eames fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Mar 26, 2019 |
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eames posted:Major motherboard manufacturers released 300-series BIOS updates with support for a new Coffee Lake R0 stepping. (9900K is P0, 8700K is U8, 7700K is B0) I thought I remembered hearing that the i9s without the iGPU were gimped for market segmentation with no real benefit. Cool to see that I remembered incorrectly; never understood having an i9 with an iGPU as the flagship consumer chip because anyone forking that kind of cash over will have a discrete GPU.
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Intel can't produce enough high-end product and they are resorting to binning the hell out of everything to compensate. IDK if the KFs are just binned or if they're manufactured with a slightly different process that allows them to push things harder without as high of a failure rate but ultimately it's Intel coping with the problems brought on by betting so hard on 10nm and failing.
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Definitely binned. Probably bunk GPU things, so they just bin that sucker and there we go. Intel is sucking.
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So the question now is how many more pluses can Intel add to their 14nm
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Palladium posted:So the question now is how many more pluses can Intel add to their 14nm 14nm+∞ 14nm-NG 14nm-MAX... 8 HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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14+++ perhaps
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Palladium posted:So the question now is how many more pluses can Intel add to their 14nm They're going to start adding the number of pluses it would be after the first. 14nm+x6!
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You just use bigger pluses to represent 5's and smaller ones for singles. Like 14mm++ = 14mm++++++
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The new stepping isn't a process change as far as I know. It's just a new stepping, which normally wouldn't be news at all. Coffee Lake R is still "14nm++"
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didn't know Intel hired out their process naming to Square's Department of Dogshit Confusing Names
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HalloKitty posted:14nm-MAX... 8 It clocks down when you’re trying to run anything CPU intensive.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:didn't know Intel hired out their process naming to Square's Department of Dogshit Confusing Names 14nm+++: Skylake Returns
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Intel Fab Process Unlimited 14+X3
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Just don't do 14+X4--X3 had a lot more features.
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Confuse people into thinking it's a huge truck, then they'll spend 60k on it 14X4
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K8.0 posted:Intel can't produce enough high-end product and they are resorting to binning the hell out of everything to compensate. IDK if the KFs are just binned or if they're manufactured with a slightly different process that allows them to push things harder without as high of a failure rate but ultimately it's Intel coping with the problems brought on by betting so hard on 10nm and failing. It may not just be high-end product, Dell and Lenovo have been slipping ship dates on regular desktops due to "part constraints" and what I've heard is Intel has been late on delivering CPUs.
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Look if they're calling it 14nm++, couldn't they just shorten it to 15nm?
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14nm +IX apple and amd have already paved the roman numeral future for everyone
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SeaGoatSupreme posted:
2500k 4lyfe 
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Look if they're calling it 14nm++, couldn't they just shorten it to 15nm? I mean if this was TSMC, they would absolutely be calling it "11nm" by now.
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The name and actual element size have been disconnected since 65 nm. They could just call it 13 nm and it wouldn't make a difference.
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