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habeasdorkus posted:It can be two things. It also helps establish why he's got his inferiority complex; he actually proved himself to Meti first, doing what Maya, who was possibly twice his age at the time, would not, and yet eventually she surpassed him and became Meti's only pupil, won her throne, and then left it, resulting in it falling into his hands one way or another. Regardless of the specifics, that's already a setup for making him feel like poo poo and needing to prove himself and always be in control. No wonder he's the way he is. The temptation thing fits with this too, actually; he's probably very familiar with desperation, he's just the person exploiting it now rather than experiencing it. Dr Subterfuge posted:I think Operant has described Incubus's backstory as a hero's journey that curdled. What's going on right now is starting to give that description some interesting context. Oh yeah, in a normal story, well, first things wouldn't be quite so brutal probably, but also this would be a big moment for the up-and-coming protagonist, starting their metaphorical journey and all that. Instead, well, he became the Lord of the Pit with a throne that he didn't earn. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Mar 30, 2019 |
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Roland Jones posted:Instead, well, he became the Lord of the Pit with a throne that he didn't earn. Who knows. In his mind he might see himself as deserving of it. Like you said, he proved himself to Meti first. Though the significance of that might pale in comparison to future accomplishments by Maya and himself, he may still cling to that initial encounter.
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Who knows. In his mind he might see himself as deserving of it. Like you said, he proved himself to Meti first. Though the significance of that might pale in comparison to future accomplishments by Maya and himself, he may still cling to that initial encounter. If he felt like he earned it, he would probably be able to actually sit on his throne.
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Begemot posted:If he felt like he earned it, he would probably be able to actually sit on his throne. Why do you think he doesn't/can't?
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Who knows. In his mind he might see himself as deserving of it. Like you said, he proved himself to Meti first. Though the significance of that might pale in comparison to future accomplishments by Maya and himself, he may still cling to that initial encounter. To me it's pretty obvious he thinks he's just as good as any of the other Demiurges. His problem is that they don't, and he can't stand being denied the recognition of his only peers.
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Who What Now posted:To me it's pretty obvious he thinks he's just as good as any of the other Demiurges. His problem is that they don't, and he can't stand being denied the recognition of his only peers. Same. Which is why he's working to destabilize them through Allison and let Jag make his move to kill them all.
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You know. I am starting to think Meti's training philosophy might be a bit problematic. But at least Incubus took her lessons to heart. "To master sword law you must become utterly saturated in death." Got it teacher, daily bathing in blood it is.
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I look forward to seeing Allison face off against Gog Agog if it ever happens, would be interesting to see how she defeats infinity
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It's obvious to me, she'll simply summon Ys-Voya.
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She's gonna headbutt every single individual worm.
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do you think solomon david can shave his head and braid his beard using ki rata techniques only
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He has such mastery of it his hair and beard never grow if he doesn't want them to.
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Lastgirl posted:I look forward to seeing Allison face off against Gog Agog if it ever happens, would be interesting to see how she defeats infinity Allison hasn't yet killed a demiurge and I'm not convinced she's going to.
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Shugojin posted:do you think solomon david can shave his head and braid his beard using ki rata techniques only It's an advanced 150,000 point technique.
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"Hero's journey that curdled" is such a fascinating description for a backstory, I can't wait to see where it goes.
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Drunk Theory posted:You know. I am starting to think Meti's training philosophy might be a bit problematic. But at least Incubus took her lessons to heart. I'm pretty sure that's by design.
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Man. Maybe all of Meti's stuff talks about her lovely female student because incubus did everything exactly like he was supposed to so there was nothing worth complaining about.
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Check that one out: What if you do it right... by doing it wrong?
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maybe, just maybe, the problem lies with the person screaming "you sentimental fool" at the person who asked them how to do their funeral
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IF METI BANS ME FOR HOLLERING AT THE FOOLS I WILL FACE YISUN AND WALK BACKWARDS INTO HELL
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wiegieman posted:maybe, just maybe, the problem lies with the person screaming "you sentimental fool" at the person who asked them how to do their funeral Diogenes was a pure and special boy and I will not have you besmirching his name like this!
