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Daikatana Ritsu posted:It absolutely didn't come about from disabled people since they were too busy playing Sekiro to complain about it online. Journalists are bad at games and this conversation comes up literally every time a souls game comes out, which is interesting since plenty of tough games never catch their pants on fire quite like it. Dead Cells won awards just a few months ago and that conversation never came up. You're straight up wrong and an rear end in a top hat to boot, but stay woke king. 👌😂 I'm not sure how I should respond to this since even you seem to realize it makes no sense
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EmmyOk posted:A bigger and easier thing a lot of games should have as standard are visibility and auditory options in menus etc They should! That needs to become more of a standard.
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trying to jack off posted:going to read the patty k articel and then debate it on these very forums thank you patrick 
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video games are like the only artistic medium that allows your audience to tailor the experience to themselves, so i think creators playing to that strength is generally a good call. but at the same time, the audience is fully capable of playing to that strength by hacking their ps4, or grabbing someone elses save file, or running cheatengine or a mod or a trainer. its fine to criticize it for lacking the explicit easy mode option, but its also not some impossible wall that cant be mitigated
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Sekiro also has in game difficulty options, Easy and Normal (demon bell)
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In Training posted:Sekiro also has in game difficulty options, Easy and Normal (demon bell) you can also use stealth instakills, you can run away from or past most minibosses, use the level to your advantage, explore to find more heals, pop consumables, grind for upgrade materials and skill points, practice with the undying guy, etc. its really not as inflexible as ppl say. but most of the criticism ive seen was from stubborn people who dont want to learn how to play the game as intended, so who knows
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Apr 4, 2019 15:28
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I ran past a lot of minibosses simply because theyre scary looking...dont even wanna learn what that guys deal is
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Apr 4, 2019 15:34
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Cuphead needed an easy mode for the tutorial apparently.
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This gamer thinks that accessibility options and easy mode aren't the same thing. Subtitles or braille or whatever doesn't gently caress up a movie or book, but if they don't help you understand it then maybe your not meant to. And no one ever got mad about that. I don't know if this Games fucktard is even siding with Game's Too Hard journalism at this point or just picking a fight because someone brought up disabled gamers on youtube but if so, gently caress you man. You wouldn't suck Patrick Klepek's dick if he complained about James Joyce not having a Normie mode for Finnegan's Wake or whatever.
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Apr 4, 2019 17:14
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Squeezy Farm posted:thank you patrick Sad bro. I Saw The Kantent!!! Yeah. Sure. Get carried you small, weirdly mustached little bitch. The Smash community would have you tarred and feathered if you pulled this poo poo at Tampa Nationals.
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Du. Du Läng. Du Läng Zone.
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esperterra posted:not entirely related, but there's also a blind dude who loves the oddworld games b/c the sound design in them is so good he could learn to beat them from mostly that alone Squeezy Farm posted:thank you patrick HolePisser1982 posted:video games are like the only artistic medium that allows your audience to tailor the experience to themselves, so i think creators playing to that strength is generally a good call. but at the same time, the audience is fully capable of playing to that strength by hacking their ps4, or grabbing someone elses save file, or running cheatengine or a mod or a trainer. its fine to criticize it for lacking the explicit easy mode option, but its also not some impossible wall that cant be mitigated
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Apr 4, 2019 17:45
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Demanding David Lynch release an easy mode Mulholland Drive
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Apr 4, 2019 18:02
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tao of lmao posted:Cuphead needed an easy mode for the tutorial apparently. Cuphead easy mode was still too hard for them and they still complained. You literally cannot win against these types of people when they've dug their heels in, it's impossible.
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esperterra posted:not entirely related, but there's also a blind dude who loves the oddworld games b/c the sound design in them is so good he could learn to beat them from mostly that alone Someone did this with FFXIII too. It rules
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What's next, an easy mode to clean your room? Actually that sounds pretty good tbh
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What actually bothers me about all this is people like Patrick using disabled people like a shield against criticism, trying to be the voice of this issue with his bad article instead of letting actual disabled folks take the lead in the conversation. That’s the problem with “woke” folks in general. They want to be at the front of the line of causes to play hero instead of just shutting up and listening
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Apr 4, 2019 18:14
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Wormskull posted:This gamer thinks that accessibility options and easy mode aren't the same thing. Subtitles or braille or whatever doesn't gently caress up a movie or book, but if they don't help you understand it then maybe your not meant to. And no one ever got mad about that. I don't know if this Games fucktard is even siding with Game's Too Hard journalism at this point or just picking a fight because someone brought up disabled gamers on youtube but if so, gently caress you man. You wouldn't suck Patrick Klepek's dick if he complained about James Joyce not having a Normie mode for Finnegan's Wake or whatever. yes, there are different categories of accessibility options. Some are tied to physical dexterity, some aren't. in this case once again people are acting like talk of benign changes to their favorite games are part of some Games Journalism SJW crusade. I'm not even talking about klepek, he just jumped into this yesterday afaik after ben put up his dumb "I understand there are real world physical restrictions for some people who want to play through Sekiro but not every game has to be for everyone" take. Patrick sucks and is easy to dunk on but come on.
