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After rebirthing everyone I holed up in the Hub training and crafting. By the time I left I had 4 heavy infantry (full specialist samurai armor + homemade skeleton-III weapons) and 3 light infantry (drifters leathers + rattan hat + sandals, specialist oldbow) with skills/stats 40+. They went through fogmen like a chainsaw through butter.
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quote:New game! Is there anyway to figure out where you'll start or is it random? Also should I just auto restart if I get the garden or the deathbeam place?
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Apr 12, 2019 13:49
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Benagain posted:Repeat that like three times and I made it out of Squin. Voyaging through the Venge, I found a beakthing nest that spawned next to a hive village and helpfully stole all the eggs while they killed them. Woah, there are eggs? quote:New game! Is there anyway to figure out where you'll start or is it random? Also should I just auto restart if I get the garden or the deathbeam place? Wondered about this myself, apparantly none of the starts are entirely random and some are set: https://kenshi.fandom.com/wiki/Game_Starts
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Apr 12, 2019 14:15
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The Lone Badger posted:I am setting up my own outpost and I was drastically underprepared for just how many warm bodies you need to do that. Fortunately you have a semi-steady stream of warm bodies coming in. You are using a recruitment mod, right? Early Imprisonment is also kind of a useful mod in that situation, although you can always haul new recruits to the nearest police station. e: I decided to try my hand at modding game starts. It's a little more involved than it seemed at first, but I got some interesting results out of it. I created a Friend to Animals start that starts with 100 relations with wildlife factions. This made it so I could just pick up wild animals and carry them around. I could also loot them while doing this, which of course killed them. I won a couple of fights by just carrying a Skimmer over to the fight. e2: Idle thought, since my main game is now allied with the Shek Kingdom due to cheesing multiple bounty turn-ins, I wonder if I could have my thieves pick up the guards and shopkeeper, carry them out of the shop, then have the rest of the thief squad rob the place. Dareon fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 12, 2019 14:41
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Dareon posted:Fortunately you have a semi-steady stream of warm bodies coming in. You are using a recruitment mod, right? what is a good recruitment mod? I'm slightly disappointed by the mod scene in this game though. It's been around forever, and i was expecting something closer to a M&B or Starsector (if you are familiar). Starsector may be a better comparison since it's much less popular than this game as opposed to M&B. but yeah, I was hoping for / expecting big overhauls or world conversion stuff but there aren't any  also. Update on my lonely robit. I finally finished my big northern excursion. I hit every ancient structure I could, I think I only skipped one. Found an armor king. He was cool, neat lore tidbits there. very annoying to get to. Couldn't get to one structure actually cause I could only run through Rebirth, which I learned did not like me. Got to World's End. Was a lot smaller than I was hoping, not a lot to do other than the Robotic shop. I bought a new left arm since the one I bought in the beginning was pretty lovely. this one has 260 health as opposed to 100! I have like 120k monies, 6 engineering research, 30 ancient books, 4 ai cores. This is probably enough to start a base right? only problem is I'm all by my lonesome, and I kind of don't want to bother managing non-robots eating and stuff. Skeletons are so much easier. Tabletops fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 12, 2019 15:08
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Paradise Falls if you want people to not be able to say no. Prisoner Recruitment if you don't mind playing a little dialogue-driven minigame to eventually get the same thing out of it. Do not use both at once, they're mutually incompatible.quote:but yeah, I was hoping for / expecting big overhauls or world conversion stuff but there aren't any
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Cardiovorax posted:Paradise Falls if you want people to not be able to say no. Prisoner Recruitment if you don't mind playing a little dialogue-driven minigame to eventually get the same thing out of it. Do not use both at once, they're mutually incompatible. yeah, maybe that was the wrong descriptor. I guess what I meant was like systems overhauls, or conversion. I think you could probably reasonably create new minor factions and stuff without messing the lore up much. Maybe there are some blindspots in my nexus searching though, I don't remember seeing paradise falls at all when I was looking. oh also, I started a "no bodies" game. I started in uhh waystation ruins. I stumbled around north cause that's the part of the map i'm familiar with, in the great desert. Didn't find a city, but did find an outpost called Waystation. I guess it's new waystation. anyway, wondered around there. managed to buy some food with the industrial scraps i found at the ruins. Food is really annoying. After that, and deciding to head south into the unknown (for me) as opposed to the desert, I wondered around for quite a while having some close encounters with some beak things, robot slaves, scary spiders and some scavengers that were holed up in an ancient ruin. they didn't like it when I came in. managed not to die and finally found a town, uhh something lagoon. pretty cool area, love all the ships and stuff stranded on land. I was half expecting to see those kind of set pieces up in the desolate north. regardless it really set a very cool tone. I wonder if this was an ancient ocean or if they were all washed inland due to climate change (which seems to be a common mention in the texts ingame) or some kind of calamity at sea. anyway I'm in this town now, dunno where to go from here though. Only have 5,000 monies so not sure how much explorin' food i can buy. Tabletops fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 12, 2019 15:15
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quote:yeah, maybe that was the wrong descriptor. I guess what I meant was like systems overhauls, or conversion. I think you could probably reasonably create new minor factions and stuff without messing the lore up much. This game really isn't as easy to mod as something like Skyrim, though, so in all fairness, what you find will always be comparatively more limited. Even though there is a construction set, what it allows you change is just pretty limited on the whole.
