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WilliamAnderson posted:So this is a list of games I came up with, probably a bunch of them are crap, but if anyone sees any glaring omissions, let me know. This is a good list, but you might also consider: Armored Core Bushido Blade 1+2 Crash Team Racing Ergheiz Suikoden 1+2 Twisted Metal 2 Tenchu Jackie Chan Stuntmaster Also, I think you'll need analog sticks for Ape Escape, so you'll need something other than the controllers bundled with the PS Classic for that. McCoy Pauley fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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McCoy Pauley posted:This is a good list, but you might also consider: Ape Escape is unplayable without a Dualshock because the R-Stick's used for swinging your Gadgets about.
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Apr 12, 2019 14:30
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univbee posted:where are they down to $40CAD? gonna pick some up at that price. Walmart, they're definitely trying to liquidate stock. Says it's a sale until April 26. Also, thanks for the advice everyone! Avoided fighting games on the list since the second controller slot will have the USB stick in it. Croc was only on the list to see how bad it was, since I saw all the ads for it as a kid.
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Apr 12, 2019 15:57
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i had no idea Croc was originally planned as a Yoshi game, thats hilarious. its controls were some of the most obtuse and terrible id ever seen in a platformer. maybe croc 2 is better?
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Apr 12, 2019 16:08
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From what I remember, they were surprised and offended that Nintendo turned them down, too. "What are they thinking? This is revolutionary! We made a platformer in 3D!" Then Mario 64 came out
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Apr 12, 2019 16:13
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WilliamAnderson posted:Walmart, they're definitely trying to liquidate stock. Says it's a sale until April 26. Last I checked the state of PS Classic modding, it sounded like eventually something was going to be worked out to allow you to use a thumb drive in the back, with an OTG cable, freeing up both front ports. Also, I believe that even right now, one can use a powered USB hub to allow for up to 4 controllers in Port 1. I haven't tested it, but if in fact that works, then having 4 local players would make Circuit Breakers pretty much the best PS1 game one could play.
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Apr 12, 2019 16:22
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It is possible to use a Dualshock 4 on a Playstation Classic if you use the 8bitdo adapter. You can even go into the emulator settings and set up the control sticks.
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Apr 12, 2019 16:22
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Detective No. 27 posted:It is possible to use a Dualshock 4 on a Playstation Classic if you use the 8bitdo adapter. You can even go into the emulator settings and set up the control sticks. Does the 8bitdo adapter let you connect multiple controllers? Like could I use 4 DS4s with it?
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Apr 12, 2019 16:28
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McCoy Pauley posted:Does the 8bitdo adapter let you connect multiple controllers? Like could I use 4 DS4s with it? One receiver per controller. I looked that one up for a retrogaming PC I'm building that I can't use normal bluetooth on for compatibility reasons.
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Apr 12, 2019 16:33
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Dash Rendar posted:i had no idea Croc was originally planned as a Yoshi game, thats hilarious. its controls were some of the most obtuse and terrible id ever seen in a platformer. maybe croc 2 is better? I had no idea either. I haven't played Croc myself, all I know of it is to stay well away from it.
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Apr 12, 2019 16:39
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it's a platformer with tank controls. that pretty much says it all.
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Apr 12, 2019 16:48
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List also does not contain Einhander. Trash list for trash classic console
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WilliamAnderson posted:So this is a list of games I came up with, probably a bunch of them are crap, but if anyone sees any glaring omissions, let me know. From that list that I can comment on and without worrying about what's missing: dragon warrior VII - 3DS remake that I'm assuming is better (though I don't like it to begin with tbh) final fantasy anthology - Has the worst version of those games final fantasy chronicles - Has the worst version of those games final fantasy tactics - People are still attached to this vs. the new translation but there is a newer translation (it's more coherent at least) grandia - This is getting a PC and Switch port that is supposed to merge things between the PS1 and Saturn versions ogre battle: the march of the black queen - This is a port of the SNES game except it has load times persona - Has a better version on the PSP without a weirdo translation and a blackface character reboot - just a terrible loving awful game tactics ogre: let us cling together - Also a port of a SNES game which eventually got a fan translation, but also there's a remake on PSP tomb raider 1-5 - Maybe don't need to play any after 2, at least not 3 or 5. Edit: Games I would add: Ace Combat 2 Alundra Brave Fencer Musashi Bushido Blade Bushido Blade 2 Einhander Front Mission 3 G Darius Ghost in the Shell Heart of Darkness Klonoa Koudelka Philosoma R4 Rising Zan SaGa Frontier SaGa Frontier 2 Silent Bomber Strider 2 Suikoden Suikoden II Tail Concerto Tales of Phantasia w/ Translation Patch The Granstream Saga Tomba! Tomba! 2 Treasures of the Deep Phantasium fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 12, 2019 16:58
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Trap Gunner is a fun spy vs spy style game that has some issues but the presentation and amazingly inappropriate character select song make it a classic. The announcer is also great. I can hear him pronouncing the character Names as I sleep
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Apr 12, 2019 18:29
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Phantasium posted:ogre battle: the march of the black queen - This is a port of the SNES game except it has load times  After being imprisoned for 20 years I thought he deserved a second chance at life 
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FilthyImp posted:List also does not contain Einhander. Was also going to say this. Einhander was so cool.
