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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:i thought teslas set themselves on fire to avoid this data loss problem that was what i suggested on twitter https://twitter.com/KateLibc/status/1111771681876410368
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Mar 30, 2019 00:49
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Why have persistent storage on a car at all? If the car loses power, wipe everything. but my seat preferences!
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Mar 30, 2019 00:50
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imo cars have been ticking bombs of potential embarrassment ever since they got the ability to store your radio presets
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Mar 30, 2019 00:51
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Lutha Mahtin posted:imo cars have been ticking bombs of potential embarrassment ever since they got the ability to store your radio presets tbh the only radio station i have saved in my car is radio one and i use carplay for everything else. i don't think i've ever used any other feature in my car's onboard system
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Mar 30, 2019 00:53
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yeah but tesla's a special case where you can buy from the factory and it'll arrive with 5k miles and someone else's house programmed in
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Mar 30, 2019 00:54
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and super loud porn playing on the web browser, apparently
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Mar 30, 2019 01:03
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Why have persistent storage on a car at all? If the car loses power, wipe everything. but ... then anyone can reset the mileage by unplugging the battery! there's definitely no solution to this problem, please don't waste your time trying to think of one, elon musk is smarter than you
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Mar 30, 2019 01:09
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Wait, does Putty actually suck? Should I hobbesmaster posted:use tera term on windows
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Mar 30, 2019 01:09
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Lutha Mahtin posted:imo cars have been ticking bombs of potential embarrassment ever since they got the ability to store your radio presets Those used to reset whenever you disconnected the battery.
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Mar 30, 2019 01:59
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Those used to reset whenever you disconnected the battery. not the mechanical ones where you pulled the preset button towards you to set it
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Mar 30, 2019 02:01
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Those used to reset whenever you disconnected the battery. yeah then they got fixed
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Mar 30, 2019 02:04
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the yeti posted:Wait, does Putty actually suck? Should I I don't know if PuTTY is good or bad on a technical level because I don't use it very intensively but its user interface for configuring and saving connection details has always been horrific.
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Mar 30, 2019 02:22
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Doom Mathematic posted:I don't know if PuTTY is good or bad on a technical level because I don't use it very intensively but its user interface for configuring and saving connection details has always been horrific. authentically 1998
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Mar 30, 2019 02:28
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Doom Mathematic posted:I don't know if PuTTY is good or bad on a technical level because I don't use it very intensively but its user interface for configuring and saving connection details has always been horrific. This is extremely a good point
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Mar 30, 2019 02:33
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Doom Mathematic posted:I don't know if PuTTY is good or bad on a technical level because I don't use it very intensively but its user interface for configuring and saving connection details has always been horrific. its insanely frustrating that the default behavior is when a session is closed (either due to timeout w/ ssh or physical disconnect w/ com ports etc) that the program closes rather than go back to the open connection screen I mean its a simple option to change to make that go away, but I always forget about it when I put it on a new machine for the first time
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Mar 30, 2019 02:37
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BIGFOOT EROTICA posted:its insanely frustrating that the default behavior is when a session is closed (either due to timeout w/ ssh or physical disconnect w/ com ports etc) that the program closes rather than go back to the open connection screen This is really annoying, I use MobaXTerm which is basically a Cygwin wrapper, and it doesn't do that.
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Mar 30, 2019 02:52
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the yeti posted:Wait, does Putty actually suck? Should I you can install the windows linux subsystem if that's more your style
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Mar 30, 2019 03:23
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Lutha Mahtin posted:you can install the windows linux subsystem if that's more your style It really is pretty decent.
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Mar 30, 2019 03:49
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Lutha Mahtin posted:you can install the windows linux subsystem if that's more your style
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Lutha Mahtin posted:you can install the windows linux subsystem if that's more your style I mean putty is fine, it just has a fair number of mildly annoying UI quirks that you can change/get used to
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Mar 30, 2019 04:09
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you can pause any openSSH session by hitting enter and then ~. I find a combination of that and a couple of putty windows is pretty good!
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I find openssh on cygwin to be very needs-suiting.
