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Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy

Elviscat posted:

This is as it should be, in 2018 the great and progressive institution known as the U.S. loving Navy implemented a plan that would allow any of its service members to transition, free of cost. Now, it was ultimately cancelled by a regressive cheeto with a Twitter account, but if that's the business in the modern era, I think an educational institution should be able to accommodate anyone seeking an education.

Fake Edit: apparently the CNO doesn't give a poo poo about tweets not written into law



Hah, apparently that was from 12MAR this year. Hell yeah.

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FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



keykey posted:

You just got a fluff off answer. Congrats on your first step in dealing with a school, it will go nowhere and you’ll feel even further frustration before it’s over.

It’s 2019 and poo poo like this is blood in the water for journalists

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Queen Combat posted:

Hah, apparently that was from 12MAR this year. Hell yeah.

Last year there was a video from the CNO and MCPON and 2 hours of training related to the program, eligibility, and how everyone is expected to treat those that elect to go through with it, they put more than a little thought into this.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

I'm not hip-deep in academia anymore but I read this as "that prof got loving chewed out but we don't want to put it in writing because that is an admission of wrongdoing."

Give it a few days to brew before you do anything else, including getting mad.

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

It’s 2019 and poo poo like this is blood in the water for journalists

Completely agreed, but the only thing academics are good at is non-speak while not throwing their tenured colleagues under the bus. They won’t have QC in their system forever, but will have to work with professor tenure until either email writer or professor tenure move on. They probably showed professor tenure the email and told them to play ball until QC leaves.

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
There's no tenure here. It's nurses teaching nurses. I'm their first known trans student, so when I came out in September I had a meeting with the director and the corporate office to come up with a game plan for policies. We agreed to work together so that I could, frankly, be an open example to others so that word would spread that the school is LGBT+ friendly, and increase enrollment. By doing so that also makes the school open for different scholarship sponsorship opportunities, and potentially increased profit.

This is a private institute, not a university or traditional college. The average age of enrollment is like 26, but now openly LGBT+ people, or those that are more aggressive about it, are at and above that age, so I can see their reasoning for wanting to spearhead new and frank policies to cater to those wallets.

That's why my first email started with the, "six month update" line. Letting her know.

Because of me, we got a standing policy changed that said you HAD to use the bathroom that aligned with your driver's license. As I had changed that to F before ever coming out openly, the corporate office said I had to start using the women's, even though I wasn't comfortable with that yet. Now it's more flexible. I was allowed to switch once I was comfortable. Overall, I think the change also put less stress on others, as the before-me barreling into the other restroom would have made a much larger scene. Also, many people aren't as fortunate as I have been in being able to legally change so quickly, so the reverse could have happened where I look like I do NOW, but would have been forced to use the men's. Again, that's a bad news bears scenario.

Students now introduce themselves on the first day with pronouns if they wish. That's part of many hospital policies now, and is both good for everybody's well being, and also serves as a kind of real life training, especially if you work in psych facilities or with LEOs (city of Phoenix released guidelines in 2014 that say an officer should, if ever unsure, ask, "would you prefer Sir or Ma'am?" because it reduces aggression from suspects, which makes sense and all the surrounding departments have adopted those guidelines). I didn't push for it, but mentioned it in passing to the dean/program director (email response person) during one of the checks and I guess she took it to heart.



The current situation isn't an adversarial one, but the school has made it clear that staff who can't be tolerant will be removed. One instructor was gently 'allowed to leave' after the second semester, after five years because she was open about hating men and thinking they didn't deserve to be nurses (which is a kind of reverse misogyny???). Unrelated, she was much kinder to me after I told her privately that I was transitioning. I also think the school being under new ownership starting in early 2018 has a lot to do with this, maybe? A year would be around when they start to get a hang of operations and feel comfortable with making changes I would think.

Queen Combat fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Mar 29, 2019

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
The word you're looking for is probably "misandry".

TBH I'm surprised telling her you were transitioning improved matters. I'd kind of assume anyone with that kind of attitude is going to be a raging TERF.