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He's in no position to care.
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YaketySass posted:He's in no position to care. TBF he probably wouldn't have given a poo poo when he was
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I see no one complaining about the demon cart guys dying by exploding. So explosion death fetishes are cool but getting eaten by dogs is weird? Lol.
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Who What Now posted:Diogenes was a pure and special boy and I will not have you besmirching his name like this! Diogenes would be the first to tell you he was, while very special and dear to all of us, a horrible mangy weirdo who was a mistake to invite into one's home and lives. He will tell you that the same way a stray dog would, which is by pissing on things you care about and playing with his balls in public.
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reignonyourparade posted:Man. Maybe all of Meti's stuff talks about her lovely female student because incubus did everything exactly like he was supposed to so there was nothing worth complaining about. That's basically punishing him for being "the good one". Which is perfect.
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Meti: "I trained him wrong, as a joke."
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I'm not sure Meti's a believer in training people right at all.
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Cat Mattress posted:Meti: "I trained him wrong, as a joke." Meti would agree that a swordmaster is a real rear end in a top hat.
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Cat Mattress posted:Meti: "I trained him wrong, as a joke." Only a horrible person would ever want to master sword law. Incidentally, you make a perfect student.
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I don't think Incubus is Metis good student; part of her sword law is that to truly master it, you have to abandon everything except the single perfect cut you are performing. You shed thought of victory, your identity, even the concept of a next blow - the only thing that matters is the cut. Incubus is extremely into winning. I think that he is an able swordsman but fails to achieve that singular will, which is why Meti doesn't consider him a true apprentice. Maya apparently manages it, but it turns out that the mindset to subsume yourself in a single cut makes you lovely at anything else, which is why both her and Meti end up as unstoppable hobos.
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It's indeed curious that neither Meti nor Maya could take Meti's advice and open a noodle shop or anything else. Maybe they simply had too many potential enemies somewhere in the Multiverse and didn't want to risk building something up only for the next idiot looking for a fight to come destroy it?
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Turns out that once you've meditated non stop on the "everything is bullshit, reach heaven through violence" train you actually can't do anything good or wholesome with your life even if you can understand why that would be good.
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Maya got half of it right. I think this is the same sword she got way back when (and maybe the hilt she's still carrying?), so she at least derusted it for Incubus. Random Psalm: quote:iv. The lie of the small light ThatBasqueGuy fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Mar 31, 2019 |
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Ashcans posted:I don't think Incubus is Metis good student; part of her sword law is that to truly master it, you have to abandon everything except the single perfect cut you are performing. You shed thought of victory, your identity, even the concept of a next blow - the only thing that matters is the cut. Incubus is extremely into winning. I think that he is an able swordsman but fails to achieve that singular will, which is why Meti doesn't consider him a true apprentice. What I at least was saying wasn't necessarily that he was a "good" student, but that he may have done as he was instructed without complaint, and thus produced no real anecdotes to make their way into Meti's writings.
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reignonyourparade posted:What I at least was saying wasn't necessarily that he was a "good" student, but that he may have done as he was instructed without complaint, and thus produced no real anecdotes to make their way into Meti's writings. How do you know? Has Abaddon said so? Otherwise, we've been given one sample, which doesn't mean there won't be more.
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xcheopis posted:How do you know? Has Abaddon said so? Otherwise, we've been given one sample, which doesn't mean there won't be more. Do you know what the word "may" means?
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Benagain posted:Turns out that once you've meditated non stop on the "everything is bullshit, reach heaven through violence" train you actually can't do anything good or wholesome with your life even if you can understand why that would be good. I think it's more that this comic repeatedly emphasizes that being a good, righteous person and a great person are mutually exclusive endeavors.
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reignonyourparade posted:What I at least was saying wasn't necessarily that he was a "good" student, but that he may have done as he was instructed without complaint, and thus produced no real anecdotes to make their way into Meti's writings. Oh yea, that would make sense - he may have been the unremarkable failure, so he didn't get to feature in her writing.
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