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Elentor posted:Ivalice is probably the FF world I'd like to go the least. The closest I see to Ivalice being a nice world to live in is if you're like a citizen of the evil empire living in an utopic futuristic paradise during some time frame where wars aren't happening because it just looks like they're living in a cleaner prettier healthier version of Coruscant. I mean some of them don't suck after the end. Archadia might be fine under Larsa. Lindblum's probably a cool-rear end place to live after the war is over. Spira's basically an awesome beach world of cool sports and revealing clothing in the post-Sin era oh whoops he's back.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:14 |
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Should I just break II on my first play through? The mechanics sound poorly implemented and frustrating.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:15 |
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jokes posted:FF14 world seems to be a cool and chill place to live so long as you're not too tied to any specific governmental authority.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:22 |
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Actually having a Tactics Advance Judge means you can't die by ordinary means so I would take that any day. Plus I get to go on adventures. If a nerd like Luso can become a hero, surely I could too.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:27 |
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sponges posted:Should I just break II on my first play through? The mechanics sound poorly implemented and frustrating. Yes. It's not like you'll ever play it again.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:28 |
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Let's take a look at FF worlds and rate them in terms of how miserable life must be statistically speaking for you. FF1: You never need to know all the crap that happened but you still live in a generic fantasy world. I rate it one and a half closed time loops out of five. FF2: Hell literally exists. I rate it five Amano paintings out of five. FF5: You have the chance of witnessing a black hole sucking your city firsthand and you didn't even need a worldwide effort for that. And then your world merges with another which probably telefragged a few folks even if they were already one in the first place. I rate it five nihilistic speeches out of five. FF6: Average life seems to be fine until the world goes to complete poo poo. At which point you get a cinematic of the world cracking and going to poo poo. I rate it five Outlands out of five. FF7: Heavy pollution and a worldwide panic but at the end most people are reasonably safe. Statistically speaking there's a good chance of you being born as a normal Joe in some random town. I rate it two 1938s and one IT out of five. FF8: No. FF8: For real, let's see, time compression that affects everyone in every point in time, radio doesn't work because there's a crazy witch screaming from the moon. Moon bleeds monsters into the Planet which is some truly horrifying poo poo. Child soldiers being hired by governments. Governments being manipulated by witches and general violence all around. And there's a gigantic futuristic civilization that is hiding from you just because. OVNIs fly around. I rate it five 1938s out of five. FF9: Everyone is involved in a psychotic war, there's the mist. Otherwise life seems to be decent if you live pre or post the game events. I rate it two Legends of Legaia out of five. FF10: You're stuck in a strange middle age where sacrifices are constantly needed and monsters assault people but it seems like to an average citizen nothing too bad is going on other than the worldwide panic that Sin will gently caress things up. FF10-2 seems to be the best world around. I rate FF10 three out of five Junji Itos and FF10-2 one out of five Disney Musicals. FF12: There are multiple variants of oppressed people you can pick, mad max gangs, and then there's the evil empire that looks pretty drat utopic. I rate it two and a half Dredds out of five. Vagrant Story: We don't see much of the world, they seem to live in a... like almost but not quite modern environment? Most of the game is spent in ruins of the old world, but the rest of the world seems like London a century ago. I rate it two assless chaps out of five. FF13: "I'd say that qualifies as a demolition" is what one of the characters says about the state of the world you lived in. I rate it six "Cocoon has seen better days, that's for sure" out of five. FF14: Every realm is in a constant red alert and state of war. Civilizations are constantly destroyed. Very hard to imagine what an average life is like but it seems like the best life would still be of someone dreading a gigantic dragon or an end-of-world-causing-amnesia or an invasion of the evil empire at any time. Thinking too hard about evil gods make them exist. On top of that if things get too good things to go poo poo too so it's FF3 all over. I rate it three benzodiazepines and half a painkiller out of five. And the winner for world least likely to gently caress you up is FF10-2. Elentor fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Living on Hydalaen sounds great until you realize that their calendar system is literally "it has been XX days since the last apocalypse".
