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Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
i like trains and would use them for travel if Amtrak wasn’t as expensive and slower than a flight

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Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
I took Amtrak once and I swear every other town had a water main break or something that held us up a ton

It was comfortable though

DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

Kitfox88 posted:

i like trains and would use them for travel if Amtrak wasn’t as expensive and slower than a flight

NYC to DC or Boston is cool and good because it's effectively the same time as flying when you factor in to/from airport, but good do I wish we had good rail infrastructure and high speed rail so bad so that the airline industry could gently caress right off.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bombadilillo posted:

I live there. Don is just talking to people as his retirement. He's great. Seen him once a week for years. Pretty sure he is doing it as something to do. Not to survive.

maybe we should have some kind of outlet in our lives that isnt generating profit for the literal fat morons from arkansas

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
I went from northern PA to Springfield IL a few times via amtrak and it was always relaxing but barely any cheaper than flying, and that was a decade ago. Pretty ride though. Got to go from LA up to Seattle once too via amtrak and though it was like 2 days it was god damned gorgeous.

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

Bombadilillo posted:

I can ask him Saturday! He's always super happy and usually just having a long chat with someone.

Not saying there arent olds getting screwed or greeting to survive. Just saying That guy ain't one.

It’s win-win, this useless old bag of bones can socialize with a captive audience and the life insurance policy the company took out on him will pay for all the wages they spend on him and then some :capitalism:

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Plank Walker posted:

cool to hate on walmart but thanks to their price rollbacks, Don still has his leg after shopping for groceries

Nice.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

my mother in law is 80 and a hateful chud that i hate but she just had her second fall in less than 6 months at work (helping as a 1 on 1 aide for special needs students in high school) and she won't go to the doctor because she's worried she'll get fired and lose her insurance lmfaoooooooo

EIGHTY

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



Landlords :argh:
"Rent went from $1,450 a week to $5,000 a week."

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Record stores are closing left and right and have been for at least a decade. I feel bad for the guy, but he must have known the writing was on The Wall...

Asimov
Feb 15, 2016

Now I'll never be able to enjoy my large, spacious, wood-paneled den that is specifically designed for enjoying the analog smoothness that only vinyl can provide.

e: or as an alternate thought, who the hell are these old people disappointed that their local record store is closing? I'm imagining a bunch of seventy-year-olds combing through musty stacks of records in a big store and it just doesn't make sense

Serf
May 5, 2011


Raldikuk posted:

I like how the article completely ignores the $20k cost and fact their insurance wouldn't cover it. How on earth would a wheelchair cost $20k? Looking online and even ones that use your eye movements to steer are way cheaper than that. But hey a robotics team was able to hook up a joystick to a powerwheels motor...so everything is ok.

i used to work in durable medical equipment and i can tell you that an electric wheelchair with all the bells and whistles will easily go for 20k billed to the insurance. the actual cost of parts and labor is about 3-4k depending on the practitioner, but we billed way higher than that across the board. like 150% markup was common, and the company was vertically-organized so we owned the parts distributor as well and were able to set the prices. i dunno how high those were marked up over the cost of manufacture but the cost of a grooved metal locking pin for a prosthesis was set at $17 so it had to be insane

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?






Don is great you can yank on his arm and his eyes roll back in his head and he throws up a bunch of quarters of you're lucky.

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Another part fell off Don, when is the Don replacement parts coming in?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Serf posted:

i used to work in durable medical equipment and i can tell you that an electric wheelchair with all the bells and whistles will easily go for 20k billed to the insurance. the actual cost of parts and labor is about 3-4k depending on the practitioner, but we billed way higher than that across the board. like 150% markup was common, and the company was vertically-organized so we owned the parts distributor as well and were able to set the prices. i dunno how high those were marked up over the cost of manufacture but the cost of a grooved metal locking pin for a prosthesis was set at $17 so it had to be insane

Don't worry I'm sure capitalism and competition will cause those prices to go down because supply and demand wouldn't let something as cheap and easy to manufacture as a single locking pin stay at that price for long.

