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*slaps the roof of France* this bad boy can fit so many nuclear explosions in it
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Of the three options 1) Ally with either the Fascists or Monarchists against the other, 2) No allies but our first target should be the only other communist great power, 3) Make an alliance among the other communist states, Goons chose 2 and now are upset that no one wants to ally with them.
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Apr 15, 2019 15:58
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To be fair, we did end up kind of going with 3 out of convenience anyhow. Not that it's helped 
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Grizzwold posted:To be fair, we did end up kind of going with 3 out of convenience anyhow. Not that it's helped There was a lot more to 3 than just an alliance.
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Nuking the French is the best possible ending we could hope for at this point. We have the premier air force so maybe it's a realistic possibility?  I have no idea how nukes work in HoI4
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Considering how salty I've occasionally been over the continual  -votes I really should be happy things are looking so sour, shouldn't I?
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Captain Oblivious posted:Nuking the French is the best possible ending we could hope for at this point. We have the premier air force so maybe it's a realistic possibility? To nuke a place you need air superiority in that province and a strategic bomber in range, as long as we maintain our airforce edge we should at least be safe from getting nuked in Iberia and if we develop our own should have a relatively easy time deploying them. Just don't ever under any circumstances lose air superiority over Iberia.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Nuking the French is the best possible ending we could hope for at this point. We have the premier air force so maybe it's a realistic possibility? it will be cool when we become war criminals responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians and lose the war anyway QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Apr 15, 2019 |
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Apr 15, 2019 17:22
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RabidWeasel posted:The ideology argument kind of went out of the window when New England joined the full fascist world domination team, apparently it doesn't matter as much as it should. Honestly it's never mattered that much. Most countries just generally try to act in their own interests with foreign policy and save ideology for domestic policy. Only real differences are that fascists are more likely to start wars and communists don't have economic ties to help them with foreign relations. QuoProQuid posted:Admittedly, Ibriz probably didn’t help matters by issuing a proclamation blaming New England for the civil war and promising swift, brutal retribution against them. To be fair, New England was totally responsible for that civil war.
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Do not fear the Mushroom Cloud. It brings light, it brings liberation. Leave your bunkers, workers of France, and walk hand-in-hand into the Mushroom Cloud. Either Europe will be Red or it will be Dead. Rejoice!!
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Apr 15, 2019 17:40
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Hashim posted:Now that you mention it, I've been having a hard time trying to get Ireland into our alliance, they're just not interested.  Aren't they in already?
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Maybe Ireland has some residual sympathy for the Catholic Church and is harboring thinly veiled hard feelings about Iberia's invasion of the Papal States, at least from a narrative perspective. From a mechanics perspective, I guess I can see why they'd want to sit this one out. To bad we can't just send a Portuguese/Basque delegation to appeal to them as fellow (former) Catholics and mutual enemies of the thrice-damned Franks.
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QuoProQuid posted:it will be cool when we become war criminals responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians and lose the war anyway Unironically agreed.
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Apr 15, 2019 18:01
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We're pretty screwed, aren't we?
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People are way too doom and gloom about this. Francia still has to commit tremendous resources in the East, through terrible terrain and supply, and we've now created a front large enough that they simply can't steamroll us back with ease as they would have to equally distribute across it. We seem to have undisputed control over the Mediterranean and if Britain is underdefended we can likely Sealion our way into taking out a large part of their industry and manpower, while continuing to exert our air advantage and exploiting every weakness possible in a push towards Paris. We have a haymaker's chance to really turn the tide. We won't have a manpower advantage but we have the strategic, tactical, and air/naval advantages. We're in a better position than we have been in the whole war, and even Ibriz being a total idjit, we're still not at war with the Berber Union which may counterbalance the efforts of New England since they are now at war with the Paris Pact, which especially if the Berbers have a good navy might have unpredictable results for the war effort.