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Apr 12, 2019 15:35
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well i found a giant gorilla in mourn and it's currently killing everyone in town. it's barely hurt after about 15 minutes of mowing dudes down. interestingly not many dudes fight it, they just kinda wander around until it attacks them.
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Apr 12, 2019 16:43
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One thing about modding is that the game constantly was reworked through the years, which kills a lot of mods. Now that Kenshi is out, we are seeing a lot more overhauls, modding and mesh tools, as well as additional storyline builds.
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Apr 12, 2019 16:45
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 its a massacre. of course i've been stealing all the dudes poo poo. which i guess kind of makes it last even longer since they have less armor and some have no weapons. hopefully more guys just keep spawning, idk how it works. lots missing limbs or otherwise really hosed up so they go down in seconds. beast is less than half in most of its limbs and organs. legs are almost shot, should make it easier once they are crippled...  finally got it after 4 straight days of fighting. i wish i had the right bolts for these crossbows, coulda trained up everyone really well:( Tabletops fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 12, 2019 17:20
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Haha, that gorillo is such a great trap. But, my guys were strong enough to actually kill it 
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Apr 12, 2019 17:30
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they warned you not to let it out....
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deadseedinside posted:they warned you not to let it out.... I didn't see the warnings, or read them rather. it's ok though, this town kind of sucks!
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Apr 12, 2019 17:33
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Raptor Island has an easy mega-fauna fight that pays out fairly well if you're in the area anyways. There's 1-2 mega-raptors that are trapped out on a ruin building. You can position your xbow men to just wear it down/kill it without ever having to step out on the ruin to fight it. Once it's dead, you can get ~20 skins, a bunch of raptor horns that sell for a good price, and maybe a bunch of meat (can't remember on that one). Plus there's a bunch of odds and ends weapons/armor laying around it's lair. Side question: Can you actually do anything with the Western Hive Queen? Swam all the way out to her island and seems like nothing to do out there. All the Hive boys just start freaking out if you try to talk to her and she just "reeeeeeeees" the whole time.
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deadseedinside posted:Raptor Island has an easy mega-fauna fight that pays out fairly well if you're in the area anyways. Kidnap her and the world state changes, also take a real, real close look at her
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dogstile posted:Kidnap her and the world state changes, also take a real, real close look at her i'm trying to avoid tanking the Western Hives as they're the bro faction of Kenshi for me. Also, I did notice the particular trait of both queens that i think you're referencing. Makes an interesting addition to the lore about their origins. gently caress the southern hive tho...
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Apr 12, 2019 18:56
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The prize for killing the great white is only like 13k worth of poo poo too.
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VulgarandStupid posted:The prize for killing the great white is only like 13k worth of poo poo too. Yeah was pretty nuts for such a small pay off. The town people had pretty crappy gear overall too.
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Good god the hive doesn't like you running off with the queen. I just want to put her on a throne in my base (in Okran's Pride) why you guys gotta be so violent about this? -e- Do these attacks ever stop? I hope not, this has been exciting. Belgian Waffle fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Apr 13, 2019 |
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Apr 13, 2019 05:14
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Okay, Bad Teeth has a level 3 well in the town RIGHT next to a longhouse for sale, I'm doing a no-save-load playthrough and I think I'm going to establish myself in the Holy Nation because it's very very safe. But, for anyone who is trying to choose a town to start out in, Bad Teeth is a good choice because of the water
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Tabletops posted:I didn't see the warnings, or read them rather. well yeah it just got torn up to poo poo!
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Apr 13, 2019 06:37
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holy crap this game is tough as nails... have started around three new games trying to get the ropes -- just keep getting owned no matter what. Guess it's time to start as a slave and build my toughness.
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Apr 13, 2019 08:19
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deadseedinside posted:i'm trying to avoid tanking the Western Hives as they're the bro faction of Kenshi for me. Also, I did notice the particular trait of both queens that i think you're referencing. Makes an interesting addition to the lore about their origins. I'm getting ready to mount a campaign against them. I hear they have a very interesting ally.
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Can you ever get your toughness and armor up to a point where trash mobs like bandits and fog men just hit you for no damage?
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The actual mechanics of combat are kind of opaque, but I think it just doesn't work like that. You will take basially no damage, compared to the combat skill of whoever is attacking you, but there will never be a flat chance of just taking no damage at all.
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Apr 13, 2019 15:12
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You can get very close to taking no damage with high toughness and armor but at that point you'll be cutting off limbs with nearly every hit, if not hitting people in the head and instantly putting them in a coma. Getting ultrahigh dodge is closer to what you want because at a certain point, I think 50 dodge? You no longer seem to take any damage at all during a dodge animation
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I have seen 0 damage hits (I think it was a ninja sword against a high-ranking Holy Nation guy, so an armor penetration penalty versus a lot of slashing armor), but it's never going to be a really common occurrence and pretty much never against blunt damage due to how armor works. If you stack appropriate shirt, pants, and armor, you could at least have a decent chance of 0-damage hits to your stomach.