If it doesn't work then it's the government's fault for all their pesky regulations about medical devices like "they need to not kill you"

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Asimov posted:

Now I'll never be able to enjoy my large, spacious, wood-paneled den that is specifically designed for enjoying the analog smoothness that only vinyl can provide.

e: or as an alternate thought, who the hell are these old people disappointed that their local record store is closing? I'm imagining a bunch of seventy-year-olds combing through musty stacks of records in a big store and it just doesn't make sense

I mean also hipster weirdos like me who like to listen to old weird albums and would prefer I had a place to buy them that wasn't as wishy-washy as ebay or as benefiting-Jeff-Bezos as amazon

However in my case the place to buy them is "every other stall at the flea market" so it's not like I need a dedicated store either

Serf
May 5, 2011


Shame Boy posted:

Don't worry I'm sure capitalism and competition will cause those prices to go down because supply and demand wouldn't let something as cheap and easy to manufacture as a single locking pin stay at that price for long.

If it doesn't work then it's the government's fault for all their pesky regulations about medical devices like "they need to not kill you"

oh yeah also the profit margins are so loving insane that even when we lose money we still won. we would routinely bill dirt-poor patients with poo poo loving obamacare plans for $6000, get maybe $100 or $200 out of them and then write the rest of it off because their insurance would pay us the rest of their $12,000 bill because we had met their deductible for the year and the price was so bloated that we won out

one time i hosed up the insurance on a patient and lost us $4000 and my boss and the guy above him just shrugged because while we lost that we had made $2000 on what i didn't gently caress up. same company had a scandal about 10 years ago up north where our offices were billing the insurances of dead people for products

also i just hated the sheer glee the people above me had about exploiting amputees. a below-the-knee (bk) amputee like me was poo poo money, like maybe $7000 for a new leg. above-the-knee (ak) people were worth like $15,000. arm guys were where my boss started salivating because if you got them into some bionic hand poo poo you could bill upwards of $30,000 or $40,000 for them, and he got so mad when he couldn't talk people into it and they wanted hooks, which are honestly still more useful than insurance-approved myoelectric prostheses. they didn't care about what was best for the patient, just on billing the maximum amount possible. also they loved veterans because we billed them absolutely insane numbers for c-legs and poo poo, like going up towards $50,000

i was paid $10.31/hour

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Serf posted:

also i just hated the sheer glee the people above me had about exploiting amputees. a below-the-knee (bk) amputee like me was poo poo money, like maybe $7000 for a new leg. above-the-knee (ak) people were worth like $15,000. arm guys were where my boss started salivating because if you got them into some bionic hand poo poo you could bill upwards of $30,000 or $40,000 for them, and he got so mad when he couldn't talk people into it and they wanted hooks, which are honestly still more useful than insurance-approved myoelectric prostheses. they didn't care about what was best for the patient, just on billing the maximum amount possible. also they loved veterans because we billed them absolutely insane numbers for c-legs and poo poo, like going up towards $50,000

i was paid $10.31/hour

I can't imagine being able to work there and not have an overwhelming urge to use your own prosthetic leg to kick them in the balls every loving day, jesus.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
pretty much everyone involved in the medical industry except maybe the actual people doing medicine to sick folk should be publicly executed yeah

Serf
May 5, 2011


Kitfox88 posted:

pretty much everyone involved in the medical industry except maybe the actual people doing medicine to sick folk should be publicly executed yeah

i should say that my immediate boss in this scenario was a practitioner, and he was absolutely driven by the fact that we had to make a quota every month or we got punished in the form of his christmas bonus going down (my christmas bonus was a $25 gift card to amazon)

but the guy above him, who was my practitioner when i was a kid, was a complete sociopath who was obsessed with projecting an aura of power and success. he was an amputee himself but had no issues with foisting useless tech onto people who didn't want it just because their insurance would pay for it. like wtf is an 87 year old woman with severe dementia gonna do with a c-leg? she can barely walk! when i pointed out that she preferred her wheelchair and maybe we should focus on making that more comfortable i was told "wheelchairs are low-dollar items" as the only justification

we also used to serve diabetic footwear with nursing homes and when i went on those trips i saw what hell is like. a rural georgia state-funded nursing home is a loving concentration camp. mentally ill old people wandered the halls getting into fights, grabbing people, getting sick on themselves and the floor etc. an old guy gave me a black eye there once, and we were told to process as many of them as possible, billing $250 for a $30 pair of shoes that were delivered en masse. the staff were largely checked out, minimum wage doesn't buy a lot of empathy, and the old people were basically being held in a dungeon waiting to die. going there is why i'm going to kill myself before i get old. i will not end up like that

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Getting hired as a pharmacy tech is what started turning me communist.

