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A Big Fuckin Hornet
Nov 1, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
check out brexit (and past)

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Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

skaboomizzy posted:

they were trying to make people register if they wanted to watch porn, right? that's pretty normal

This is the second porn law, the first one was in 2014 which I only remember because of the awesome face-sitting demonstrations outside parliament. Since then it's been Brexit.

They even forgot about austerity, being as they're spending more cash but it's seemingly disappearing between the "tax goes in" and "tax goes to councils" stage.

(They're stealing it).

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

quote:

Channel 4 News has apologised after its presenter Jon Snow said he had “never seen so many white people in one place”, referring to the pro-Brexit protesters who flooded the centre of London on Friday.

The 71-year-old frontman was broadcasting live from outside the Houses of Parliament when he made the unscripted remarks while wrapping up the programme.

Snow said: “It’s been the most extraordinary day. A day which has seen … I have never seen so many white people in one place, it’s an extraordinary story. There are people everywhere, there are crowds everywhere.”

The remarks drew criticism online from some viewers who described Snow’s comments as unnecessary.

In a statement, Channel 4 said: “This was an unscripted observation at the very end of a long week of fast-moving Brexit developments.


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“Jon has covered major events such as this over a long career and this was a spontaneous comment reflecting his observation that in a London demonstration of that size, ethnic minorities seemed to be significantly under-represented. We regret any offence caused by his comment.”

The British state media, ladies and gentlemen.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Randler posted:

The British state media, ladies and gentlemen.

That's perfectly reasonable, they didn't really apologise. Probably couldn't see due to snow blindness.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Stoatbringer posted:

But yes, getting May and the tories out would be great for many reasons other than just brexit. But whoever won, all they're going to be doing is yet more endless Bexit-related stuff for months if not years and dealing with the fallout from whatever eventually happens, one way or the other.

https://twitter.com/andrewyang/status/1092143382078599171

Brexit isn't bad for totemic reasons, it's bad because it will hit the working class like a ton of bricks and the working class are the entire point of everything. A Corbyn government making decisions would help the working class whilst a tory government making decisions would hurt them, saying "Aha but brexit will hurt them regardless of whose in charge" is yeah no poo poo sherlock but it's a matter of degrees and harm limitation.

And "the right wing/liberal press will blame Corbyn for Brexit" argument is dumb, they will blame Corbyn for literally everything anyway because all they want is to keep us dirty plebs out of power. We need to get in power, we need a general election to achieve that, we need to fight it and win then fight and win every election after that too. Left wing Labour governance is the only thing that matters.

Gripweed posted:

If no deal happens and it's as bad as people predict, would any of the political parties support a Breturn?

Yeah but only the Lib Dems would immediately. Labour and honestly probably the Tories too would start prepping for it but wouldn't publicly mention it for at least a single term. The problem is that we are currently in the EU on special cushy conditions, the EU would presumably not be willing to replicate those nice terms when we go back to them hat in hand wanting back in and that's gonna cause even more tension.


Why are people against the porn ban again? It's probably not a good thing if 13 year olds are learning what sex is from the porn industry.

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Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Vitamin P posted:

Why are people against the porn ban again? It's probably not a good thing if 13 year olds are learning what sex is from the porn industry.

they don't want to be on a boob-liker registry

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Ew no Yang in here plz

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Porn pass sounds good to me cuz my fetish is telling other ppl my fetishes

oh god its happening right now unh

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Vitamin P posted:

Why are people against the porn ban again? It's probably not a good thing if 13 year olds are learning what sex is from the porn industry.

If your kids have hit puberty and you've not taught them about sex you've done a pretty piss poor job as a parent. That's a terrible argument. A better one would be, why aren't we funding sex education better for the kids of parents that are crap at it.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

because charities fill the gap, duh!

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

cargo cult posted:

how did ppl this dumb ever rule anything serious question

the first continent they showed up to exploit had a mass die-off kill 90%+ of its entire population because the english, dutch, and spanish were so loving full of pathogens from loving sheep and cows for a thousand years


the rest snowballed from there

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
I used to occasionally read Private Eye but gave up because it got a bit depressing, however, now I try to avoide every and all forms of news because over the past 5 years politicians in this country have given up any pretense of attempting to govern the country, in favour of just shovelling cash into their pockets blatantly.

420 Gank Mid posted:

the first continent they showed up to exploit had a mass die-off kill 90%+ of its entire population because the english, dutch, and spanish were so loving full of pathogens from loving sheep and cows for a thousand years


the rest snowballed from there

Ha ha ha. you make it sound like it was somehow accidental.

