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RevKrule posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t433PEQGErc Looks interesting.
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RevKrule posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t433PEQGErc I have no idea what I expected from this trailer but it wasn't this. Not that it's a bad thing, in fact I quite liked it.
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Apr 3, 2019 14:29
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Yeah what the poo poo, that was supposed to be bad.
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Apr 3, 2019 14:33
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Rhyno posted:Oh, I was talking about the scene where Yondu gives the pep talk sorry. My biggest complaint with Guardians 2 is that they used the wrong part of The Chain for that scene.
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Apr 3, 2019 14:34
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RevKrule posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t433PEQGErc Why is this such a good trailer, how are they hitting all right marks with such a terrible concept?
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Rhyno posted:Yeah what the poo poo, that was supposed to be bad. I never thought it would be bad, at least after we heard of the people involved. Just didn't expect it to be that.
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Apr 3, 2019 14:35
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howe_sam posted:My biggest complaint with Guardians 2 is that they used the wrong part of The Chain for that scene. I disagree, the power build up works perfectly with the portion of the song they used. It doesn't hurt that it's one of my all time favorite songs and one of the first concerts I ever attended.
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Apr 3, 2019 14:42
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X-O posted:I have no idea what I expected from this trailer but it wasn't this. Not that it's a bad thing, in fact I quite liked it. Yeah, I watched the trailer with a "fine, lets see how lovely this is going to be" and finished with a "what the gently caress? This might actually be a good movie?" I'm not sold on it, but I appreciate the approach they're going for and hope it works.
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It's "bad' from a comicbook continuity and canon perspective I guess but as a movie it looks good as hell.
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Apr 3, 2019 14:52
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Well, Scorcese's involved and while I didn't see The King of Comedy (which this looks to be highly influenced by), I also get some Taxi Driver vibes of a loner who's pissed off at life in the city and goes nuts. I just don't know yet how much we're supposed to empathize with the Joker.
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It's standalone and not involved in the greater DCEU. Plus it fits with the varied Joker origins.
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zoux posted:It's "bad' from a comicbook continuity and canon perspective I guess but as a movie it looks good as hell. Yeah, I'm already seeing a few comments of people being not OK with not having a Batman, or how it doesn't seem to connect to anything from the other movies. Although the funniest comments are the kiddos happy that it's gonna be  DARK like BvS or Deadpool. Can't wait for their disappointment if it's actually more of an artsy thriller than non-stop explosions and violence.Edit: I'm actually gonna watch it because I'm dead curious, and it seems to be - if the trailer isn't lying hard to the audience- my kind of movie. Desperado Bones fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Apr 3, 2019 |
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zoux posted:It's "bad' from a comicbook continuity and canon perspective I guess but as a movie it looks good as hell. I think the key to most good movies based on a comic book is to jettison the bullshit from the comics. The problems are when the fanbois try to hard to tie everything back in. There are exceptions I'm sure (Spiderverse).
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Desperado Bones posted:Yeah, I'm already seeing a few comments of people being not OK with not having a Batman, or how it doesn't seem to connect to anything from the other movies. Do we know it doesn’t have a Batman? I assumed that’s what “It’s getting crazy out there” was alluding to.
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Rhyno posted:Yeah what the poo poo, that was supposed to be bad. Man I knew it was gonna be good from the teaser. I mean I don't know if it's legit good, but it's sure pretty and well acted.
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Phylodox posted:Do we know it doesn’t have a Batman? I assumed that’s what “It’s getting crazy out there” was alluding to. Bruce Wayne parents are alive and he is a child in this movie (I think he is the kid in the trailer). So technically he is there. I guess people don't like that Batman, the vigilante, won't be a cataclysmic for Joker's origin. Edit: Although if we get a proto-Batman I'm gonna be ok with it 
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kaesarsosei posted:I think the key to most good movies based on a comic book is to jettison the bullshit from the comics. The problems are when the fanbois try to hard to tie everything back in. Oh I'm fer it as hell I just think you're gonna see complaints about nailing down a Joker origin, making him Buster Bluth, making him too old and a bunch of other stuff that doesn't really matter to the quality of the movie. The Gamers Rise Up crew isn't going to be happy about the soyboying of their poster child.
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Lurdiak posted:Man I knew it was gonna be good from the teaser. I mean I don't know if it's legit good, but it's sure pretty and well acted. I know that's the case with a lot of trailers, but it feels like this could have been a really amazing short fan-film.
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I like the idea that to get a good Joker on screen you have to delete Batman.
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Rhyno posted:I like the idea that to get a good Joker on screen you have to delete Batman. It’s an already demonstrably untrue idea, though.
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Rhyno posted:I like the idea that to get a good Joker on screen you have to delete Batman. I mean the Joker on screen with the least amount of Batman was Jared Leto. Others with lots of Batman include Heath Ledger and Caesar Romero. So you're very very wrong.