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For crossbows, if you have higher harpoon resistance than the crossbow damage, do you take 0 damage?
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Vakal posted:Can you ever get your toughness and armor up to a point where trash mobs like bandits and fog men just hit you for no damage? My team had somewhat low toughness, but Armor can really give you a massive advantage. I took on the Bugmaster with a squad of people with combat skills of 20 or lower (plus my starting slaves who were jacked) - my crossbowman with no armor died, but everyone else got out of there with maybe 200 damage spread across all their damage zones. Like others have said, you probably won't get down to zero damage, but on my trip there I was getting hit for like two damage against trash mobs.
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I finally took out Phoenix in Blister hill. Boy was it something. I hired all the cannibal hunters, tech hunters and flotsam ninjas I could find then went to the back gate, put all my guys on hold and let all the mercs run in. The bughouse nearest the gate has a bugged door that people usually won't run though, but you can pick a guy up and drop him through the door. I cleared that house and put two dudes on the turrets while people slowly streamed out to fight my dudes outside the wall. Apparently you do much better 1 by 1 against strong enemies because they can't take out 8 dudes with one swing if everyone is on hold, then I just made sure everyone ran over to the medic when they covered from being knocked out. Not sure how you are supposed to have an honest fight against Protector of the Flame and Phoenix though, they have nearly 100 stats in everything. I think most people just KO him but I haven't bothered training my assassination up that high.
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Paranoid Peanut posted:holy crap this game is tough as nails... have started around three new games trying to get the ropes -- just keep getting owned no matter what. do the rock bottom start imo, it was pretty helpful for me. I did savescum a few times to avoid death (mostly in situations that sucked - like a patrol seemingly spawning on top of me). it was a good learning experience though. I was solo for like 15 hours? or so. my guys at like 50+ in most stats except dexterity (never used katanas and didn't know only they built it up?). also, I started a new game just to see what the guy and his dog start was like. i eventually made it to heft just recently. and I notice theres a torch built next to the copper deposit right outside town. In my first game I had built that torch there so I could mine better at night... why is it there in this new game? Tabletops fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Apr 13, 2019 |
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mauman posted:I'm getting ready to mount a campaign against them. I hear they have a very interesting ally. Prepare yourself for the King
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Tabletops posted:also, I started a new game just to see what the guy and his dog start was like. Did you start a new game directly from the old game? The game does weird things sometimes when you do that. I started one once and wound up with 100 in all stats. Kinda wish I'd kept that guy.
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Dareon posted:Did you start a new game directly from the old game? The game does weird things sometimes when you do that. I started one once and wound up with 100 in all stats. Kinda wish I'd kept that guy. hmm, I think I may have? I did encounter a bug where no one spawned in cities and stuff, just roamers. Read to import my save. I guess that may be it? hmm now i'm running into an issue where one of my characters who was enslaved in heft, keeps leaving her cell (like just leaving it, cause shes set to be an obedient slave) and immediately being knocked out by the police. IDGI. Tabletops fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Apr 13, 2019 |
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valuum posted:Also found a tower of goats and recruited a fat rum stealer. GOTY! You think the tower of goats is bad? I just stumbled upon a tower of elder blood spiders  . My guys are now pretty darn strong (having successfully brought HN to extinction, in reactive world no less), but that hurt. Still beat them but man those bastards hit HARD.I read about the rum stealer, but I could never find him. I wonder if he was thrown in prison while I wasn't looking since he evidently comes with a bounty in the very place he lives. Thinking of making another base with stobe's corpse as the center piece. The positioning of the base would give me relatively good access to both the UC, Ashlands, and southern hive for my military campaigns. Though I'll probably take out the reavers first. I'm allies with the crab raiders, and I think they're supposed to take over Ark so that would give me a next door Ally edit - taking arc right now...two crab raider patrols joined in the fun and are now following me 
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Weirdly enough I've still got all the gates starting locked, so all waystations, the hub, etc. Entirely reinstalled the game and it's persisting. Real weird.
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Hmm... now my character that's a slave has a 13k bounty because she keeps escaping even though shes set to obedient slave. IDGI. One of my other characters had to go and heal her before she died, somewhere outside the gates. this got him a bounty (????) and he got put in jail as well. I bailed him out since it was 1k. went up and picked him up (recovery coma). now he's marked an escaped prisoner. the gently caress also skimmers are literally spawning inside of heft lol. there are so many skimmer bodies everywhere. Tabletops fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Apr 13, 2019 |
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 I decided to see what the deal was with Arach. I actually accidentally picked the right angle to approach from (Swimming across the lake), so I just punched out the Bugmaster and hauled him back to the Stone Golem. It helped that this was my own custom cheaty start with 100 Strength and combat skills. Result: 
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Dareon posted:
oh wow, you got really lucky. Spiders will follow you into the lake, and I believe they can still attack you while in water.
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