Lucid Nonsense
Aug 6, 2009

Welcome to the jungle, it gets worse here every day

Raldikuk posted:

I like how the article completely ignores the $20k cost and fact their insurance wouldn't cover it. How on earth would a wheelchair cost $20k? Looking online and even ones that use your eye movements to steer are way cheaper than that. But hey a robotics team was able to hook up a joystick to a powerwheels motor...so everything is ok.

A friend of mine is a mobility specialist for people who are covered by workers comp. They can run 10's of thousands of dollars and have to be completely customized to the patient's disabilities. Even the simplest chairs with just a motor and joystick are over $1k.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Away all Goats posted:

Not one of those guys even look like pastors, the 3rd guy could be a singer in a punk band

every modern pastor looks like that now

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug

Plank Walker posted:

cool to hate on walmart but thanks to their price rollbacks, Don still has his leg after shopping for groceries
late to reply but just saw this and lmao

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Away all Goats posted:

Not one of those guys even look like pastors, the 3rd guy could be a singer in a punk band

there is a YouTube pastor guy who watches music videos with his son and talks about maynard james keenan being mad at his mom for being grateful to god despite being paralyzed. they're kinda funny

i think modern christianity is continuing the ol ac slater backwards chair sitting ethos they had when they tried to make belief cool 20 years ago.

maybe it's always been that way and I'm projecting my own experience

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Lucid Nonsense posted:

A friend of mine is a mobility specialist for people who are covered by workers comp. They can run 10's of thousands of dollars and have to be completely customized to the patient's disabilities. Even the simplest chairs with just a motor and joystick are over $1k.

Unfortunately you got this post in after the other person who worked for one that explained how it's entirely a massive ripoff that actually costs a fraction of what they charge so it kinda took the air out of your sails here.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Eat This Glob posted:

there is a YouTube pastor guy who watches music videos with his son and talks about maynard james keenan being mad at his mom for being grateful to god despite being paralyzed. they're kinda funny

i think modern christianity is continuing the ol ac slater backwards chair sitting ethos they had when they tried to make belief cool 20 years ago.

maybe it's always been that way and I'm projecting my own experience

They've been trying and failing to be cool to fellow teens since at least the 50's as far as I can tell going by a few old movies / short films I've seen so I assume they'll be doing that forever. The particular angle of their baseball hat may change from forward to backward to 45 degrees over the years but it's the same old game.

Lucid Nonsense
Aug 6, 2009

Welcome to the jungle, it gets worse here every day

Shame Boy posted:

Unfortunately you got this post in after the other person who worked for one that explained how it's entirely a massive ripoff that actually costs a fraction of what they charge so it kinda took the air out of your sails here.

He also quoted his boss as saying "wheelchairs are low dollar items", so there's a difference in the markets for them and prosthetics. My friend also does work for a charity that provides chairs for injured veterans when the VA won't pay for it. I'm not saying the insurance side doesn't jack up the end cost to worker's comp, but his source cost is the same either way.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Eat This Glob posted:

there is a YouTube pastor guy who watches music videos with his son and talks about maynard james keenan being mad at his mom for being grateful to god despite being paralyzed. they're kinda funny

i think modern christianity is continuing the ol ac slater backwards chair sitting ethos they had when they tried to make belief cool 20 years ago.

maybe it's always been that way and I'm projecting my own experience

calvary back in the late 60's and early 70's had a long haired hippie who looked like jesus actually preaching radical acceptance and love, and it helped really build them from a podunk random church in orange county to one of those mega church networks worth millions. Then it came out Frisbee Jones was gay and unashamed of it so he got exiled from the church and memory-holed

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

1994 Toyota Celica posted:

every modern pastor looks like that now

I pretty much only go to church once a year to appease my mom but he still wore the traditional robes. But maybe it's different for catholics