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ZearothK posted:
This screenshot is from a few months later, which is why the borders don't match up exactly with other pictures. But I eventually got them yeah.
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Tricky Dick Nixon posted:People are way too doom and gloom about this. Francia still has to commit tremendous resources in the East, through terrible terrain and supply, and we've now created a front large enough that they simply can't steamroll us back with ease as they would have to equally distribute across it. We seem to have undisputed control over the Mediterranean and if Britain is underdefended we can likely Sealion our way into taking out a large part of their industry and manpower, while continuing to exert our air advantage and exploiting every weakness possible in a push towards Paris. The Berber Union and New England are actually going tit-for-tat on the naval game at the moment, they've been building up massive navies while everyone else was squabbling, so they'll be battling it out for domination of the seas.
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Apr 15, 2019 18:54
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Hashim posted:The Berber Union and New England are actually going tit-for-tat on the naval game at the moment, they've been building up massive navies while everyone else was squabbling, so they'll be battling it out for domination of the seas. That's probably the only saving grace from the Gharbian communists in that it's a proper three way war and everyone hates each other in such a way that if you push too hard on one foe, the other might gain ground on you. Unfortunately, Ibriz is the weakest of the three parties and it's unlikely that the Republicans of Souther Gharbia and their allies would make peace with the Communists against the Fascists.
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Upon taking a second look at those maps from the future, it looks like the fascists aren’t doing as well as I initially feared. We’re making steady progress on liberating Provence from the Franks. Socialist Germany is making a comeback in Libya against the Egyptians. The Moroccans are gobbling up Indonesia and will soon force Bengal to fight on three fronts, freeing up more Manchurians and Mongolian to focus on the Paris Pact. We’re far from being in a good situation, but there is both good news and bad news for all factions.
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Apr 15, 2019 19:33
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Oh wow how did I miss the Free German forces taking over Libya that owns
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With air superiority and naval superiority, Iberia can literally never be threatened so long as Hash builds forts on the Pyrenees. Stick some dudes on the ports, hit speed 5, man the forts, and then go watch avengers end game. By the time you come back the Paris pact will be running divisions with 2% of their TOE and it’s just a matter of occupying land to capitulate them.
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The berbers still have to chew through New France before reaching Panama, right? Is there a way the won't declare against our faction if Ibriz captures the Panama Channel fast enough?
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Red John posted:With air superiority and naval superiority, Iberia can literally never be threatened so long as Hash builds forts on the Pyrenees. Stick some dudes on the ports, hit speed 5, man the forts, and then go watch avengers end game. By the time you come back the Paris pact will be running divisions with 2% of their TOE and it’s just a matter of occupying land to capitulate them. spain op pls nerf
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Pacho posted:The berbers still have to chew through New France before reaching Panama, right? Is there a way the won't declare against our faction if Ibriz captures the Panama Channel fast enough? They could always just side step and do naval landings like we did with Italy.
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Apr 15, 2019 21:35
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We'd better give the French what's coming to them- as good Muslims, we cannot have the Holy Cities be held by loving fascists of all people 
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CommissarMega posted:We'd better give the French what's coming to them- as good Muslims, we cannot have the Holy Cities be held by loving fascists of all people aren't we incredibly anti-religion or did I miss something?
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Top Hats Monthly posted:aren't we incredibly anti-religion or did I miss something? If we're anything like the USSR and China, the anti-religion is probably not terribly successful and will crumble at a stiff breeze 
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Wildcard... We need to get Woano into our alliance.
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Woano still being alive is probably the most surprising thing to me, tbh, as they're sitting on some serious prime real estate there.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Woano still being alive is probably the most surprising thing to me, tbh, as they're sitting on some serious prime real estate there. Think they still have massive prestige points for being the first colonial nation and somehow beating the Euros to the Americas
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Pacho posted:The berbers still have to chew through New France before reaching Panama, right? Is there a way the won't declare against our faction if Ibriz captures the Panama Channel fast enough? The whole western mess started because of Panama, so the Berbers are definitely declaring war on whoever holds it. The Berbers would actually be less likely to declare on Ibriz if they fail miserably in capturing the canal, letting the Berbers swoop in and grab it instead.