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There was a time in the era of great chaos When the earth and the moon were at war with each other. *cue kicking Rad music*
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Overbite posted:Trap Gunner is a fun spy vs spy style game that has some issues but the presentation and amazingly inappropriate character select song make it a classic. The announcer is also great. I can hear him pronouncing the character Names as I sleep In that regard Ehrgeiz is also a good candidate, having quite possibly the most obnoxious menu sound effects in a game.
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Apr 13, 2019 01:50
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RandomFerret posted:From what I remember, they were surprised and offended that Nintendo turned them down, too. "What are they thinking? This is revolutionary! We made a platformer in 3D!" The president of Argonaut claimed Nintendo stole their idea for a 3D platfomer when they made Mario 64, as if "3D platformer" is something only they could have thought up.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:The president of Argonaut claimed Nintendo stole their idea for a 3D platfomer when they made Mario 64, as if "3D platformer" is something only they could have thought up. Especially when Andross/etc. most certainly were inspired by I, Robot from 1984. There's also an older Midway game called Blaster that's like, I mean it's 2D graphics but holy loving poo poo that game is amazing and it has the archways to fly under for stuff like Starfox and everything.
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Overbite posted:The announcer is also great. I can hear him pronouncing the character Names as I sleep I remember the title being spoken and under a lot of processing for some reason.
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Apr 13, 2019 03:10
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Please throw Devil Dice on that list thank you.
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I played Croc a bunch as a kid and sucked at it, always wondered if Argonaut was related to the Argonaut in the credits of Star Fox. Apparently it was considered mediocre at the time but sold pretty well probably because it was cute and marketable. I actually played Croc 2, it's bad.
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FilthyImp posted:TRAAAP GUNN NERR I was remembering something different so I looked it up and apparently the japanese and english versions had different announcers. This is the japanese version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCliOdlQuTc&t=110s This is the US version which is the one I think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAugCi7r1Kk&t=21s Also yea Devil Dice is great
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No love for Ehrgeiz?
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WilliamAnderson posted:So this is a list of games I came up with, probably a bunch of them are crap, but if anyone sees any glaring omissions, let me know. Check out Alundra, Clock Tower, Discworld, Road Rash, Robopit, King’s Field 1 and 2, and Suikoden 1 and 2
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How is the input lag on the SNES Classic compared to a Raspberry Pi? Is this effected if you dump a bunch of roms on it vs. playing the already included games?
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WilliamAnderson posted:So this is a list of games I came up with, probably a bunch of them are crap, but if anyone sees any glaring omissions, let me know. Toss out Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3 and put in THPS 1 and 2. THPS 3 is a PS2/Xbox/GC era game, the PS1 version is an inferior (but surprisingly not entirely awful) version that tried to shove stripped-down versions of 3’s levels and moves into the older PS1-era game engine. THPS 1 and 2 were the classic PS1-era skating games and still hold up as fun games.
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Blotto_Otter posted:Toss out Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3 and put in THPS 1 and 2. THPS 3 is a PS2/Xbox/GC era game, the PS1 version is an inferior (but surprisingly not entirely awful) version that tried to shove stripped-down versions of 3’s levels and moves into the older PS1-era game engine. THPS 1 and 2 were the classic PS1-era skating games and still hold up as fun games. Yeah, THPS1 is a wonderful game, but it's almost like Mega Man 1 compared to Mega Man 2; 1 showed the concept, and 2 made it perfect. Except THPS1 isn't bullshit hard or as comparatively janky as MM1. Maybe a better comparison would be Portal 1 vs Portal 2. Both great, but 2 is just so much better than the first.
