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You'd think the father, somewhere during the process of being sued and potentially losing control of the crime scene, would've dug up the body and moved it somewhere else. Men who murder their wives are often arrogant I suppose.
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Sarcopenia posted:Poor guy. Why on earth didn't they get a warrant for that backyard? Cops are poo poo Think of the stupid rear end in a top hat from high school who you knew would never be able to hold down a regular job. Guess what? He's a cop now.
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Apr 9, 2019 15:35
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RNG posted:You malingerers act as though Necco wafers don't exist. "I don't like the way this tastes" vs. "this challenges the definition of 'candy.'" Good news! Necco Wafers no longer exist!
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Basebf555 posted:You'd think the father, somewhere during the process of being sued and potentially losing control of the crime scene, would've dug up the body and moved it somewhere else. Men who murder their wives are often arrogant I suppose. He buried the body in concrete, I think he just didn't want to go to the trouble. Plus it would have attracted a lot of attention if he began destroying the patio of a house he was being sued for ownership of and which the plaintiff said there was a body under.
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Apr 9, 2019 15:59
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AlbieQuirky posted:Good news! Necco Wafers no longer exist! This is phenomenal news. I just felt the world get a little better.
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Apr 9, 2019 16:20
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Basebf555 posted:You'd think the father, somewhere during the process of being sued and potentially losing control of the crime scene, would've dug up the body and moved it somewhere else. Men who murder their wives are often arrogant I suppose. my man, have you ever torn up a concrete slab?
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Apr 9, 2019 16:23
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I'm mostly surprised the father didn't take the first plane to a country without an extradition treaty as soon as he lost the case.
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Apr 9, 2019 16:40
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luxury handset posted:my man, have you ever torn up a concrete slab? I had no idea it was concrete, I couldn't read the article without a subscription. But yea, that does change the situation quite a bit because of the effort involved but also the attention you'd get from the noise and equipment needed.
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Apr 9, 2019 16:46
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Basebf555 posted:I had no idea it was concrete, I couldn't read the article without a subscription. But yea, that does change the situation quite a bit because of the effort involved but also the attention you'd get from the noise and equipment needed. It said it was concrete in the tweet.
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Apr 9, 2019 16:54
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People who have $26 mil to forfeit seem to be not be questioned nearly as hard as everyone else.
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Not to be morbid, but putting bodies under concrete has been a reliable and relative safe method since the invention of concrete. Basketball courts , garages, doesn’t matter, the higher dollar the build, the better. Ground penetrating radar and such has made this a touch more risky, but those cost money too. The cost in dollars and embarrassment for an elected official to perform an expensive dig can be a career ender
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Apr 9, 2019 17:10
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Dr.Caligari posted:Not to be morbid, but putting bodies under concrete has been a reliable and relative safe method since the invention of concrete. Pretty sure it's still working for Hoffa, somewhere.
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CleverHans posted:Pretty sure it's still working for Hoffa, somewhere. Noted mob hitman Kuklinski says that the body was burned in an oil drum, then the drum was welded shut and eventually compacted down into a cube. Then the cube was shipped off somewhere in Asia with other scrap metal. When the mob wants your body gone I guess they don't gently caress around.
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Apr 9, 2019 17:48
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Basebf555 posted:Noted mob hitman Kuklinski says that the body was burned in an oil drum, then the drum was welded shut and eventually compacted down into a cube. Then the cube was shipped off somewhere in Asia with other scrap metal. According to Frank Sheeran, they got rid of his body by cremating it after he shot him in the head. I'd take that with a giant grain of salt though. (the cremation makes sense, Sheeran doing it is the questionable part) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sheeran#Disputed_allegations AFewBricksShy has a new favorite as of 18:00 on Apr 9, 2019 |
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Apr 9, 2019 17:56
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they threw hoffa's body into the landfill fire under the pulaski skyway nah they fed him to a scrap metal machine in a kearny junkyard thats stupid, they encased him in concrete and threw him in the hackensack river what, that's dumb, he was buried under one of the endzones in the old Giants Stadium
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Scorsese apparently shot a movie starring Deniro as a guy who has claimed to have killed Hoffa. It's called The Irishman, coming out at some point later this year.
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Apr 9, 2019 18:51
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Hoffa was killed by so many people at once Get on his level, Mussolini
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Basebf555 posted:Scorsese apparently shot a movie starring Deniro as a guy who has claimed to have killed Hoffa. It's called The Irishman, coming out at some point later this year. That's Frank Sheeran (see my post above). I read his book. There's a lot of stuff that is super questionable. He claims to have given the guns to the cia guys that killed Kennedy, because obviously they would have needed to get a teamster heavy to give them rifles. Edit: Reading the wiki, apparently he said it was a mob hit, but I thought he described the guys as "government types" or something like that. It still reeked of bs though. AFewBricksShy has a new favorite as of 19:08 on Apr 9, 2019 |
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Apr 9, 2019 19:04
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AFewBricksShy posted:That's Frank Sheeran (see my post above). Yea, his explanation for the Kennedy assassination is that Hoffa arranged it because he was pissed off at RFK for "harassing" him. Tough to believe Hoffa would've even thought of assassinating the President as an option, it just seems ridiculous on it's face. The wiki page also says that there was in fact blood found at the house Sheeran claims he killed Hoffa in but that the DNA didn't match Hoffa.