I think you're taking the right approach to this stuff. For the most part, you can effect change without having to be a bull in a China shop - not to say that you shouldn't be able to properly back your position up as necessary, but it's usually best to see if people will do as asked before stepping that up to "telling" or "making".

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

Elviscat posted:

It's funny because when spoken correctly it sir/ma'am can be a straight up pejorative, particularly when spoken by an irate cop with his hand on the taser, it's mostly a tactic in rote professional language, so that no one can bring up the fact that the cop called them a "dirty motherfucker" before tasing them in the balls.

Much like dude and motherfucker are California staples, in my neck of the world Sir/Ma'am are 100% "hey fuckface, what is your loving issue" even when you're talking to a member of the pigstablishment.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

I wont go into my security too much here but lets just say I'm a paranoid greybeard that doesnt use normal browsers because I cant control and secure them the way I want, uses alternate OS'es for the same reasons in VM's, and I dont use public wifi esp when doing banking stuff.

Card cloners don't ever need to see your card, it's not a dirty swipe/someone stealing the number. The software can be generated to steal the number before they even exist. My BoA mastercard gets compromised every 6 months like clockwork, my Discover card never does. Chip 'n' Pin country folk are particularly naive about this, I've noticed.

meatpimp posted:

Late to this game, man chat is moving fast today.
So your non-review of Natural Light is making me assume you like it more than you expected.

People go through stages. Age 14-20 you buy Natural Light/Beast/Pabst/Old Style. Then you get fancy work pay in your early 20's, and move up to Bud Light or Miller Genuine Draft because you're hi-falutin' now.. Then you hit your 30's and get super-pimping rich Big Man stage, and increase your status to drinking Heineken or Stella or Craft Beers (does anyone here buy Craft Milk?) - then you hit the age meatpimp and I are and.... you realize beer is beer and if you want to swing dicks, beer choice is a pretty plebeian way to do it.

Rhyno posted:

There's no way that's actual name dude. Stephen needs to stop being a dipshit.

Anfernee Hardaway got his first name because that's how his mom thought Anthony was spelled. Why do you care what someone calls themselves on their joke work badge at lovely Work McJob?

Are you going to be that guy who says "Sir" when the person wants to be called ma'am because you know better? Aren't you the AIDs kid anyway? Why didn't you just start calling yourself An? Is it because you want your name to be Ryan? Let Tephen have a stupid name.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Misogyny and misandry are both rooted in the same bioessentialist bullshit, it says men and women act certain ways and if you're perceived as "acting against type" you're weird and probably have ulterior motives and must be punished. So a male nurse is Bad and must be Punished, but if you then transition the tension is gone and you're Allowed again. TERFism just adds another variable (your birth sex), such that you could be a woman nurse, but because you "should have been a man" you're still bad and gross.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
Feeling rather sore right now.

Riding in a marked bike lane, some numpty in a ute decides oh hey I need to answer a call and decides to duck into said bike lane and brake. Right where I was.

Both hands took the brunt of the impact, I ended up not falling off as I grabbed the tray and stopped it from getting any worse. Back strained, ambos and police checked me out (it looked like I had broken a hand but turns out it was just swollen and cut). Bike fine, just some cosmetic stratches on the levers. Driver charged with neg driving.

Right hand is gonna be loving stiff and sore tomorrow.

Lets just say I have very little time for anti cyclists idiots right now.

ephphatha
Dec 18, 2009




Glad you're relatively uninjured and also pleasantly surprised the cops actually decided to charge the driver, that seems to be rare.

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>

Soiled Meat
drat. That could have been so much worse, I’m glad it wasn’t. People do not give driving the amount of attention it deserves.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Yikes, glad it wasn't worse - I've had two friends get critically hurt by inattentive drivers hitting them on their bikes now. Amazing the police charged the driver.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Ephphatha posted:

Glad you're relatively uninjured and also pleasantly surprised the cops actually decided to charge the driver, that seems to be rare.