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Mar 30, 2019 05:13
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CommieGIR posted:This is really annoying, I use MobaXTerm which is basically a Cygwin wrapper, and it doesn't do that. same
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BIGFOOT EROTICA posted:its insanely frustrating that the default behavior is when a session is closed (either due to timeout w/ ssh or physical disconnect w/ com ports etc) that the program closes rather than go back to the open connection screen ?? If the session gets closed a little dialog box pops open to say closed, but you can always right click on the title bar of the dead session and it has options to reconnect or open a new session. never had to change any settings for that to work
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Mar 30, 2019 07:55
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Janitor Prime posted:but my seat preferences! and whether the headlights come on on their own and the door locking behavior (does it lock when i move? does it lock when i walk away? does hitting the button with the fob unlock my doors or all doors?) and the settings for screen and instrumentation brightness and the preference settings for what screen the display starts on or what configuration the digital instrument cluster uses or what automated features are turned on or off when the car starts thats not even touching the 20 preferences you can set in the infotainment system itself
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Mar 30, 2019 07:57
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while we're on the topic tencent had a look at tesla's autopilot https://keenlab.tencent.com/en/whitepapers/Experimental_Security_Research_of_Tesla_Autopilot.pdf
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Mar 30, 2019 14:27
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Lutha Mahtin posted:and super loud porn playing on the web browser, apparently I'm going to need more details on this one.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:"screen scrape some data to csv and email it to someone that is gonna delete it because the content is garbage" this is how I read the forums
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Mar 30, 2019 15:57
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:while we're on the topic tencent had a look at tesla's autopilot https://keenlab.tencent.com/en/whitepapers/Experimental_Security_Research_of_Tesla_Autopilot.pdf three small square stickers on the pavement were all it took to make autopilot recognize a "lane" and send the car in the wrong direction. lol you could kill dozens with one roll of white duck tape.
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Mar 30, 2019 16:25
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fde keyed to your key fob is the correct solution either way, no need to invent less convenient solutions just because doing the fde requires a slight redesign
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Mar 30, 2019 16:32
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Volmarias posted:I'm going to need more details on this one. it was posted recently in one of the elon musk threads. a guy buys a tesla, brings his dad along to pick it up. they start fiddling around with the touchscreen to learn how it works and the browser starts blasting hardcore porn at max volume, and they flail around trying to turn it off. they speculate it was from someone who test drove the car before they got it
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LastInLine posted:and whether the headlights come on on their own How often is your car going to lose battery power?
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:fde keyed to your key fob is the correct solution either way, no need to invent less convenient solutions just because doing the fde requires a slight redesign keeping in mind that multiple fobs enrolled in the same car are distinct units and not clones of each other.
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Mar 30, 2019 17:59
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Shifty Pony posted:three small square stickers on the pavement were all it took to make autopilot recognize a "lane" and send the car in the wrong direction. lol you could kill dozens with one roll of white duck tape. otoh I was fairly impressed that remote control is relatively difficult. The exploit chain is rather long and it looks like they have reasonable mitigations in there. As long as they keep up with patching flaws it won't be too bad. I was expecting Linux kernel 2.4 with 10 year old unpatched vulns
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Raere posted:otoh I was fairly impressed that remote control is relatively difficult. The exploit chain is rather long and it looks like they have reasonable mitigations in there. As long as they keep up with patching flaws it won't be too bad. I was expecting Linux kernel 2.4 with 10 year old unpatched vulns probably locked down so hard mostly to keep people from unlocking features they didn't pay for and third party mechanics from working on it.
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Mar 30, 2019 18:23
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Midjack posted:keeping in mind that multiple fobs enrolled in the same car are distinct units and not clones of each other. which would be largely a feature; your fob -- your settings
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Mar 30, 2019 18:45
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Shifty Pony posted:probably locked down so hard mostly to keep people from unlocking features they didn't pay for and third party mechanics from working on it. that's probably the best carrot to drive that donkey
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Mar 30, 2019 18:59
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I found a huge repo of old Blackhat zines, phreaking box schematics and leaked security documents. morehouse.org All the Cult of the Dead Cow and Phrack articles, some very cool stuff.
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The Scientist posted:I found a huge repo of old Blackhat zines, phreaking box schematics and leaked security documents. beto going above and beyond just releasing his tax returns
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