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Hoshi posted:I'm really liking Yiik btw <3 You're a sweet person. It helps that half my job is being sociable so people will like me and give me money to hang out with them and tell them how they hosed up. Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass is next and that's an actual good game and will make all of us cry.
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Helpful tip for old lawyers. Don't take criminal cases to help a friend if you don't understand how sentencing works. At least young lawyers know we're dumb.
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 18:26 |
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I love seeing old lawyers bloviate about nonsense and get smacked down by judges
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 19:12 |
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Tokelau All Star posted:I love seeing old lawyers bloviate about nonsense and get smacked down by judges Especially because its invariably preceded by them trying to bigtime you. No man dont care how many stripes your suit has or how nice the jag you came to court is, you're stuck here in shitsville with me now
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 20:03 |
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Anyone ever deal with a relativity database? Gotta get files prepared for one.
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 21:12 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Anyone ever deal with a relativity database? Gotta get files prepared for one. Only from the user doc review side. Jesus did that suck.
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I’ve got two cases with hundreds of documents/images each and have to prep them for it. I’ve got two weeks to make it happen, though. I don’t really wanna bug the Kirkland & Ellis paralegal too much with questions about it.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I’ve got two cases with hundreds of documents/images each and have to prep them for it. I’ve got two weeks to make it happen, though. I don’t really wanna bug the Kirkland & Ellis paralegal too much with questions about it. bug the K&E paralegal about it. relativity and other doc review stuff is complicated and big firms have specialized people handle it. why in god's name is that being handed off to you? not like "oh handling it is beneath you as a lawyer", its that handing off something like that to a lawyer sounds as well-thought-out as handing over some electrical work you need done in your home to a lawyer
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 21:50 |
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Yes, bug the poo poo out of the biglaw paralegal. It will speed that poo poo up for you and the paralegal will bill time for it. You both win.
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 21:54 |
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Does your firm not have a paralegal? Adding doc review bullshit to relativity is 100% a paralegal job even if you're at a tiny-rear end shop and have no support staff. In that case you probably aren't even doing relativity by yourself, you're contracting with a litigation support company to provide you with a relativity platform, in which case get them on the phone and ask them what questions you need to be asking the K&E paralegal. Or better yet setup a conference call between your relativity person and K&E. Basically what I'm saying is the technical bullshit associated with relativity is not a lawyer task.
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evilweasel posted:bug the K&E paralegal about it. relativity and other doc review stuff is complicated and big firms have specialized people handle it. why in god's name is that being handed off to you? not like "oh handling it is beneath you as a lawyer", its that handing off something like that to a lawyer sounds as well-thought-out as handing over some electrical work you need done in your home to a lawyer This is related to BP PTO #67 clients. We have a specific list of poo poo we have to provide them. The amended order did nothing to really clarify. Lucky for me we only have two clients left and not hundreds like some other firms. The email replies I’ve got from the paralegal were pretty short and not really helpful in any way, so I dunno if they’re going to provide any assistance even if I ask. I’ll shoot him another email if I can’t figure it out with a little bit of research this weekend. From what I understand I just need to make a master index file in .csv format that has the information about the various documents. It’s my job because it’s my job now. My boss is in his mid 70s. He’s not gonna have a clue and our secretary has never used it either. The guy I replaced said he used it once during his 2L year of lawschool during a digital discovery class, but that was in 2013. The court doesn’t give a gently caress if we figure it out properly, and I don’t think K&E does either because it just means that our claims get dismissed and they/BP can focus on the remaining few hundred cases instead. I’m used to sql and am familiar with similar databases. I’ve never used any type of document database, though, and have to throw myself into a crash course this weekend. If I can’t figure it out, I need to tell the boss Monday so we can quickly get someone in to help make it happen. Thankfully my predecessor got the clients to submit everything to us in advance so I just have to summarize, catalogue, and submit to K&E by the 15th.
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Arcturas posted:Does your firm not have a paralegal? Adding doc review bullshit to relativity is 100% a paralegal job even if you're at a tiny-rear end shop and have no support staff. In that case you probably aren't even doing relativity by yourself, you're contracting with a litigation support company to provide you with a relativity platform, in which case get them on the phone and ask them what questions you need to be asking the K&E paralegal. Or better yet setup a conference call between your relativity person and K&E. We do not have a paralegal. I’ll have to see if I can find one who we can grab to help us with this if it’s as difficult as the thread has made it seem.
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 23:06 |
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For your entertainment, the Alex Jones depo tapes: part 1 part 2 transcript
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# ? Mar 29, 2019 23:59 |
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Relativity sucks and I’m glad I never have to deal with that bullshit again.
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Toona the Cat posted:Relativity sucks and I’m glad I never have to deal with that bullshit again. I remember quite clearly talking to one of our paralegals when I first started, who (accurately) stated “Relativity sucks but it’s still better than the other options.”
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Kalman posted:I remember quite clearly talking to one of our paralegals when I first started, who (accurately) stated “Relativity sucks but it’s still better than the other options.” I thought Nextpoint was solid and easy to use.
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# ? Mar 30, 2019 02:31 |
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Dat feeling when the Court of Appeals grants your writ of mandamus.
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# ? Mar 30, 2019 02:56 |
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Reminder that most legal software is created by people who failed at at least 2 careers. They couldn't figure out what to do after undergrad so they decided to go to law school. Then they failed in the legal profession and decided they could fill a niche and sell software to law firms.