Mill Village
Jul 27, 2007

Brand Twitter is out of control.

https://twitter.com/nitomatta/status/1113919191411597312?s=21

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug
a brand will conspire with twitter to get themselves banned for posting something "controversial" so that other brands can start a fake hashtag campaign to save a brand and fight for free speech

the brand will ultimately be unbanned, and their sales will go up

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

ekuNNN posted:

An instagram account called PreachersNSneakers is matching Megachurch pastors to the wildly expensive sneakers they're wearing:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml8bQDnnkKk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss_P4dgghtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjFjtHXI5gk

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
my mom worked in a nursing home during the summer when she was in college or something; one lady (probably with dementia or something) was tied to a chair all day and would cry to be untied but she wasn't allowed to untie her

i imagine they're slightly better at hiding the abuse these days

im so glad we live in a world where we can just black hole our elderly family members now instead of taking care of them

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

Away all Goats posted:

I pretty much only go to church once a year to appease my mom but he still wore the traditional robes. But maybe it's different for catholics

As a born Lutheran I know Lutherans still wear the robes (And the tackiest shawl allowed by law). I think it might be mostly an Evangelical thing to not actually dress like a Priest/Pastor since I've seen other mainline protestants wear the uniform.

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
it's a con artist thing

there's tenuous at best genealogy or affiliation with any tradition for half of these people -- its all about saying things that people want to hear and raking in money

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i met a Lutheran padre the other day who didn't wear the robes but he did have a cross probably the size of my hand hung to his chest which was cool

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Dead Beef posted:

a brand will conspire with twitter to get themselves banned for posting something "controversial" so that other brands can start a fake hashtag campaign to save a brand and fight for free speech

the brand will ultimately be unbanned, and their sales will go up

I almost wish I was in marketing just to see what kind of crazy poo poo I could get away with.

"What if uhhh... we said Subway was the victim of a hate crime?"

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

lancemantis posted:

my mom worked in a nursing home during the summer when she was in college or something; one lady (probably with dementia or something) was tied to a chair all day and would cry to be untied but she wasn't allowed to untie her

i imagine they're slightly better at hiding the abuse these days

im so glad we live in a world where we can just black hole our elderly family members now instead of taking care of them

my wife once did a service rotation out in middle of nowheresville louisiana at this state asylum. they have a cemetery on the grounds with thousands of nameless graves because back then they just couldn't communicate with a lotta their patients, even to learn their names; it's one of the more famous "haunted places" in louisiana

anyway, it now operates at a fraction of the capacity of what it used to, so as a result some of the older buildings have been repurposed into dormitories for med student rotations and whatnot, one of which is where my wife was put up. she sent me pictures of the basement where they still have manacles set into the walls, because that's just how they dealt with patients back then before the advent of neuroleptics. like there are probably still people alive that remember this

H.P. Hovercraft has issued a correction as of 20:02 on Apr 5, 2019

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May 6, 2007

lancemantis posted:

my mom worked in a nursing home during the summer when she was in college or something; one lady (probably with dementia or something) was tied to a chair all day and would cry to be untied but she wasn't allowed to untie her

i imagine they're slightly better at hiding the abuse these days

im so glad we live in a world where we can just black hole our elderly family members now instead of taking care of them

That's horrific, fortunately they can drug people now.

I worked at a nursing home for about a year. The dementia ward was depressing but not the worst part, most of the people in the dementia ward were too far gone to realise their situation. One couple mistook each other for their dead spouses and used to sit hand in hand with beautiful smiles on their faces. The slightly more aware ones used to try and trick the door code out of me every time, usually with innocuous sounding requests: "the nurse asked me to pop out to the shop for something, would you mind opening the door" etc. The worst bit was when they'd get disorientated and scared, usually because they'd had a particular lucid moment

The worst part of the nursing home though was the terminal hospital where they provided palliative care to people who were beyond saving. Most people were only there for a week or so, but there were three women who had been there for years, in pain, unable to do anything for themselves, just waiting to die. Two of them were never visited by anyone at all and used to just spend most of their time awaie wailing and crying.

Nothing has convinced me more of our need for euthanasia than my experience there

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