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Basebf555 posted:I had no idea it was concrete, I couldn't read the article without a subscription. But yea, that does change the situation quite a bit because of the effort involved but also the attention you'd get from the noise and equipment needed. quote:Aaron was eventually adopted by another family, taking their last name. In the early 2000s, he filed a wrongful-death lawsuit against his biological father, even though Bonnie’s remains had not been found. In April 2005, he won a $26.3 million settlement against Michael, which included the ownership of the family home, News4Jax reported. It was being used as a rental.
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Apr 9, 2019 19:46
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That kid was committed. That’s some monte cristo poo poo
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christmas boots posted:That kid was committed. That’s some monte cristo poo poo Only better ending is if he lured the father back to the house and then buried his rear end in the same spot, never to be seen or heard from again.
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Apr 9, 2019 19:57
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Well, imagining digging up my mom's skull was a fun exercise, time for drinking
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Apr 9, 2019 20:06
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Basebf555 posted:Noted mob hitman Kuklinski says that the body was burned in an oil drum, then the drum was welded shut and eventually compacted down into a cube. Then the cube was shipped off somewhere in Asia with other scrap metal. Thats 95% them making a statement. Consider that you could just cremate the body and then just spread them out somewhere or dump em at sea or a body water. Same exact results but its not as ominous.
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Apr 9, 2019 20:23
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Basebf555 posted:Only better ending is if he lured the father back to the house and then buried his rear end in the same spot, never to be seen or heard from again. “For the love of your mother, Montresor!”
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Apr 9, 2019 20:59
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What happens if you win a $26 million settlement or whatever off someone who just doesn't have it? Like I can imagine that you get their assets and they take a chunk out of any future money that person earns but do you just not get it?
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Pretty much. I think you can take most of their assets etc. In some cases you can garnish potential future earnings but they will probably be declared bankrupt and that will be the end of it.
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turntabler posted:What happens if you win a $26 million settlement or whatever off someone who just doesn't have it? Like I can imagine that you get their assets and they take a chunk out of any future money that person earns but do you just not get it? Pretty much. They can garnish all future wages, take any tax refunds they might get going forward, seize whatever assets they have and auction them off, etc, but you can't get blood from a stone.
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Apr 9, 2019 22:02
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Azathoth posted:Pretty much. They can garnish all future wages, take any tax refunds they might get going forward, seize whatever assets they have and auction them off, etc, but you can't get blood from a stone. This is why poor people are considered litigation proof. You could win a settlement and end up losing thousands of dollars to lawyer fees with no help from the guilty party because they only work 10 hours a week at the gas station. That’s where taxes, fees, rent and fines come in! You actually can get blood from a stone that way, just really slowly.
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Alaois posted:they threw hoffa's body into the landfill fire under the pulaski skyway don’t be silly, he’s buried under a big W
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Dissapointed Owl posted:don’t be silly, he’s buried under a big W Obscure reference, but I'll allow it.
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Apr 10, 2019 02:27
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i thought hoffa's corpse was used to make spam
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Proteus Jones posted:Obscure reference, but I'll allow it. I love that movie. And now I want pie.
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AlbieQuirky posted:Good news! Necco Wafers no longer exist! Until the end of this year. They’re coming back in November.
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Azathoth posted:Pretty much. They can garnish all future wages, take any tax refunds they might get going forward, seize whatever assets they have and auction them off, etc, but you can't get blood from a stone. Isn't this what happened with O.J.? He lost the wrongful death suit and got a judgement against him in the millions, but he declared bankruptcy.
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AlbieQuirky posted:Hoffa was killed by so many people at once https://www.theonion.com/november-22-1963-1819587981
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Robokomodo posted:Until the end of this year. They’re coming back in November. Who bought the rights and recipe? I know somebody bought the Skybar rights and recipe, but I didn’t see the coverage on Necco wafers.
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Apr 10, 2019 16:38
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Basebf555 posted:Noted mob hitman Kuklinski says that the body was burned in an oil drum, then the drum was welded shut and eventually compacted down into a cube. Then the cube was shipped off somewhere in Asia with other scrap metal. There’s still a yard (conveniently within city limits, I think) in Youngstown that compacts autos and sells scrap overseas. Can’t help but wonder how many bodies are still left in trunks to never be seen again.
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I thought Hoffa was barbecued and then served to gormless deep-south cops.
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AlbieQuirky posted:Who bought the rights and recipe? Sprangler, who also bought the SweetHearts and Canada Mints rights and equipment.
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