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:49 |
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FFTA2 Jylland is probably the best option, really.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:52 |
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I definitely wanted to be a SeeD when I was a kid I'm the third gunblade specialist, standing just off screen near Squall and Seifer
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:54 |
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XV - Life was fine outside of the whole never ending war between two nations and night time getting longer and big iron giants showing up the moment you do a night drive. Then the war ends and a never ending night begins. You may have a iphone and dinners, but a pretty awful world I imagine.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:56 |
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II - You're dead.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:57 |
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FFTA seems like a cool place to live, you get to do all the cool fantasy poo poo but there's never any real danger. In every other one it's dangerous to leave your house because there are monsters everywhere, with the world being varying degrees of poo poo beyond that.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 22:59 |
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Spira circa FFX-2 : the world's already been saved, there's organized sports and broadcast television. Also shoopuffs.
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 23:06 |
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Ffta2 seems like the best one. Even if you're just some farmer, life seems pretty cool, and if you ever forget to pick up sugar from the store or have a pack of wild animals threatening you are your doorstep, the clans will take care of literally any problem you might have for some money
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 23:13 |
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Average life in crystal chronicles also seems pretty chill as long as you're not in the caravans and also your town has a good caravan
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 23:15 |
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FFV: The world is being destroyed by Cloud of Darkness Mk 2. It's a gigantic tree made of all evil that wants to destroy the entire universe. Standing between you and annihilation is a guy named Butts who looks like this:
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 23:16 |
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Mega64 posted:Yes. It's not like you'll ever play it again. Ive played 2 on the gba countless times
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# ? Apr 12, 2019 23:31 |
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Elentor posted:words why are 3 & 4 missing?
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Time Kompression.Mega64 posted:Yes. It's not like you'll ever play it again.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 00:07 |
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mateo360 posted:why are 3 & 4 missing? Because I honestly don't remember them enough. I mention 3 just to make sure it's not entirely missing but 4 was one I played a long time ago and unlike the others I never got to replaying it as an adult so I don't remember enough of it to joke about its world.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 00:31 |
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It’s not final fantasy, but I dusted off my Vita a few weeks ago cuz I had a hankering for Tactics Ogre. Man, I like this game, I’m grinding out drat glass pumpkins for Deneb, since I never did it before and then I swear to god I’m gonna dive into the palace of the dead. I’m gonna get deeper than level 25 because I hate myself.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 00:55 |
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Mega64 posted:If you could leave the real world to go to Ivalice, would you? you know, judging from FFT Ivalice it seems like you're terribly at risk if you aren't blonde and have blue eyes so nah FFTA2 or FFXII Ivalice sounds good tho
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 01:09 |
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4's world is pretty much the same as 1's, except there's a giant Mecha in it for all of 5 minutes.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 01:12 |
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Probably FFXV for me, because it's basically just the real world except with monsters and the caveat of never going out at night. In fact, post game, it basically is just the real world but with monsters.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 01:14 |
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Madmarker posted:............Maybe FFXII Ivalice. You could also spend a day standing in a field yelling over and over and if someone tried to attack you you'd basically be The Flash. sponges posted:Should I just break II on my first play through? The mechanics sound poorly implemented and frustrating. Yes.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 01:22 |
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8 seems like a decent enough place to live in.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 03:08 |
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FFTA2's Ivalice is definitely the place to live. It's got the bunny girls, the immortality, and the Judges are just kinda there instead of completely spoiling your fun. Did that game even have a plot other than "go do sidequest adventures"? I honestly cannot remember.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 03:13 |
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Bongo Bill posted:8 seems like a decent enough place to live in. yeah I had satellite tv that would get taken out by rain I imagine "well the moon witch is screaming again I'm gonna miss my stories" wouldn't be very different
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 03:18 |
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FF8's end of the world threat is also the most pleasant since the average person wont even know its happening and may not even be aware they got killed by it.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 03:33 |
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Barudak posted:FF8's end of the world threat is also the most pleasant since the average person wont even know its happening and may not even be aware they got killed by it. Did they get killed or was it more of an ontological un-being-ing? FFTA to FFTA2, is it a different world or just a change to the law system?
