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Chucat posted:How were there several MPs (who look like they were all Tories) who voted no on EVERY motion? I don't mean full abstention, just no, to everything. What the hell did they want? There's no limit. Obviously.
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Dabir posted:He genuinely thinks nobody has any memory of his previous actions whatsoever. The tory leadership vote is done by 120,000 people who are obviously already insane.
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Mar 28, 2019 08:56
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Chucat posted:Oh my god it was this. (I'm comparing the people who voted no on everything with people who voted yes for TM's deal and it's 100% so far) Look if we just get everyone to vote on it oh, ten more times or so, at some point someone's going to get tired and vote yes, possibly by accident
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OwlFancier posted:I thought the tories didn't have a vote for leadership? The parliamentary group is supposed to whittle it down to 2, maybe 3 candidates for the wider membership to vote on. They just normally all backstab enough that there's a single winner anyway.
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Gort posted:Druidism, you mean? Having concluded democracy was a mistake, with a great sigh Bercow hefts the mace onto his shoulder and declares 'we need to return to an older form of government'. Prince Charles raises his head, finally his time has come. But Bercow walks past him, and out onto the streets...out past the bustling metropolis of London, out on to salisbury plain. There before the sacred stone monoliths he lays the mace bestowing the authority of British state. The ancient council of druids nod silently, and in one brutal slice sacrifice a goat upon the altar stone. As the blood runs down the cold dark rock, they wail unto the air, beseeching the gods to give us a sign: What kind of terrible Brexit do they want us to suffer? In the crackling light of the growing storm, eldrich things half flicker into existence. On his knees in the mud, head bowed to protect his mind from the vile and unnatural congress of the constitutional debate taking place beyond, Bercow whispers quietly to himself 'This is a more civilized way'.
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I'm so confused now. I genuinely don't even know what is going on. e- Desiderata posted:Having concluded democracy was a mistake, with a great sigh Bercow hefts the mace onto his shoulder and declares 'we need to return to an older form of government'. Prince Charles raises his head, finally his time has come. But Bercow walks past him, and out onto the streets...out past the bustling metropolis of London, out on to salisbury plain. There before the sacred stone monoliths he lays the mace bestowing the authority of British state. The ancient council of druids nod silently, and in one brutal slice sacrifice a goat upon the altar stone. As the blood runs down the cold dark rock, they wail unto the air, beseeching the gods to give us a sign: What kind of terrible Brexit do they want us to suffer? Bring back boudica.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:01
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Boudicca burned down several british towns because she was in a radjie over the roman government. What I'm saying is she would have voted for brexit.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:10
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OwlFancier posted:There's no limit. Obviously. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No deal brexit! (thanks a lot, now it's stuck in my head)
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Imagine the clusterfuck a theoretical IRV second Brexit referendum with all the options would be. "None of the above": 69%
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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OwlFancier posted:Boudicca burned down several british towns because she was in a radjie over the roman government. Well I mean her reasons were pretty good, getting flogged and your daughters getting raped would piss off anyone.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:18
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Chucat posted:Well I mean her reasons were pretty good, getting flogged and your daughters getting raped would piss off anyone. Nobody is denying that there are systemic problems with the roman empire. But the "set fire to everything until they go away" exit plan doesn't seem credible.
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OwlFancier posted:Boudicca burned down several british towns because she was in a radjie over the roman government. If we have to raze colchester again so be it.
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JFairfax posted:Corbyn was able to get stadiums and festivals chanting his name kinda reminds u of someone don't it
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What if...Corbyn promises that no matter how they vote, he'll throw up his hands and say OK YOU WIN YOU HAVE DEFEATED ME, would that get any of them off their arses and commit to something? Obviously don't tell them it doesn't matter, just make them think Corbyn will lose in some indefinable way because it's clear to me that they're worried that he'll win in some indefinable way. I"m talking about both major parties here, they seem to be as one that Corbyn must not succeed in any way whatever it is they're afraid of.
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I didn't read the thread last night because my poor dead heart can't take it anymore, and when I accidentally saw the thread title before bed it cost me a few hours sleep, thought something terrible had happened. But I've checked the last few pages and it's Costner Chat. Am I to assume that Nothing Has Changed?
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Barry Foster posted:I didn't read the thread last night because my poor dead heart can't take it anymore, and when I accidentally saw the thread title before bed it cost me a few hours sleep, thought something terrible had happened. From what I gather parliament couldn't actually vote yes to anything yesterday, but there's a huge margin between how badly each proposal failed, with no deal and no brexit being the worst performers.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:25
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OwlFancier posted:Nobody is denying that there are systemic problems with the roman empire. But the "set fire to everything until they go away" exit plan doesn't seem credible. Worked for the Saxons, though. Until those damned normans came.  What I am saying is that we should ban knights.