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Neo Rasa posted:How is the input lag on the SNES Classic compared to a Raspberry Pi? Is this effected if you dump a bunch of roms on it vs. playing the already included games? I haven’t noticed any input lag from any game on the SNES classic, original games or games that were added later included. There is some slowdown in games that had slowdown on the original hardware, like Star Fox and Mega Man X, but that’s not really input lag.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Yeah, THPS1 is a wonderful game, but it's almost like Mega Man 1 compared to Mega Man 2; 1 showed the concept, and 2 made it perfect. I completely agree. THPS 2 is my favorite (though on some days I might put 3 up there with it, in terms of gameplay) and was a huge, huge jump from 1 - but 1 is still fun and it's remarkable how of the formula they nailed right out of the gate. I replayed 1 and 2 a few months ago and I think they hold up a lot better than most games from the PS1/N64 era. But then again, I also think 1-3 hold up better than anything after THPS 4, so maybe I'm just old.
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That soundtrack in THPS2  BRING THE NOISE
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Blotto_Otter posted:I completely agree. THPS 2 is my favorite (though on some days I might put 3 up there with it, in terms of gameplay) and was a huge, huge jump from 1 - but 1 is still fun and it's remarkable how of the formula they nailed right out of the gate. I replayed 1 and 2 a few months ago and I think they hold up a lot better than most games from the PS1/N64 era. But then again, I also think 1-3 hold up better than anything after THPS 4, so maybe I'm just old. When I was selling my Dreamcast collection, I went through a binder of about 150 games to test all the discs were working. As soon as I got to THPS2 the night came to an end as man it's impossible to put that game down.
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Blotto_Otter posted:I completely agree. THPS 2 is my favorite (though on some days I might put 3 up there with it, in terms of gameplay) and was a huge, huge jump from 1 - but 1 is still fun and it's remarkable how of the formula they nailed right out of the gate. I replayed 1 and 2 a few months ago and I think they hold up a lot better than most games from the PS1/N64 era. But then again, I also think 1-3 hold up better than anything after THPS 4, so maybe I'm just old. Yeah, that's exactly it; the skating 'feel' is incredible, even in 1, and with 2, they just added to it, without taking anything away. It's literally more and more of the same, which at that time was exactly what everyone wanted. Man, I went from THPS1 on N64 to THPS2 on Dreamcast, and hoooooooly poo poo  And then my Dreamcast stopped reading discs properly 
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EL BROMANCE posted:When I was selling my Dreamcast collection, I went through a binder of about 150 games to test all the discs were working. As soon as I got to THPS2 the night came to an end as man it's impossible to put that game down. My two biggest retro gaming dreams are 1) current ports or re-issues of THPS 1/2/3 (I don't even care if they're just ROMs wrapped in an emulator, just put 'em on my Switch or PS4) or 2) a Dreamcast classic that I can hack and turn into a THPS1/2 and Crazy Taxi machine. Emphasis on the word "dreams" because I have made my peace with the fact that these things will never happen. e: probably going to wind up buying one of those SD card thingamajigs for my Dreamcast some day just so that I can play the best versions of THPS1/2 forever.
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They did that with the tony hawk game released a few years ago. It was a blend of levels from 1 and 2. Everyone hated it because, surprise, the music contributed a lot of the feel of those games and that's expensive.
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As long as they conveniently leave it easy enough to add a "custom soundtrack" then all will be good.
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Cojawfee posted:They did that with the tony hawk game released a few years ago. It was a blend of levels from 1 and 2. Everyone hated it because, surprise, the music contributed a lot of the feel of those games and that's expensive. Everyone I know hated it because the physics were wack and felt like some off brand bargain bin ripoff too
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it was rushed out because they were losing the license and needed to make one asap to bleed a little more money out of it. the discs didn't ship with most of the game on it, it was on a day one patch because the game presumably wasn't finished when they printed the discs
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Cojawfee posted:They did that with the tony hawk game released a few years ago. It was a blend of levels from 1 and 2. Everyone hated it because, surprise, the music contributed a lot of the feel of those games and that's expensive. I never picked that up because I heard bad things about it. The music is a huge deal (and also the reason we'll never see complete re-releases of those games), but IIRC it also only had a handful of levels, and I heard some complaints that the physics didn't feel quite right. I had a 360 at the time and that could play the Xbox versions of 2x and 3, so "only a handful of levels from 1 and 2 without the music and with questionable physics" didn't seem that great to me. I probably should've picked it up to try but too late now, it got delisted from XBLA a couple years back. It would've been nice to see a brand-new iteration of the classic formula done by a competent developer, but I'm pretty sure THPS5 has guaranteed that'll never happen. RIP Tony Hawk. e: I just remembered that Activision ported THPS 2 to iOS way back when! IIRC the soundtrack was not intact, but you could play songs from your phone's library if you wanted. And then it got delisted from the app store at some point, and then iOS 7introduced a game-crashing bug at launch, rendering it unplayable. 
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