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Wyld Karde
Mar 18, 2013

She's so ~dreamy~
Ten minute 'First Look at Green Mars' video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl71mYFrTug

Some things I noticed:

New Terraforming mission sponsor.

Terraforming techs are a new line on the now vertically orientated tech tree.

Terraforming related remote missons available on the planetary map.

Terrain manipulation is a job handed to drones. Removing hills will generate waste rock.

Drag-select a mass of drones is now available.

'Martian' style disasters like dust storms and cold waves will abate as Mars is terraformed, but issues like flash flooding and marsquakes can happen.

Wyld Karde fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Apr 12, 2019

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The terrain deformation is a very nice addition.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

How many new radio stations?

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Wyld Karde posted:


Drag-select a mass of drones is now available.

Buying just for this

Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013


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Welp, failed the mystery. Didn't know that was possible. Is there any point to continuing this save or should I just start over?

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
You can still get your sponsor goals I guess. The game is pretty sandboxy so stick with it if you like your colony or start a new one if not.

HiKaizer
Feb 2, 2012

Yes!
I finally understand everything there is to know about axes!
Which mystery did you fail?

Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013


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Beyond earth. Also failed a sponsor goal early on so rip me.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Beyond Earth is one of the harder ones because of how resource intensive it is. Though if you can get them some of the bonuses are nice. Extra fusion reactor output and Ganymede Rice are tasty.

metasynthetic
Dec 2, 2005

in one moment, Earth

in the next, Heaven

Megamarm
Took some screen caps of the visible tooltips for the new buildings:




Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

I am a big fan of the Mars trilogy and the boardgame Terraforming Mars so this is going to be extremely my jam.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Alkydere posted:

Beyond Earth is one of the harder ones because of how resource intensive it is. Though if you can get them some of the bonuses are nice. Extra fusion reactor output and Ganymede Rice are tasty.

It's also a really odd one, because of all the mysteries you can just blow it off entirely. Even the easy mysteries make you do something--anything--in response to an initiating event of some sort but Beyond Earth is just "hey which bonuses would you like to have paid for by sol 150 or whatever?"

I was very quietly skeptical about the new DLC but that quick look seems to be exactly what I want out of it: a cool looking thing to use your 8000 concrete and 6 rockets on.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Willie Tomg posted:

It's also a really odd one, because of all the mysteries you can just blow it off entirely. Even the easy mysteries make you do something--anything--in response to an initiating event of some sort but Beyond Earth is just "hey which bonuses would you like to have paid for by sol 150 or whatever?"

I was very quietly skeptical about the new DLC but that quick look seems to be exactly what I want out of it: a cool looking thing to use your 8000 concrete and 6 rockets on.

Metals one, Polymer one, one other since those are the two easiest resources to get up and running before Rede Goddenberry kicks the bucket. That being said, as much as I like the writing for that one it's very much the dullest and most frustrating mystery and if I roll Random and get it I basically re-roll because I've done it a few times. It's also one of the most crippling ones early on.

Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013


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Game 3 is going much better, up to 150 colonists before sol 40. Planning a separate unconnected dome complex for the first time is tough, though so far I've managed to avoid any crucial resource bottlenecks. I get the feeling I'm really going to miss being able to buy more applicants in future games now that I know what I'm doing.

TigerXtrm
Feb 2, 2019
Hold up, is this a free DLC?

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
No, why would it be free?

Fell Fire
Jan 30, 2012


It's "free" if you got the season pass, which is honestly one of the better decisions I made way back when.

TigerXtrm
Feb 2, 2019

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

No, why would it be free?

I was confused because of Steam's DLC page no listing a price and said "Available". Guess I misinterpreted that.

Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013


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The absolute worst feeling in this game:

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
I really wish you could do plans/blueprints like in Prison Architect.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

You sort of can by placing something and then turning it off, it won't get built until you turn it back on again.

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


I really wish you could attach tubes to the entrances of a dome, that way you don’t have to eat up precious space inside said dome.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
The developers said that they considered it but they wanted tunnel attachments to have more decision weight behind it so that's why it takes a hex.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
One of the only mods I have installed is the extra passage length one. Its not too game-breaking and if it wasn't for the "will only traverse one passage" AI I'd mitigate it with a micro/basic dome serving as a hub.

