Sarsapariller posted:

Makes me wonder what other things we can find in old demos that we definitely thought were a joke at the time, but then it turns out they were not a joke

Sarsapariller posted:

Meanwhile here's the heaviest freighter currently in-game doing some snap turns in a canyon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF19C9kvHhg

what is flight model how is thruster formed

Lladre posted:

This is left over spaghetti code from their first attempt at airlocks. When I correctly guessed that the whole thing was based on your character pushing the button.
Every time these guys chime up about fidelity, it makes chuckle.

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1115425956385230848
https://twitter.com/JeromyWalsh/status/1116337042760327168

iospace posted:

About that!

Mirificus posted:

Lladre posted:

This is left over spaghetti code from their first attempt at airlocks. When I correctly guessed that the whole thing was based on your character pushing the button.
Every time these guys chime up about fidelity, it makes chuckle.

Mirificus posted:

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Beet Wagon posted:

Hi hello I’m here to tell you that it actually doesn’t matter what your sample size is if your survey is biased and the responses are unclear thanks for coming to my TED talk

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Exactly! Seeing that there are cupboards and things we can interact with already. I feel like those are just placeholders for later on. I want to be able to hang up all my outfits and space suits in a closet! Also I. The area 18 habs they have that little tv that comes down, I really hope they implement some sort of real news system. Would love to wake up turn on that tv see what’s new and happening in the verse while I make my morning coffe for my commute the space sport! Or being able to find some unquie mineral or gem and being able to display it on your counter, would remind me of the adventure I went on to get that rock! Or maybe a piece of vandull armor that I was barely able to acquire without a battle wound to pair with the story! The possibilities are practically endless!

Bumble He posted:

first of all: STRANGE! why would it be fun to play something else then that which you wanted to play? i dont get it. but i also did not get the jobs in shenmue.

second of all: if QT is some sort of loading screen...well it will be tricky to load up another game then? (while at the same time keep the universe runninng in the back, since the wish to play star marine until they are interdicted or something)

Mirificus posted:

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Agony Aunt posted:

Amazing how a company can be valued at 460 million when they are in debt to investors by at least 40 something million, don't yet have a finished product, and haven't actually generated any profit yet.

But that's just business i suppose.

Mirificus posted:

big nipples big life posted:

I want ED to ad space legs, not because space legs are a good idea but because the massive dump it would be on CInotG would be fun to watch.

iospace posted:

About that!

Remember the whole "more expensive ships go faster in QT"?

So, I was curious, and looked into jump range (closest comparison for cost to performance in this case) for Elite ships, without having to spend more money on the expansion. Supercruise mechanics are the same (intrasystem), but intersystem range varies between ships.

FOR THE SAKE OF THIS ARGUMENT, EACH SHIP WILL BE FITTED WITH THE FOLLOWING:
-2A Powerplant
-Smallest D rated thrusters it can fit
-Biggest A rated frame shift drive
-D class life support
-1D power distro (no need for boosting here)
-D class sensors
-Stock fuel tank (read: largest)
-Largest class A fuel scoop
-Detailed surface scanner
-Remaining optional internals are EMPTY
-0 heatsink launchers
-NO ENGINEERING OR GUARDIAN MODULES

What I'm really curious is cost/light year in range. For the sake of easy comparison, we're looking at the jump range with a full load of fuel. We're basically min/maxing both the range and the cost here (realistically you're running AFMUs and a shield, plus heatsinks). Min/Maxing with Horizons stuff will take the Sidewinder from 21.12 to 43 flat, for what it's worth, with greater effects on bigger ships, but it's hard to quantify the price of that, so we're ignoring it. Yes, you could do some fuckery with the fuel scoop size to help offset cost, but we want consitency between each ship.

Let's start with the Sidewinder, the starter ship. It's free of charge, so you can disregard the hull cost, but for this let's not. It comes out at a good 21.12LY range, all for 870,068 credits. That gives you a nice 41,296 credits per light year. However, if you want to visit Beagle Point, that's not going to cut it unless you want to take some fun routes. You need more range.