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Klepec talked about visiting a third world sweatshop named after his dad on the bombcast
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Fluffdaddy posted:What actually bothers me about all this is people like Patrick using disabled people like a shield against criticism, trying to be the voice of this issue with his bad article instead of letting actual disabled folks take the lead in the conversation. That’s the problem with “woke” folks in general. They want to be at the front of the line of causes to play hero instead of just shutting up and listening This is why Patrick's article sucks, he doesn't even quote any of the people actually leading the discussion in game communities. And yes, performative woke shitheads suck, but the solution isn't "they should stop even pretending to be woke and do nothing" I know there are people who don't care for or want these options, and that's cool! There are also others who do want them
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First off, I’m the biggest SJW on these forums. Second off, Bob this is your fault for not qualifying your post with a 2000 word woke gamer essay covering every possible angle. Due diligence bro.
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Wormskull posted:First off, I’m the biggest SJW on these forums. Second off, Bob this is your fault for not qualifying your post with a 2000 word woke gamer essay covering every possible angle. Due diligence bro. lmao
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Wormskull posted:First off, I’m the biggest SJW on these forums. Second off, Bob this is your fault for not qualifying your post with a 2000 word woke gamer essay covering every possible angle. Due diligence bro. lmao
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Wormskull posted:First off, I’m the biggest SJW on these forums. Second off, Bob this is your fault for not qualifying your post with a 2000 word woke gamer essay covering every possible angle. Due diligence bro. Lol
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Wormskull posted:First off, I’m the biggest SJW on these forums. Second off, Bob this is your fault for not qualifying your post with a 2000 word woke gamer essay covering every possible angle. Due diligence bro.
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Tender Bender posted:And yes, performative woke shitheads suck, but the solution isn't "they should stop even pretending to be woke and do nothing" Actually they should since all they do is add unwanted noise to the discussion, drowning out the voices of the people they have assigned themselves to champion.
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Wormskull posted:First off, I’m the biggest SJW on these forums. Second off, Bob this is your fault for not qualifying your post with a 2000 word woke gamer essay covering every possible angle. Due diligence bro.
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Apr 4, 2019 18:28
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I'd prefer they listen to and elevate those voices tbh
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Apr 4, 2019 18:31
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I'm also inclined to believe if Sekiro was a western developed game it wouldn't have made 1/10th of a splash it has with the woke gamer community but that's a whole other bag of worms.Tender Bender posted:I'd prefer they listen to and elevate those voices tbh They only care to elevate their own brand and website clicks. Sorry if you are actually this naive
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:I'm also inclined to believe if Sekiro was a western developed game it wouldn't have made 1/10th of a splash it has with the woke gamer community but that's a whole other bag of worms. I mean, okay, but the point still stands that the solution to fixing performative wokeness isn't "just go away" and lol at slipping some "actually the Woke people might just be racist" in there
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Also God knows what would have happened to any game where they spent developing time on making whole second version for 5 foot tall Twitter bloggers dude. gently caress you. They don’t owe anyone a game they have the nards to beat. And if the complaint’s about the toxic community then just be a grownup and don’t let people talking poo poo about how you play a game ruin your day.
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I haven’t even played sekiro but it’s probably hilariously easy.
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Apr 4, 2019 18:42
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Tender Bender posted:I mean, okay, but the point still stands that the solution to fixing performative wokeness isn't "just go away" Nah they should probably go away. Kinda like you should now Fluffdaddy fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Apr 4, 2019 |
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Apr 4, 2019 18:42
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Tender Bender posted:I mean, okay, but the point still stands that the solution to fixing performative wokeness isn't "just go away" I wasn't slipping anything in, I'm pretty sure I just came out and said what I meant to say. Maybe you'll grow a backbone someday and will be able to do that too
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Apr 4, 2019 18:45
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I hope From makes a journalist version of the game next time and then releases the real one for grown rear end gamers to play.
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Wormskull posted:Also God knows what would have happened to any game where they spent developing time on making whole second version for 5 foot tall Twitter bloggers dude. gently caress you. They don’t owe anyone a game they have the nards to beat. And if the complaint’s about the toxic community then just be a grownup and don’t let people talking poo poo about how you play a game ruin your day. Same, though? I don't see anyone saying "Fromsoft is Canceled", it's just people saying they'd like games to be more accessible. This thread only got into it when when Ben pushed back and said "I understand there are real world physical restrictions for some people who want to play through Sekiro but not every game has to be for everyone", and doubled down when people replied.
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Apr 4, 2019 18:48
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im often impressed by just how bad of a writer pat is
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look at that final line "The goal posts are always being moved in favor of the gatekeepers."
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Tender Bender posted:Same, though? I don't see anyone saying "Fromsoft is Canceled", it's just people saying they'd like games to be more accessible. This thread only got into it because your clown rear end showed up 😂
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It’s not the same because in one instance your telling people they have an obligation to compromise their craftwork. Stupid clown. You can’t program toxic gatekeeping into the game dude. Some people just can’t handle it. Whatevs.
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