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in the context of that specific provocation it's on par with the discourse preceding it.
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maybe. i didn't read it so dunno, i'm just saying in general
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I think that’s the core of the issue for most people, more so than any action or inaction on his part. So it goes I don't like him because of his actions.
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The conception thereof, surely Healthy self-crit would render distinctions we’d hope to set between ourselves and krell simple self serving delusion
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Apr 2, 2019 20:41
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I think snide ad hominem attacks on a person's mental health are icky and belong exactly nowhere near the game of mafia and that "this is actually fine because it's in a context of other people doing it" is not a defense
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I don’t know how to interpret “icky” in this context Is it a halfhearted way of saying “bad” or just something you aren’t particularly comfortable with In any case I think Ecco would be the first to say krell was right, in that mafia brought out the worst in her personality and that’s why she left Sometimes speaking truth to power ends up benefiting both parties
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As a rule people are generally responsible for their own actions and Ecco being bad or good doesn't mean Krell is not bad. lol. Not that I know Krell but that seems like a bad post.
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Apr 2, 2019 20:49
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Toalpaz posted:As a rule people are generally responsible for their own actions and Ecco being bad or good doesn't mean Krell is not bad. lol. Not that I know Krell but that seems like a bad post. Well, it's in the character of my point. People single out the marginalized and make their behaviors a rule while excusing members of the in-group, one of whom triggered this scenario in the first place. "krell" as understood here is a boogeyman constructed of every personally distasteful thing he's ever said, and projections from players who never encountered him with things he hasn't done, rather than a full and fair picture of the individual. Otoh, a similar record from one of the good ones is minimized and viewed as out of character
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Apr 2, 2019 20:52
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I get the point you're making taste and I think that's valid. Ultimately I think it's just best to refrain from any kind of personally derogatory statement about other players, because they matter very little in this context, that's why I cut several paragraphs from this post.
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Sometimes I want to tell people to go gently caress themselves but instead I just post "OK" and move on.
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Apr 2, 2019 21:32
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Max posted:Sometimes I want to tell people to go gently caress themselves but instead I just post "OK" and move on. Yeah but since we all know what it means does that really make it any better?
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Hal Incandenza posted:Yeah but since we all know what it means does that really make it any better? Hmm, that is actually a good point.
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Somberbrero posted:I get the point you're making taste and I think that's valid. Ultimately I think it's just best to refrain from any kind of personally derogatory statement about other players, because they matter very little in this context, that's why I cut several paragraphs from this post. Agreed. It’s why I made an effort to approach this conversation by positioning a player viewed negatively and asserting the positive than anyone in the opposite situation Self crit as a community isn’t about poo poo talking anyone, it’s about recognizing general trends in the negative and without assigning blame looking to what we can do better
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Apr 2, 2019 21:38
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Somberbrero posted:I get the point you're making taste and I think that's valid. Ultimately I think it's just best to refrain from any kind of personally derogatory statement about other players, because they matter very little in this context, that's why I cut several paragraphs from this post. I hope busb never gets to see the original, drat dude
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Apr 2, 2019 21:40
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If Krell isn't calling you stupid or insane, he's probably your scumbuddy.
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Let's just all agree that I'm the best and should be ruler of you little fleshlings. I'll wait.
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Let's just all agree that I'm the best and should be ruler of you little fleshlings. Sure.
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Max posted:Sure. *Is glorious*
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Let's just all agree that I'm the best and should be ruler of you little fleshlings. OK
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GASP! EMPTYGASP!
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Bernstrike posted:I hope busb never gets to see the original, drat dude I won't stand for this personal attack on my character!!!! Ban birbstriek pls
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I’d like to add an addendum clarifying I wasn’t speaking about auspol players, who shouldn’t be held to human standards
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I don’t know how to interpret “icky” in this context It’s me saying it’s disgusting and stigmatizing, but without using those words so as to lower the connoted strength of the offense to the appropriate level. I’d be shocked if you didn’t know that full well, of course, but I’ll allow that you could hypothetically be asking for clarification in earnest.
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I used to get pretty hot when people attacked me personally in mafia. Now, I try look beyond the attack at what is behind it and brush it off. I think there’s good scum tells when people get ugly. The rawness is easier to identify as genuine or not.
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I’d like to add an addendum clarifying I wasn’t speaking about auspol players, who shouldn’t be held to human standards Thank you Jonathan Fisk. I didn't know I didn't count as a human being for living in another country. It's good to know these things tho
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:GASP! Sorry perhaps you misunderstood my intent. I have the same feelings for your rise to power as I do about former President Martin Van Buren, who was also known as Old Kinderhook so you may not have realized it was a term of endearment
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Apr 2, 2019 22:46
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We aren't all monsters like Max you know
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busb posted:Thank you Jonathan Fisk. I didn't know I didn't count as a human being for living in another country. It's good to know these things tho we’ve ascended from the weakness of old world flesh into a new, higher-energy form of consciousness
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Hal Incandenza posted:Sorry perhaps you misunderstood my intent. I have the same feelings for your rise to power as I do about former President Martin Van Buren, who was also known as Old Kinderhook so you may not have realized it was a term of endearment I was emptyquoting this because I heard about Martin Van Buren and his nicknames on a podcast this week. One of his other nicknames was “Little Magician.”
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Hal Incandenza posted:We aren't all monsters like Max you know I imagine it would be insufferable if that was the case.
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PMush Perfect posted:If Krell isn't calling you stupid or insane, he's probably your scumbuddy. nah if Krell is your scum buddy he will never post in scumdoc, except to threaten the team with mass scumclaim if they dare submit actions for him when he's totally absent again
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quote:vig vigg or vidge?
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Vic
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obviously not /dʒ/
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I like how that quote was cherry picked to make Krell seem bad when it was a response to Ecco calling him a worthless piece of poo poo. I'd respond to a personal attack with a personal attack too.
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GeneX posted:It’s me saying it’s disgusting and stigmatizing, but without using those words so as to lower the connoted strength of the offense to the appropriate level. I’d be shocked if you didn’t know that full well, of course, but I’ll allow that you could hypothetically be asking for clarification in earnest. I try to speak precisely on things that matter to me. I haven’t used that specific word in any serious context ever so I don’t know what it would mean to you. I do appreciate the clarification.
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busb posted:Thank you Jonathan Fisk. I didn't know I didn't count as a human being for living in another country. It's good to know these things tho Aboriginals are fine, it’s the rest you have to watch
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CapitalistPig posted:I like how that quote was cherry picked to make Krell seem bad when it was a response to Ecco calling him a worthless piece of poo poo. I'd respond to a personal attack with a personal attack too. As a response to another person calling him a piece of poo poo, I don't like it, no.
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I used to get really angry and call other players retarded. Not proud of that poo poo. Lot more fun to be chill!
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