Well given the one meter rule, phone use and the fact I was in a bike lane it's about as easy as you can get to prove neg driving I suspect.

The way my fingers swelled after impact I was scared I was going to see bone sticking out of the skin. And this is just another reason why I wear gloves with finger protection while riding.

(Even after some icing I cant wear my engagement ring right now but w/e just glad it's not worse)

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Ether Frenzy posted:

non-review of Natural Light is making me assume you like it more than you expected.

People go through stages. Age 14-20 you buy Natural Light/Beast/Pabst/Old Style. Then you get fancy work pay in your early 20's, and move up to Bud Light or Miller Genuine Draft because you're hi-falutin' now.. Then you hit your 30's and get super-pimping rich Big Man stage, and increase your status to drinking Heineken or Stella or Craft Beers (does anyone here buy Craft Milk?) - then you hit the age meatpimp and I are and.... you realize beer is beer and if you want to swing dicks, beer choice is a pretty plebeian way to do it.

Guilty.

It tastes like a slightly more astringent Budweiser. It's not great, but I was expecting it to be much worse. It's more of a beer than Bud Light Platinum, which has the same ABV, but really drinks like alcoholic soda water. My previous cheapo swill, Miller High Life, is more water than Natural Ice. I pre-judged and, for that, I am sorry.

What I'm not sorry about is shunning it because it comes in a can. Drinking beer from a can screams white trash to me. I'd pay more for beer in proper bottles, but for the lowest-end, there's no option. :(

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

So the new Rammstein single is certainly something!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeQM1c-XCDc

I can see why its upset a few people!

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

I pour it into imperial pint glasses usually, and pretend I'm having a 2/3rds of a pulled pint of Kronenberg or maybe Peroni. If I think 'mainstream euro lager' it is hard to tell the difference out of these glasses.

It's far better than the other "superlights", like BL Platinum or Michelob Ultra, which seem to have no alcohol in them. I credit the discovery to going back to my hometown and drinking with my homies there (Busch Light or PBR) and their dads (Miller Lite) for reminding me that cheap beer is perfectly fine, and once I saw how much I was saving (and fewer trips to the store getting 30 vs 14) against Heineken Light at half the carbs...

Down 29 pounds in 6 weeks simply by dropping those useless carbs and going to a muscle milk breakfast, green fiber drink for lunch, then a piece of fish or chicken for dinner with veg. And as many beers as I feel like. Weights and 5 miles of cardio every night for 15-30 mins total while I watch Colbert.

Gliding around at 201/6'1" now, last time I was under 200 (5 years ago) I was way back in my 30's still and eating 500 calories a day to specifically do that as a personal challenge. Can't say that I'm disappointed to still be able to pull it off at the advanced age of 44 without doing anything drastic.


I think I've seen you mention being broad shouldered (I am as well) so I'm amused to learn that under the outdated BMI theory I am apparently in the "overweight" category yet have a visible 6 pack.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

Ferremit posted:

So the new Rammstein single is certainly something!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeQM1c-XCDc

I can see why its upset a few people!

Here's the video if you don't want to log in: https://www.reddit.com/r/Rammstein/comments/b6hy2o/rammstein_deutschland_official_video/

Song is killer, I'm pretty sure Rammstein has been always been definitively anti-fascist although unfortunately the alt-right thinks the opposite.

reddit posted:

Context my friend. The song is clearly the band weighing their pride in Germany's past with their shame for Germany's wrongs. The point of the Nazis wasn't "look, Nazis! Cool!" It was supposed to be an example of how although his heart longs for Germany, he knows how evil the country has been at times too.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

meatpimp posted:

Drinking beer from a can screams white trash to me.

Hey did u call me

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Ferremit posted:

So the new Rammstein single is certainly something!
I can see why its upset a few people!

Yeah I can see maybe a few issues there!

But as someone else posted - they are just showing, not approving the history. I'm actually more pissed off they were trying to tug on nostalgia strings with most of the lyrics and tunes.