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I'd like to see the Joker just randomly decide one day "I'm an Aquaman villain now, I'm going to do ocean crimes"
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RevKrule posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t433PEQGErc Eh, doesn't look too bad i guess
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Phylodox posted:Do we know it doesn’t have a Batman? I assumed that’s what “It’s getting crazy out there” was alluding to. It inexplicably has Man-Bat instead.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I'd like to see the Joker just randomly decide one day "I'm an Aquaman villain now, I'm going to do ocean crimes" https://twitter.com/Brandon_Bird/status/1113435799188430848
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X-O posted:I mean the Joker on screen with the least amount of Batman was Jared Leto. Others with lots of Batman include Heath Ledger and Caesar Romero. So you're very very wrong. I don't think what I wanted came through with that first post. I mean the idea of the Joker hasn't really worked for me in previous films. This looks to remove Batman from the equation (unless he's actually in this film) entirely and could be the answer to what I want out of a film Joker.
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drat it my initial post was going to be Cyborg and cyber crimes and I changed my mind
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Rhyno posted:I don't think what I wanted came through with that first post. I mean the idea of the Joker hasn't really worked for me in previous films. This looks to remove Batman from the equation (unless he's actually in this film) entirely and could be the answer to what I want out of a film Joker. I guess in that respect I'm lucky in that I don't like the Joker at all and the only times I do is if someone playing him makes him compelling in some way.
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Joker’s mom’s name in Joker is Penny. Batman’s got a giant penny in the Batcave. Just saying...
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I'd like to see the Joker just randomly decide one day "I'm an Aquaman villain now, I'm going to do ocean crimes" The Clownfish Of Crime
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Phylodox posted:Joker’s mom’s name in Joker is Penny. Batman’s got a giant penny in the Batcave. Just saying... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXKYQvP0zQ0
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site posted:Yondus he may have been your father boy but he wasn't your daddy is pretty top tier imo The most heartwarming and iconic MCU moment is clearly at the end of Ragnarok whenThor unleashes Surtur and Hulk immediately attacks him. Thor shouts at Hulk to stop and Hulk, all confused and indignant goes, “Big monster!?”
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I am very curious about this. There's often a hint of pathos and tragedy to the Joker, which is something that Heath Ledger especially brought out in his performance with those tortured eyes of his. However, even in those takes where the Joker is a tragic figure, there's also no attempt to make his actions any less than monstrous or deranged; in The Dark Knight he tries to murder hundreds of people, and Killing Joke obviously has the infamous shooting scene. He never steps into anti-hero territory, he's always a villain. In contrast, this take seems to be almost setting him up as a folk hero. That's interesting but I wonder how it will play. After all, despite always being a villain before, plenty of odd souls on the internet have made him a de-facto hero, at least in their own minds, and sort of embraced the Joker's psychopathic nihilism as a philosophy. A film that makes him into a genuine heroic figure, or at least someone who the audience is cued to root for and empathise with, will run a tight-rope I think between condemning and celebrating that sort of edge-lord nihilism that he can represent, and also making him someone to empathises with and even care for but not absolving him of any evil acts. That said, who knows what kind of take this is gonna be. The folk hero feel might be me just misreading things, and I've yet to see King of Comedy so there may be a context I'm missing. It's a cool trailer and Phoenix looks great, as does the imagery and tone. Mostly I'm just glad that this may spell the end of Jared Leto's take, because to me, that truly was one of the most uninspired and lame versions of the character I've yet seen.
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I don't have any faith Joker will be good because the same guy that directed the Hangover movies is directing this.
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It looks alright. It'll probably be well-acted. I continue to be confused by just how much Batman-less Gotham media we have. Gavok posted:Kraglin's reaction to Yondu's funeral is high up there for me. Also, with Guardians, the scene of the team one-by-one agreeing to die alongside Quill for the greater good while Rocket looks on in confusion. On the same note in Ragnarok, Hiddleston does a lot of good with Loki's facial expressions. His soft smile when Thor is telling the story of when he transformed into a snake and bit him. His look of subtle shock when Thor says "Loki, I thought the world of you" right before Get Help.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I'd like to see the Joker just randomly decide one day "I'm an Aquaman villain now, I'm going to do ocean crimes" That's what happens in the Injustice games. One day he decides that he's done loving around with Batman so he heads over to Metropolis to gently caress with Superman.
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Codependent Poster posted:I don't have any faith Joker will be good because the same guy that directed the Hangover movies is directing this. That's not really fair. He also directed Starsky and Hutch. Seriously though we've seen comedy guys turn into good directors for other genres plenty of times over the years. The Russos? Adam McKay? Jordan Peele?
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X-O posted:That's not really fair. He also directed Starsky and Hutch. Yeah but they made good comedies. The Hangover 3 is one of the worst and most unpleasant films I've ever seen.
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David D. Davidson posted:That's what happens in the Injustice games. One day he decides that he's done loving around with Batman so he heads over to Metropolis to gently caress with Superman. Did that in the comics too. Kidnapped Lois, Jimmy, and Perry, and buried them alive in lead coffins. While taunting Superman that he would never be able to find them in time, Superman arrived to apprehend him, telling him that he'd already freed them. Joker was shocked, until Supes pointed out that he just used his x-ray vision, because he can see lead just fine. X-O posted:
From the looks of IMDB, he's also done a couple of docs too.
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Hmm says here this guy directed some Troma schlock, and Scooby Doo 1 and 2. Don't have high hopes for this one. Incidentally in the innocent days of the late 90's me and some buddies went to great lengths to find a copy of Tromeo and Juliet because we heard about the puppet penis monster and that sort of thing was still shocking to pre-internet teenagers. It was, ah, not worth it.
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