Ulf
Jul 15, 2001

FOUR COLORS
ONE LOVE
Nap Ghost
Not enough of you are noticing the wattle on left :stare:

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


I feel like with the option of "vote for deal, or face to electionshed", may's deal should finally squeak by. Is this an unreasonable thought? It feels like theres finally a threat they actually care about on the table and will jump in line.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Tom Guycot posted:

I feel like with the option of "vote for deal, or face to electionshed", may's deal should finally squeak by. Is this an unreasonable thought? It feels like theres finally a threat they actually care about on the table and will jump in line.

The election is an empty threat, she can't pull it off. Nothing has changed, and it'll fail the next time too.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


yeah its just pissed off her own party even more, and theyre saying theyre going to block another election.

efb with the link but yeah

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Tom Guycot posted:

I feel like with the option of "vote for deal, or face to electionshed", may's deal should finally squeak by. Is this an unreasonable thought? It feels like theres finally a threat they actually care about on the table and will jump in line.

bercow has been quite insistent that she can't keep bringing the same bill forward again without significant change, and the EU has ruled out significant change

this latest fudge was literally her leaving half the bill in the wind, which let it get to a vote on procedural grounds. the fixed-term parliaments act means that she cannot make this a confidence vote. even if she gets past bercow, i can totally see much of parliament simply not believing her threat because she's been lying about this constantly for months

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

May would then be forced to secure an election by backing a no-confidence vote in her own government, which only requires a simple majority of MPs.

lmao

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER


the punchline here is that, depending somewhat on the arithmetic, she might not even be able to do that

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



mays final act being to push no confidence in her own government is so good it must be historically inevitable

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

mays final act being to push no confidence in her own government is so good it must be historically inevitable

brexit means brexit

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

as will her failure to get that vote passed

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Malcolm XML posted:

brexit means brexit

dental plan

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

marktheando posted:

dental plan

Theresa needs brexit

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:

Ooh, the "revoke article 50" petition is like 3000 signatures away from 6 million now. It's slowed right down but is still ticking along.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
She could avoid a no confidence vote by just using a simple majority to repeal the FTPA and introduce legislation making dissolving parliament a prerogative power again.

That was in the Tory manifesto anyway, so it has the added bonus of actually giving her a technical win at something.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Bryter posted:

She could avoid a no confidence vote by just using a simple majority to repeal the FTPA and introduce legislation making dissolving parliament a prerogative power again.

That was in the Tory manifesto anyway, so it has the added bonus of actually giving her a technical win at something.

If that'll lead back to her deal, that'd be a hell of a push to get the DUP on that. Being as they loving hate it. Without them she's hosed without rebel labour support.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Hexyflexy posted:

If that'll lead back to her deal, that'd be a hell of a push to get the DUP on that. Being as they loving hate it. Without them she's hosed without rebel labour support.

It would lead to her being able to call an election without requiring 2/3 support in the commons so it's hard to see why Labour wouldn't be for it.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


so just hypothetically, what if there are no votes to pass anything at all

can't dissolve government, can't brexit, can't not brexit, etc

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Jazerus posted:

so just hypothetically, what if there are no votes to pass anything at all

can't dissolve government, can't brexit, can't not brexit, etc

the EU starts treating the UK as a non-EU country on April 12th. effectively no deal

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Jazerus posted:

so just hypothetically, what if there are no votes to pass anything at all

can't dissolve government, can't brexit, can't not brexit, etc

you can vote again in 2022

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Jazerus posted:

so just hypothetically, what if there are no votes to pass anything at all

can't dissolve government, can't brexit, can't not brexit, etc
I think it's just a look at the future of all democracy. Everyone is defining their beliefs on what they don't want, rather than what they want.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

the EU starts treating the UK as a non-EU country on April 12th. effectively no deal

wasn't yesterday the deadline for this, so it's going to happen regardless?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


SKULL.GIF posted:

wasn't yesterday the deadline for this, so it's going to happen regardless?

no, that was the UK's old deadline. they voted to extend it to april 12th

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

no, that was the UK's old deadline. they voted to extend it to april 12th
They did? That vote was actually successful, in between all the no votes for everything else?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I thought the EU extended it unilaterally

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Hentai Jihadist posted:

I thought the EU extended it unilaterally

parliament had to approve the extension iirc

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!

I have had this god drat song stuck in my head all day

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
The EU extended it and I think it domestic law was updated via statutory instrument, so no need for a vote

e: nope, ignore that, they did hold a vote on the SI, it passed the commons 441 to 105.

Bryter has issued a correction as of 02:32 on Mar 31, 2019

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