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 04:23 |
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5 honestly seems like one of the least terrifying apocalypse scenarios in the FF series, because I don't think anyone actually dies to it. Even the towns that get sucked into the void come back safe and sound, although they might've Seen Some poo poo in there. Although I feel like, realistically, mashing those two worlds into one is going to cause some political clusterfucks a few years down the line. Sure, at the time they're panicking about Exdeath's machinations and immediately after they're celebrating for a while, but it's only a matter of time until there's a border dispute between Walse and Surgate or something that can't be solved because the borders no longer make sense.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 04:44 |
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ItBreathes posted:Did they get killed or was it more of an ontological un-being-ing? A1 Ivalice is a magical constructed world created by the grimore that Marche and Co. get sucked into. It's influenced by the real Ivalice supposedly. A2 takes place in the real Ivalice, in the Jylland region, after the events of XII. Luso pretty much gets yanked through time to get there.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 04:47 |
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ItBreathes posted:Did they get killed or was it more of an ontological un-being-ing? AFAIK because boy is it confusing and not well explained, you just get poofed out of time so everything adjusts itself around you no longer existing. Only load bearing people get to remain in the time stream.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 04:53 |
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So my beating the final boss of Dissidia NT with a team consisting of the Emperor, Vayne and Jecht started up a conversation with a friend of mine: What three FF villains would be the worst to have save the world? Because the Emperor and Vayne are definitely pretty high up there, them saving the world validates their empires. Within the NT cast, putting a third in there actually gets kind of hard. It's probably not actually all that worrisome if some of the more actually outright monstrous villains get in there (Exdeath, Cloud of Darkness, kinda Kefka), because that doesn't really change the status quo, they're still cackling monsters. Villains with redemption arcs probably aren't so bad (Golbez, Jecht) because their games do show them to actually be pretty okay when the chips are down. Garland is evil but mostly just shouty, so he's probably not going to do too much damage. Zenos is a tough call because his story's not done yet, and Sephiroth is a bit of a wildcard because we don't actually know which Sephiroth this is; if it's 'essentially human but still a SOLDIER' Sephiroth then we're in for some trouble because he's still got a mind, but if it's Jenova avatar Sepiroth we're dealing with an outright-monster situation where not much changes. My friend's pick for a third within NT was Ultimecia, because she's still kinda crazy megalomaniacal, but I think ultimately she still wants life to go on, it's just on her absurd terms. My pick is Kuja, because I feel like he's basically a narcissist and we REALLY don't want that sort of person having saved the world. But outside NT, my pick is Gaius from XIV. Because while the Emperor and Vayne are doing it for their own gains, Gaius genuinely believes in imperialism, and that's REALLY not what we want wearing the 'saved the world' crown.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 11:13 |
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Schwartzcough posted:Did that game even have a plot other than "go do sidequest adventures"? I honestly cannot remember. Yeah the evil fantasy mafia shot your best friend Cid and you gotta get around to beating them up eventually
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 11:18 |
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Cleretic posted:What three FF villains would be the worst to have save the world? Because the Emperor and Vayne are definitely pretty high up there, them saving the world validates their empires. Third would be Marche.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 11:22 |
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https://twitter.com/cleartonic/status/1116880856046608384 There's a FF5 open world randomizer in beta testing right now, similar in scope to Free Enterprise.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 11:27 |
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Trasson posted:FFTA2 Jylland is probably the best option, really. This is what I would pick yeah.
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# ? Apr 13, 2019 15:11 |
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Following on from FFXV chat a few pages back... I got a copy at Christmas, played through to the start of Chapter 5 (after the fight against Titan) and then just put it down for good. I had zero idea what on earth was going on beyond the basic "two armies fighting" idea, found the car mechanic kind of pointless (unless I can actually control the car, it's just time spent sat waiting for the game to actually continue). At the point I quit, I'd just done the fight with Titan (beautiful graphics, really great concept for a boss fight....absolute mess of button mashing, terrible camera angles and poorly explained battle mechanics in reality) and the story had just changed in a way that suggested they were dropping some of the story threads from the first few chapters without ever actually really explaining them. It was then I discovered there was also an anime series and movie to watch, which might have actually explained the game? Was really wanting to like it but had sunk a fair few hours and still not started to be really engaged, so I picked up the remaster of FFXII and had a blast. I also refuse to watch a (probably) piss poor anime and movie to passively be introduced to the world, when one of the best bits of Final Fantasys is being able to do that in an interactive way. (Writing that out, it's actually been quite a while so I am more vague than I thought I was on what turned me off. Maybe I'll try it again one day, if it actually gets better after that point? Might just not be for me, though) Edit: Also, Elentor posted:FF7: Heavy pollution and a worldwide panic but at the end most people are reasonably safe. Statistically speaking there's a good chance of you being born as a normal Joe in some random town. I rate it two 1938s and one IT out of five.
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You don't need to watch any of the anime stuff to understand the story
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