One day in the land of Idiocracy I will see the video for Pussy played on regular TV like it's nothing and I'll be that grandpa telling the kids to cover their eyes.

Amazing band to see live though. Wow.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Ether Frenzy posted:


Song is killer, I'm pretty sure Rammstein has been always been definitively anti-fascist although unfortunately the alt-right thinks the opposite.

Yeah well, it's not like the Alt-Right have much clue about Rage Against the Machine either despite how utterly explicit Zak is about being a commie / socialist and a proud Antifa. But hey, to be Alt-Right you have to be a true dumb gently caress to begin with

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Yeah well, it's not like the Alt-Right have much clue about Rage Against the Machine either despite how utterly explicit Zak is about being a commie / socialist and a proud Antifa. But hey, to be Alt-Right you have to be a true dumb gently caress to begin with

Yup.

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

But hey, to be Alt-Right you have to be a true dumb gently caress to begin with

Basically. A lot of bands have had to come out and explicitly say "Nazis bad" to stop people from bringing swastika banners to concerts and similar.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Last night my boss tested me with "hey you know you have a days holiday you have to use before the end of March right" I was "urr, wot?" And he said "see you Monday"

Today I've woken up real late (7:15), cooked pancakes for my kids, took them to school, washed both cars, baked some bread, watched the birds in the garden and had longer conversations with my wife than I have for months. If I wasn't working Saturday and Sunday it'd be a perfect mental health break.

Also, apart from this thread I've read no news or internet today, I swear Brexit is going to kill me regardless of the result. But I feel better for the tech blackout.

T-Square
May 14, 2009

meatpimp posted:

Drinking beer from a can screams white trash to me.

You can call me white trash all you want, but there's nothing more satisfying than arriving at your up-north extended weekend vacation stay in redneck country on a hot summer late-afternoon, pulling your keys out of your ignition, and stabbing a cheap beer and shotgunning that bitch.


:banjo:








But yes, even just Pabst tastes miles better out of the bottle than the can in my opinion.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Queen Combat posted:

Basically. A lot of bands have had to come out and explicitly say "Nazis bad" to stop people from bringing swastika banners to concerts and similar.

Also see: literally every time someone plays Born In The USA at a political event

Ether Frenzy posted:

does anyone here buy Craft Milk?

Yo.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
Yep. https://www.millersdairy.com

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

(Even after some icing I cant wear my engagement ring right now but w/e just glad it's not worse)

Didn't know this was a thing for dudes. Common in 'staya?

Sorry you got hurt. Other drivers prevent me from ever wanting to road bike or ride a motorcycle.

meatpimp posted:

What I'm not sorry about is shunning it because it comes in a can. Drinking beer from a can screams white trash to me. I'd pay more for beer in proper bottles, but for the lowest-end, there's no option. :(

My favorite beer in the world comes in cans, and I buy it that way because it fits in the fridge better. Tastes the same or better vs bottles but I'm still fancy enough to pour it into a glass. :smug:

Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Mar 29, 2019

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
Natty light comes in both regular and shorty glass bottles for the same Price as cans so now you have no excuse

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Queen Combat posted:

Basically. A lot of bands have had to come out and explicitly say "Nazis bad" to stop people from bringing swastika banners to concerts and similar.

Back in the late 60's, The Stooges guitarist Ron Ashton used to wear Nazi garb his father got off literal Nazis in WW2, like Nazi medals and the sleeves and poo poo. He did it for the shock value but he caught so much flack (obviously) he had to stop wearing it. Apparently a group called the Jewish Defense League was planning to drag him off stage and beat the poo poo out of him, but one of his Jewish friends and promoter caught wind of it, donated some money to them and explained that Ron wasn't actually a Nazi so they backed off :v:

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

Ok then

Suburban Dad posted:

Didn't know this was a thing for dudes. Common in 'staya?
My fiancee and I have been wearing rings since before we got engaged. Simple ones, and she got an actual engagement ring after we did get engaged, but we've been wearing since months before.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



i too wore an engagement ring

i didnt realize it wasnt much of a thing in the states until you brought it up though