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Hashim posted:The whole western mess started because of Panama, so the Berbers are definitely declaring war on whoever holds it. The Berbers would actually be less likely to declare on Ibriz if they fail miserably in capturing the canal, letting the Berbers swoop in and grab it instead. Luckily, they were once a part of our country, and therefore, doomed to incompetency.
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Red John posted:With air superiority and naval superiority, Iberia can literally never be threatened so long as Hash builds forts on the Pyrenees. Stick some dudes on the ports, hit speed 5, man the forts, and then go watch avengers end game. By the time you come back the Paris pact will be running divisions with 2% of their TOE and it’s just a matter of occupying land to capitulate them. We've got level 5 forts along the Pyrenees at the moment, and with air superiority the peninsula is definitely secure for now. It'll be a different story when 300 Frankish divisions come at us via naval invasions and mass assault tactics though, which is why it's important to go on the offensive now whilst they're busy in Russia.
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Crazycryodude posted:Oh wow how did I miss the Free German forces taking over Libya that owns Newly-raised Maghrebi and German divisions were pretty much entirely responsible for those gains, since I only had a couple divisions there to hold important chokepoints. They were stopped before reaching Egypt of course, but I'll send a few more divisions there to see if we can help them break through, with most of Egypt's army still in Anatolia/Caucasia.
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We're not lucky enough for this to happen, but if Khwarezh wants to rebuild the Persian Empire it'd be right neighborly if they made a move about now.
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Grammarchist posted:We're not lucky enough for this to happen, but if Khwarezh wants to rebuild the Persian Empire it'd be right neighborly if they made a move about now. Vali Emirate actually had a focus to invade Khwarezm and about half the time they annexed them, the CSE just happened to be a lot more decisive in this particular game, so they shut that down really quickly. Khwarezm will be getting involved in another way though.
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Polgas posted:It's funny how all the constitutional monarchies keep allying with the fascist or hate communist so much they made their own faction. Given what real world communism is like rather than how it is perceived by some goons, making their own faction is the only moral option. Hashim posted:Don't worry, I'm trying my best to exploit them where I can. A couple rays of light are that they destroyed their navy against Russia's, so there's basically nobody with naval superiority in the European theatre, and I've produced a ton of planes so we'll have aerial superiority in the fight to come. Hashim posted:I've added a decision where we can invite them into our faction, but they'll only really do it if the war's going well for us. So if things pick up in the next year or so, then it'll be a possibility. Morrow posted:Of the three options Eh, I think a lot of us are rooting for the Berber Union, so no need to go out of your way to break the game through exploiting the AI and giving Goons Benin as a plaster on self inflicted wounds, it'd make it harder for the Imariz Iniative to conquer the world. Maybe a mega-LP could have less restrictions if the AI also mostly controlled the thread's player nation in terms of executing on trade and warfare. As it is most LPs seems to have a lot of strategic handicaps, to balance intense exploitation against a program that falls into retarded traps over and over, which gets boring fast. That's what Al-Andalus LP does well, the players actually pay for their mistakes. Whatever happens to this world I'm sure I'm not the only one taking joy in the consequences of 'Al Andalus' terrible decisions.'  What's Benin's diplomatic relations like? Weren't they pretty close to joining the Paris Pact despite the '36 purge (probably to cozy up to Egypt for security and conquer the rest of Western Africa), are they still there or drifting towards Ad Hoc or Imariz? Edit: No surprise on the timing there, after ignoring several dozen posts complaining about the perfidious monarchies and democracies. Luscious Snake fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Apr 16, 2019 |
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Hey let's have the same ponderously dull politics slapfight again, wait gently caress this isn't D&D
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