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OwlFancier posted:Nobody is denying that there are systemic problems with the roman empire. But the "set fire to everything until they go away" exit plan doesn't seem credible. Centrist takes coming at you live from the 1st century CE.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:28
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OwlFancier posted:Boudicca burned down several british towns because she was in a radjie over the roman government. In fairness her beef with the Romans was a bit more substantial than the colour of her passport and the bendiness of bananas.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:36
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OwlFancier posted:From what I gather parliament couldn't actually vote yes to anything yesterday, but there's a huge margin between how badly each proposal failed, with no deal and no brexit being the worst performers. Did anyone expect anything else? I never once thought anything would actually get over the line last night. Doesn't it go back to the thunderdome on Monday, least popular options left off? I've gone back a bit and saw everyone panicking but I'm not sure what result they were hoping for
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Mar 28, 2019 09:36
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Boris is inexplicably popular with the Tory membership but the Parliamentary party hates him so it's unlikely he'd make it as far as the actual membership vote.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:36
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Does May have the numbers to get MV3 through; can she even table it? Everyone seems to be running ahead again. Must admit failing to get her deal through and being pushed out anyway is a fitting end.
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Rustybear posted:Does May have the numbers to get MV3 through; can she even table it? a) No, because the DUP are still going to vote against it and so are a lot of the ERG b) No-one knows for sure but it's not looking like Bercow would let it happen
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Rustybear posted:Does May have the numbers to get MV3 through; can she even table it? Everyone seems to be running ahead again. She doesn't at this point, it's still quite well off having the numbers. Even if she did have the numbers there needs to be enough substantial changes before Bercow allows it to be voted on. There is some legal maneuvering that May can do to get around the Speaker for example end the current session of parliament and start a new one, and I forgot the other but it involved some complex lawyering, but both options would be politically very costly at this point.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:46
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Flipping the question of the voting patterns of the ERG and DUP on its head, what does it look like they are willing to vote for? Clearly there is a percentage of completely off the deep end loons, but the whole reason they supposedly posed a threat was a unified hard brexit front. This no longer seems to be the case?
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Mar 28, 2019 09:54
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Just discovered the house apparently still does Christian prayers every morning before they start.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:54
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Didn't #10 say that they would end the current session but they don't think they have a majority to pass a queen's speech vote so they wouldn't be able to form another government at that point?
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Steve2911 posted:Just discovered the house apparently does Christian prayers every morning before they start.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:56
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lol election season is on and it's getting salty already https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1111190204138864640
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Vlex posted:Flipping the question of the voting patterns of the ERG and DUP on its head, what does it look like they are willing to vote for? Clearly there is a percentage of completely off the deep end loons, but the whole reason they supposedly posed a threat was a unified hard brexit front. This no longer seems to be the case? The DUP abstained on the customs union proposal (along with the SNP, the Lib Dems and the TIGs). Which presumably means they consider it less bad than May's deal. But of course none of the small parties will actually vote for it, because then it would get a majority and they couldn't continue pursuing their absolute favorite option. Better we inch ever closer to No Deal.
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Mar 28, 2019 09:59
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Lmao https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1111189793164181505?s=19
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https://twitter.com/malaiseforever/status/1111192683782066176 Capitalism driving innovation there.
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Barry Foster posted:Did anyone expect anything else? I never once thought anything would actually get over the line last night. Doesn't it go back to the thunderdome on Monday, least popular options left off? There was a large margin between different failure states so it seems likely it could be narrowed down, I think people are just wanting it to be over as soon as possible which is understandable.
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Julio Cruz posted:a) No, because the DUP are still going to vote against it and so are a lot of the ERG If she has the numbers to pass it she has the numbers to overturn the Speaker's decision. She doesn't so she won't, so she can keep blaming the Speaker. e: This is also the answer to all those questions ITT last night about why the Press were talking about MV3 as if it could happen - had ERG+DUP come over there was an outside chance it could have happened, and that was what seemed to be going on last night.
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It just hit me that your politicians are still, after 33 months, arguing over how to interpret the results of a yes/no referendum lmao
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/malaiseforever/status/1111192683782066176 Yeah seriously if you want to know what it's like to ride a 1980's pile of bus bits on a freight bed, just come here. Visit saltburn while you're at it, nice day out.
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Steve2911 posted:Just discovered the house apparently still does Christian prayers every morning before they start. Wait until you find out about our state religion which the Queen is the head of.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Wait until you find out about our state religion which the Queen is the head of. Oh for sure. But surely there are plenty of MPs who'd like their prayers included too. (I don't know the religious demographics of MPs, for all I know every single one of them is CofE lol).
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