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SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"
SURVIVAL MODE BETA? They are adding a survival mode to their online survival game? :confused:

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the unabonger
Jun 21, 2009
its survival more in that you have to survive the other players more.

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so
Yeah it’s the pvp servers.

Loan Dusty Road
Feb 27, 2007
I figured it was the next phase of the game. You know, just flat out existing a few months from now.

the unabonger
Jun 21, 2009
Here's something cool about the newest update: There is no Sheepsquatch.

the unabonger
Jun 21, 2009
Like, Sheepsquatch is in the files, theres a model of him, but so far he has not made an appearance in the game.

Captain Queernabs
Dec 25, 2005

Fig. 1: bonehorse
Pillbug
I just installed FNV and spent maybe a dozen hours dicking around having fun. I think I'm about to make it to Boulder City, and I've done every quest that's come my way up until now (the question where you help Jason Bright go to the moon? was particularly fun. I have two questions:

• Right now, Ceasar's Legion hates me, while the NCR likes me. This wasn't a conscious choice on my part: one side was trying to kill me and the other wasn't. Same for the Powder Gangers. While I can't imagine I'll regret their enmity, have I damned myself to a fixed path and walled off parts of the game for myself or am I still good?

• When I played Fallout 4, I dicked around for 80 hours and never really got into the main quest--I found some old man my son? i can't remember and got burned out from all the settlement quests and poo poo by the time I got to the factional quests afterward. Now that I'm playing FNV--are there any essential sidequest-givers in this game, or are they all pretty good? What's the right speed for the main quest/DLC?

Captain Queernabs fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Apr 12, 2019

Father Wendigo
Sep 28, 2005
This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Captain Queernabs posted:

I just installed FNV and spent maybe a dozen hours dicking around having fun. I think I'm about to make it to Boulder City, and I've done every quest that's come my way up until now (the question where you help Jason Bright go to the moon? was particularly fun. I have two questions:

• Right now, Ceasar's Legion hates me, while the NCR likes me. This wasn't a conscious choice on my part: one side was trying to kill me and the other wasn't. Same for the Powder Gangers. While I can't imagine I'll regret their enmity, have I damned myself to a fixed path and walled off parts of the game for myself or am I still good?

• When I played Fallout 4, I dicked around for 80 hours and never really got into the main quest--I found some old man my son? i can't remember and got burned out at the factional quests afterward. I don't have a ton of time and don't want to get bogged down in 100 fetch/dungeon quests. Are there any essential sidequest-givers in this game, or are they all pretty good? What's the right speed for the main quest/DLC?

RE: NV - You're fine, partway through the main quest you'll gain control of a Macguffin and the two primary factions will set the past aside to get on your good side.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
at a certain point the legion and ncr will forgive you your trespasses.

if you keep killing them after that though they will hate you forever

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
One important thing to bear in mind with the DLC is: manually save before going to a DLC area. Three of them don't allow you to leave until you're done with that area's main quest, and if you find yourself not having a lot of fun it's nice to know you can just roll back time and skip it

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
You'll get a chance to join Caesar's Legion later if you want to, even if they hate you now. Powder Gangers have some quests around the NCR Correction Facility, but nothing much apart from that.

Remember you can use faction armor if you still want to do a hostile faction's quests, though faction leaders and their guards will usually see through it.

There aren't that many fetch quests in NV compared to fo4. The main quest will send you all over the map to make contact with the major factions. The DLC is meant to be done after the main game, but the enemy scaling can get out of hand.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
Technically, the Legion doesn't start out trying to kill you. Only literally everyone and everything else around you! They'll go hostile if you attack them first or recruit Boone. I guess there's a couple of quests in the Nelson area that flag them hostile as well.

Captain Queernabs
Dec 25, 2005

Fig. 1: bonehorse
Pillbug
Oh also who should I recruit? I've got ED-E right now and I DL'd a mod that gives him a little face and I love him.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
you should recruit boone because he hates the legion and so should you

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
I mean, if the Legion already hates you it's not like there's any downside.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger
As far as quests go, I don't think there are any that I'd call bad, so don't worry about that.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

corn in the bible posted:

you should recruit boone because he hates the legion and so should you

i love the legion

they give plenty exp

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
I dunno, its fun to basically dress you and boone up as legion and then go about killing them stealthily. It's probably the only thing that would keep him from shooting me in the head for it.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Brief companion guide (spoiler location-spoiler companion name)

Novac at night time -Boone
The 188 Trading Post north of Novac -Veronica
Black Mountain -Raul
Followers HQ in Freeside -Arcade Gannon
Mojave Outpost -Cass
The King's HQ in Freeside -Rex
Jacobstown -Lily

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
You can't put Boone in Legion Armor without a mod.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.
Except for helmets.

They'll all wear headgear because it has no faction disguise flag, so feel free to give Boone or Arcade the first Centurion helmet you find.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

2house2fly posted:

One important thing to bear in mind with the DLC is: manually save before going to a DLC area. Three of them don't allow you to leave until you're done with that area's main quest, and if you find yourself not having a lot of fun it's nice to know you can just roll back time and skip it

Especially the first one, Dead Money (stared with quest "Sierra Madre Grand Opening!" in the Abandoned PoS bunker) is very divisive as it turns the game to something else than what it normally is. Others are more or less "Fallouting with a theme".

I personally did not care for it but some consider it one of the best Fallout DLCs.

Son of a Vondruke!
Aug 3, 2012

More than Star Citizen will ever be.

Der Kyhe posted:

I personally did not care for it but some consider it one of the best Fallout DLCs.