Tremek
Jun 10, 2005

That Rammstein video is well-crafted. Ze Germans (and frankly a lot of the international Jewish community) really hate being reminded that Ein Volk were murdering millions only a couple generations ago. To think that Rammstein is making light of the Holocaust here is to miss the point.

re: beer, I suspect many? of you know that science has proven that bottles (light) are in fact bad for beer and cans are a better delivery mechanism, and that people let their biases influence how they enjoy said beer:

quote:

The results of the first questionnaire suggest that people have preconceived preferences for beer packaging types. Specifically, the researchers found that 61.29% of participants preferred beer from a bottle, while 11.29% preferred beer from a can and 27.42% thought they both tasted the same.

The results of the main test showed that participants rated the beer poured from the bottle as tasting significantly better than the beer poured from the can. Perceived quality was also rated as slightly higher in the beer coming from the bottle, but this result was only marginally significant.

Since it’s possible the participants seeing the packaging could influence how they rated the beers, the blind tasting follow-up phase of the study was performed.

Results from the blind taste test – when participants had no knowledge about the beers or where they came from – showed that there were no preferences for bottled or canned beer, one way or another. Nearly 45% of participants rated the canned beer better than the bottled, 41% of participants rated the bottled beer better than the canned, and close to 1.5% said they both tasted the same.

Different study here with similar conclusions (that people let perceptive bias influence their opinion when they can see whether it comes from a bottle or can, but when they can't, they can't identify the source):

quote:

Nevertheless, those who evaluated the beer from the bottle rated it as tasting better than those who rated the beer served from the can. Having demonstrated such a perceptual difference (in terms of taste), we then went on to investigate whether people would prefer one packaging format over the other when the beer from bottle and can was served blind to a new group of participants (i.e., when the participants did not know the packaging material). The participants in this control study (n = 29) were asked which beer they preferred. Alternatively, they could state that the two samples tasted the same. No sign of a consistent preference was obtained under such blind tasting conditions. Explanations for the psychological impact of the packaging format, in terms of differences in packaging weight (between tin and glass), and/or prior associations of quality with
specific packaging materials/formats (what some have chosen to call ‘image molds’), are discussed.

TLDR; our brains lie to us a lot.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
^^^^^
Yeah, this is why all the good beer in California is now basically all sold in pint cans.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Well given the one meter rule, phone use and the fact I was in a bike lane it's about as easy as you can get to prove neg driving I suspect.

The way my fingers swelled after impact I was scared I was going to see bone sticking out of the skin. And this is just another reason why I wear gloves with finger protection while riding.

(Even after some icing I cant wear my engagement ring right now but w/e just glad it's not worse)
When I got hit in a bike.lane here in 'murica, the cops cited no one, in the police report blamed me for riding in the bike lane, which meant I had to go to.court (which I did) to get paid for my bike and injuries (which I did and she was then 100% at fault).

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

We only sell beer in cans at the resort I work because we are on the beach and having glass containers is illegal. It's ridiculous how many people get all butthurt when they can't have bottles, I've seen people actually walk away from the bar because of it. Get over your bottle fetish, people.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




FAT32 SHAMER posted:

i too wore an engagement ring

i didnt realize it wasnt much of a thing in the states until you brought it up though

Typically just the women get them here and then have them soldered to the wedding ring. My wife didn't want another ring soldered or otherwise so she just had the engagement ring jazzed up with more stones and wears just The One Ring. :shrug:

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Yeah, I buy local milk too. It's like 15% more expensive and a lot tastier.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


cakesmith handyman posted:

I swear Brexit is going to kill me regardless of the result.

Hopefully it'll kill a lot of people, mostly the ones voting for it...

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
DOORS



Doing this as an assembly line worked out quite well.

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Jun 22, 2004

I am a pretty pretty princess, watch me do my pretty princess dance....
Who do you think you are, Jim Morrison?

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