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# ? Mar 30, 2019 02:56 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:I’ve got two cases with hundreds of documents/images each and have to prep them for it. I’ve got two weeks to make it happen, though. I don’t really wanna bug the Kirkland & Ellis paralegal too much with questions about it. Please bug the poo poo out of them. Kirkland exists solely to have infinite resources - if they're on the case, utilize it.
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# ? Mar 30, 2019 19:54 |
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I think Relativity is great and have never had a problem. What issues are there? Maybe different versions? I can build any tags or searches that I want. Anything I've wanted to get done, there has been a way. I've dealt with some other lovely platforms and Relativity has blown them away.
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Fuzzie Dunlop posted:I think Relativity is great and have never had a problem. What issues are there? Maybe different versions? I can build any tags or searches that I want. Anything I've wanted to get done, there has been a way. I've dealt with some other lovely platforms and Relativity has blown them away. Relativity developer spotted!
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# ? Mar 30, 2019 20:30 |
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Got seated at the Goon table at Lote's wedding. Unamuno and his wife are cool people and remind me to message you when I'm in town December 19.
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GrandmaParty posted:Got seated at the Goon table at Lote's wedding. Unamuno and his wife are cool people and remind me to message you when I'm in town December 19. Was this in New Orleans? If so I hope you had fun! If not I still hope you had fun but it would’ve been better in New Orleans.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Was this in New Orleans? If so I hope you had fun! If not I still hope you had fun but it would’ve been better in New Orleans. It was Dallas or I would have requested you take me for a drink somewhere.
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GrandmaParty posted:It was Dallas or I would have requested you take me for a drink somewhere. And I would have done it. Any time.
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Mr. Nice! posted:We do not have a paralegal. I’ll have to see if I can find one who we can grab to help us with this if it’s as difficult as the thread has made it seem. I’ve set up a few Relativity reviews and always relied on the outside litigation support staff for the back-end set up and document intake. My sense is that it’s complicated and wouldn’t be easy to learn in a short amount of time. I would ask K&E paralegal and also see if your firm or K&E can coordinate with litigation support staff. Once the docs are loaded it’s pretty straightforward to customize the review environment and create searches and otherwise segment the documents on your own. Feel free to PM but I won’t be useful for back-end stuff.
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I’m not loading docs or anything. Just have to make sure everything is in a format so they can load it when I send it over. I’m gonna email them in the morning.
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# ? Apr 1, 2019 05:41 |
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Mmm a fortnight of exposure to the Argentine legal system really drives home how horrific our jail and prison policies are. They had a prison inspection and labor union run entirely by inmates and a fully functional branch of the University of Burnos Aires operating in one of their detention facilities (no difference between prison and jail there) where guards could not enter without a court order. Union heads actually had a meeting with a deputy justice minister to discuss prison overcrowding and state their hands for reform. It was genuinely impressive and inspirational.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Anyone ever deal with a relativity database? Gotta get files prepared for one. Two things are simultaneously true about Relativity: -it is a cruel and unfeeling monstrosity, designed from the ground up to enhance the suffering of its users -it is by far the best doc review software I've ever dealt with
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GrandmaParty posted:Got seated at the Goon table at Lote's wedding. Unamuno and his wife are cool people and remind me to message you when I'm in town December 19. You got it, bud. Great to meet y'all too. Goon tables are the best tables.
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Soothing Vapors posted:Two things are simultaneously true about Relativity: The democracy of doc review software.
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# ? Apr 1, 2019 16:55 |
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Made rookie mistake on my LSAT: got stuck solving a logic game instead of moving on, so by the time the 5 minutes call went out, I was still on question 9. I'll definitely be retaking it in June, but now I wonder whether I should cancel Saturday's score altogether.
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Ephemeron posted:Made rookie mistake on my LSAT: got stuck solving a logic game instead of moving on, so by the time the 5 minutes call went out, I was still on question 9. Maybe you should post the score when you get it and quit being such a bitch if you want to make it in this line of work edit: and quit loving up your standardized tests like a layman dipshit
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Ephemeron posted:Made rookie mistake on my LSAT: got stuck solving a logic game instead of moving on, so by the time the 5 minutes call went out, I was still on question 9. I think that’s a big sign that the bullshit of lawschool and the practice of law is not for you. Take it as a positive and do something else with your life that will make you more money, provide more job satisfaction, and won’t turn you into a substance abuser with a higher than average risk of suicide.
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While that's a great idea in general, I fear that it might be too late to make that pivot in my case, seeing as how I've been practicing law for nine years now (not in a common law jurisdiction, though, hence the need for LSAT and extra years of schooling). As for substance abuse and suicide risks, I hope that getting out of Russia will help with both.
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Ephemeron posted:As for substance abuse and suicide risks, I hope that getting out of Russia will help with both. Couldn't hurt, but I wouldn't count on it
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Ephemeron posted:While that's a great idea in general, I fear that it might be too late to make that pivot in my case, seeing as how I've been practicing law for nine years now (not in a common law jurisdiction, though, hence the need for LSAT and extra years of schooling). As for substance abuse and suicide risks, I hope that getting out of Russia will help with both. Did you change your name or did we get another Russian lawyer?
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nm posted:Did you change your name or did we get another Russian lawyer? Looks like meat is back on the menu
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nm posted:Did you change your name or did we get another Russian lawyer? (Hi, I'm Eph. I mostly do IP-related stuff.)
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Ephemeron posted:The latter! uh huh so what'd you do to piss putin off and why are you in hiding, Alexey
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