It's kind of strange, at the time I wasn't too fond of it. But looking back I find it to easily be the most memorable DLC. Probably more memorable than the main quest.

Zirak
Oct 17, 2018
All this talk of New Vegas is making me want to give it another run, especially as I've never completed the main quest or any DLCs other than Dead Money.

What do you guys use to mod it these days? Do you just install the mods manually or is there still an active mod manager for FNV? I tend to use Nexus for any mods I get but I'd love some other recommendations if people have them.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Zirak posted:

All this talk of New Vegas is making me want to give it another run, especially as I've never completed the main quest or any DLCs other than Dead Money.

What do you guys use to mod it these days? Do you just install the mods manually or is there still an active mod manager for FNV? I tend to use Nexus for any mods I get but I'd love some other recommendations if people have them.

Mod Organizer 2 or the Nexus Mod Manager are the preferred options. The modding thread is still active, and though the OP is by now pretty out of date there's still a good selection of recommendations there.

Zirak
Oct 17, 2018

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Mod Organizer 2 or the Nexus Mod Manager are the preferred options. The modding thread is still active, and though the OP is by now pretty out of date there's still a good selection of recommendations there.

Ah awesome, thank you very much! I'll give that a look over. :)

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Son of a Vondruke! posted:

It's kind of strange, at the time I wasn't too fond of it. But looking back I find it to easily be the most memorable DLC. Probably more memorable than the main quest.

I hated it the first time through, and the next playthrough when I wanted to play it for the story I deliberately built my character to trivialise it- the perk that adds more money to loot which also works with casino chips, the perk which heals you if you have rad poisoning and then hung out in Searchlight for a while, the GRX implant, etc. Ended up enjoying it a lot, and I've enjoyed it more every time I've played. I think it may work best when you're not blindsided by it

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
dead money is legit good

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

In hindsight dead money was right before the point of no return, as far as avellone crawling up his own rear end in a top hat goes

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

It's funny how New Vegas' themes of how people keep aping the Old World without understanding it is pretty much an indictment of Bethesda's handling of the Fallout IP.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Whenever I get around to replaying NV I am skipping Dead Money. I get what they were going for but it was just a slog for me and I enjoyed Old World Blues a lot more.

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

FlamingLiberal posted:

Whenever I get around to replaying NV I am skipping Dead Money. I get what they were going for but it was just a slog for me and I enjoyed Old World Blues a lot more.

Profligate

Zirak
Oct 17, 2018

2house2fly posted:

I hated it the first time through, and the next playthrough when I wanted to play it for the story I deliberately built my character to trivialise it- the perk that adds more money to loot which also works with casino chips, the perk which heals you if you have rad poisoning and then hung out in Searchlight for a while, the GRX implant, etc. Ended up enjoying it a lot, and I've enjoyed it more every time I've played. I think it may work best when you're not blindsided by it

This was my experience with it too. The first time I had no idea what to expect or that I wouldn't be able to come and go as I please, so I muddled through it as quickly as possible to return to the main game (didn't save right before, like a dunce). Then last year I took my time with it and actually paid attention to the story, and I loved it! I really like the links to the Brotherhood of Steel stuff in the main game and the characters are really engaging and well-defined.

epenthesis
Jan 12, 2008

I'M TAKIN' YOU PUNKS DOWN!
Dead Money is a lot more fun with a mod that adds a safehouse with some gear.

They got seriously carried away with “what else can we change about the core gameplay?” and forgot that it still had to be fun. Making it less stupidly difficult to rest and evening the playing field with enemies makes it much less of a slog, and it’s otherwise a really well realized campaign.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

I find Dead Money to be worst of the DLCs in terms of gameplay. It's like Obsidian put everything that's annoying about videogames into one package. gently caress that bomb collar. Played Dead Money once and swore never touch it again because it was that tedious and stressful. Nowadays I either skip DM completely, cheat like a mofo or just mod out the annoyances that completely. While the story is good it's just not worth all the frustration.

Some people argue that Honest Hearts is the worst but Honest Hearts doesn't strap you with a bomb collar. Instead it just puts you to sleep. Zion is pretty though.

wafflemoose fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Apr 12, 2019

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Naked Survival (going in with basically no weapons or gear on Hardcore so you only get to use what the DLC gives you) turns Dead Money into one of the more harrowing Fallout experiences, to obvious mixed results

It's not like Fallout 1&2 were cakewalks either

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Vinylshadow posted:

Naked Survival (going in with basically no weapons or gear on Hardcore so you only get to use what the DLC gives you) turns Dead Money into one of the more harrowing Fallout experiences, to obvious mixed results

It's not like Fallout 1&2 were cakewalks either

You...can't take weapons into Dead Money. Its not an option without mods :confused:

Anyway, I love Dead Money. Best characters in the game, every one of them has such a good intro and finale that it's hard to go back to the normal rogues gallery of even New Vegas let alone the other games. As for combat, if you can find the three enhancements to the Holorifle it's so ridiculously OP that combat becomes a joke again, even on the hardest difficulty.

The speakers....aren't great. I guess my only real defense of them is that the part where they're at their worst in the vault is now easy to me because I died so many times that their is placement is permanently burned into my brain.

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

Dead money owns, the speakers are fine, if anything it isnt difficult enough.

Its survival horror fnv and I wish there was a mod to make it more difficult. There should have been a tyrant esque pursuer throughout

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
New Vegas owns but didn't age well at all IMO.

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corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
The worst dlc is actually Lonesome Road, anyway.

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