Enter the Hauler. It can carry a bigger fuel scoop, which adds to the cost. It checks in at 1,516,648 credits, but goes 32.08 LY. That'll get you to Beagle Point comfortably. It's slightly less cost efficient than the Sidewinder at 47,277 Cr/LY, but that extra range means you can go a bit further.

Now we're starting to break 8 figures for a ship, and this is the final small ship: the Diamondback Explorer. It clocks in at an impressive 38.27LY range, one of the longest ranges in the game (only one ship outclasses it without engineering or guardian modules). Costs 10,191,078 credits, giving us 259,513 Cr/LY. However, if you want to do deep space exploration, that price tag is definitely worth the extra 6+ LY.

Getting into the medium ships, first up is the Type-6 Transporter. Nominally a cargo ship, it does exploration pretty well, with a pretty good 30.67 jump range, and a lot of cargo space for endurance runs. It can also carry a bigger scoop than the DBX, which is where the scoop makes up a non-trivial amount of the cost, costing more than the other components combined (if you want to drop the scoop down to a 5B instead of a 5A, you save over 6m credits for all of 5 seconds more fueling time, but that doesn't apply here). At 12,052,588 credits, it costs 392,976 Cr/LY.

The original exploration boat, the Asp Explorer, has largely been overshadowed by newer ships as of late, but it still gets the job done. A beefy 35.21LY range with a 40,679,838 credit cost, it weighs in at 1,155,348 Cr/LY. Like the Type-6, the fuel scoop is extremely expensive.

I was tempted to do the Python but it was not good enough, so have the Krait Phantom instead. The newest ship in this list, and also the last medium, it can go 35.41 light years in a single jump. It also changes the mold that the hull costs more than the rest of the components combined, clocking in at 77,096,603 credits, for a total of 2,177,255.

And here we are. The pinnacle of ships: the Anaconda. The hull itself is 9 figures, an add on all the other bits, and you're looking at 251,771,718 credits. However, for that cost you're able to go 39.63 LY, the longest range of any ship without engineering. However, it's not efficient at all: 6,353,058 Cr/LY. However, you have the biggest jump range in the game. Add in Horizons min/maxing and you can easily make a planetary landing capable ship that sits at 80.83LY. Impressive.

Let's go back to the hauler though. A 3A fuel scoop will fill the 4T tank in 22 seconds. A 3C will do it in 31. The A rated one is 902,950 credits, and the C is 56,440 credits. So if you're not too concerned over a few more seconds to refuel, you can drop down to a 3C and not lose too much time (and realitically, you'll never notice unless you do a couple jumps without refueling). If you're a min/maxing loon and want to drop your shield or AFMU for a FSD Booster, then engineer the rest, you can get a super impressive 57.94 LY range for under 3m credits. Not going to be able to land on planets, but still, a very impressive ship for its cost.

iospace posted:

Elite just announced that they're buffing the smaller ships

Two extra optional internal slots for small ships, one extra for medium. Oh and they're making it more newbie friendly.

*looks over in SC's direction*

Scruffpuff posted:

The yawning chasm between CIG's valuation and their actual real-world worth is a big reason why this is so fun to watch. At some point the rubber hits the road - we've just been consistently wrong about when that will occur.

big nipples big life posted:

I want ED to ad space legs, not because space legs are a good idea but because the massive dump it would be on CInotG would be fun to watch.

Beet Wagon posted:

Hi hello I’m here to tell you that it actually doesn’t matter what your sample size is if your survey is biased and the responses are unclear thanks for coming to my TED talk

Agony Aunt posted:

Amazing how a company can be valued at 460 million when they are in debt to investors by at least 40 something million, don't yet have a finished product, and haven't actually generated any profit yet.

But that's just business i suppose.