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

Fell Fire posted:

It's "free" if you got the season pass, which is honestly one of the better decisions I made way back when.

I paid like 45€ for the package which included season pass. The price was ridiculous, especially since I just keep on getting more free content. Sure like not getting nickel&dimed.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Ihmemies posted:

I paid like 45€ for the package which included season pass. The price was ridiculous, especially since I just keep on getting more free content. Sure like not getting nickel&dimed.

Yeah, I got the Season Pass when the game came out and it's been one of the best deals ever. The game just keeps getting better and better from the bare-bones shell it was at the start.

I mean at this point I wouldn't mind tossing them some money, but I'm not exactly free I got in on a good deal.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
Are micro domes useful for anything?

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Are micro domes useful for anything?

Yeah they’re cheap places to dump some factories for a small dome with habitation.

Boksi
Jan 11, 2016

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Are micro domes useful for anything?

Not requiring a lot of space? Not requiring polymers to build or maintain? That's about it.

metasynthetic
Dec 2, 2005

in one moment, Earth

in the next, Heaven

Megamarm
You can build solar panels / stirling generators inside them to shield them from the elements, I think this prevents them from using maintenance but not 100% sure on that.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

metasynthetic posted:

You can build solar panels / stirling generators inside them to shield them from the elements, I think this prevents them from using maintenance but not 100% sure on that.

It does (or it used to) and I never knew that until someone pointed it out ITT.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

metasynthetic posted:

You can build solar panels / stirling generators inside them to shield them from the elements, I think this prevents them from using maintenance but not 100% sure on that.

It keeps them from getting dusty and requiring additional drone attention beyond their maintenance cycles, but they still have the in-dome maintenance cycle requirement afaik. Still not a bad deal.

metasynthetic
Dec 2, 2005

in one moment, Earth

in the next, Heaven

Megamarm
I actually used this once on a map that had some kind of combo of Chaos Theory / native weather / mystery / horrible mismanagement such that it was a legit practical choice

Dunite
Oct 12, 2013
Since the new patch includes pets, can you elect to slaughter your pet for a severe sanity hit to provide for food during starvation? (ala Dwarf Fortress/Rimworld)

Guildencrantz
May 1, 2012

IM ONE OF THE GOOD ONES

Willie Tomg posted:

It keeps them from getting dusty and requiring additional drone attention beyond their maintenance cycles, but they still have the in-dome maintenance cycle requirement afaik. Still not a bad deal.

You can also use them to keep solar panels working during dust storms, but honestly I wouldn't build a dome just for that unless I finally get around to playing with the max dust storm game rule.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Back Hack posted:

Sad bit about IRL Mar colonization effort is that Mars can't be terraformed, like ever. :smith:

I wouldn't say never, just certainly not in our lifetime (which i suppose you can argue is basically the same thing). Everything we do today would have been considered impossible 4000 years ago. Imagine what we'll know in another 4000!

Probably that nukes are real good at killing and that we've all made a terrible mistake, but eh :v:

Mechanical Ape
Aug 7, 2007

But yes, occasionally I am known to smash.
Are rival colonies on board with terraforming, or will they start objecting to all the acid rain and marsquakes you’re causing?

Mechanical Ape fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Apr 15, 2019

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

dogstile posted:

I wouldn't say never, just certainly not in our lifetime (which i suppose you can argue is basically the same thing). Everything we do today would have been considered impossible 4000 years ago. Imagine what we'll know in another 4000!

Probably that nukes are real good at killing and that we've all made a terrible mistake, but eh :v:

Mars can't be terraformed because its core is dead and it has no magnetosphere; unsuited, unmodified humans will always have to live well under the surface even if a rad-tolerant biosphere can somehow be generated.

Blankspace
Dec 13, 2006
So I'm super sorry if this has been asked before, but once you select a Mystery are you only locked into that one for the whole game? Is there any way at all to trigger a new one after you complete one? I don't know if this question makes sense. I want to just do random ones for the surprise but my worry is that I'll get something boring or not good and that it will make me want to end my game after x number of hours. I like the game so far alot other than that, but if it's just a way to encourage replayability I'll get over it.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Well, also mysteries are supposed to be a challenge and that ties into you being at a certain level when you hit one. If you did one mystery after another the second one wouldn't be remotely challenging.

You get one mystery per playthrough.

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