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Whitenoise Poster
Mar 26, 2010

Space Cadet Omoly posted:


This thread is my only Homestuck connection, how has the epilogue been received elsewhere? So far it's been a moderate hit with this thread (And we hate Homestuck more than anyone!), are other places liking it too so far?

Overwhelmingly negative including my favorite post.

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john egbert and the cursed child

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cathead
Jan 21, 2004

I do think it's neat that most of our cool homestuck thread posters are back, it's like a fun reunion where we all have to actually loving wait for an update in 2019, against all odds.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
Personally I hope John goes back to the end of cascade, the last time in my personal opinion that the entire comic was good without a ", but..." attached to the word, and Hussie writes a better, much more concise act 6 having erased pretty much all the trash characters from existence

maybe roxy can stay

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Oh, another thing folks here should be aware of, all the snapchat post canon...things, aside from the credits, have been confirmed non-canon.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
good

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...

cathead posted:

I do think it's neat that most of our cool homestuck thread posters are back, it's like a fun reunion where we all have to actually loving wait for an update in 2019, against all odds.

we were never gone, we were always there in ur heart

MatchaZed
Feb 14, 2010

We Can Do It!


Plom Bar posted:

Oh, another thing folks here should be aware of, all the snapchat post canon...things, aside from the credits, have been confirmed non-canon.

I mean, good? The crockercorp stuff with Jane was freaking weird.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Clawtopsy posted:

we were never gone, we were always there in ur heart

sir/ma'am im afraid youve got lethal levels of my posting build-up in yr ventricles. you have ten weeks to live

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
victims of late-stage randroid poisoning can be identified by their use of the sotto voce meme and having long-winded opinions about lovely bug people

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
No updates until this weekend. Maybe later. Everybody go home.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008

Plom Bar posted:

Oh, another thing folks here should be aware of, all the snapchat post canon...things, aside from the credits, have been confirmed non-canon.

i cant believe they would poo poo on the Homestuck Expanded Universe like that

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Plom Bar posted:

No updates until this weekend. Maybe later. Everybody go home.

im afraid the word has come down from on high that its crunch time and we have all been directed to get extra strident about our own personal interpretations of "meat or candy"

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...

paranoid randroid posted:

im afraid the word has come down from on high that its crunch time and we have all been directed to get extra strident about our own personal interpretations of "meat or candy"

i expect your report by the morning or ill have your postin badge MOTHERFUCKER

A good poster
Jan 10, 2010
The News page still hasn't been updated in over a year.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Canon is a bullshit concept.

Spellman
May 31, 2011

Plom Bar posted:

Oh, another thing folks here should be aware of, all the snapchat post canon...things, aside from the credits, have been confirmed non-canon.

Canon now being an in-universe story mechanic to describe activities far removed from the main story, particularly those happening on Earth C

Because they're always happening, and they didn't stop from being a thing. It's just over time, the further removed they are from Acts 1-7, and the less they do to drive the plot to stop Lord English, the more delegitimized they become in the minds of higher forms like the reader

In order to regain some of the legitimacy of what's happened after THE END, the story needs to REAFFIRM itself with MAJOR PLOT POINTS, else there's no real point for which any objective observer could actively give one or more fucks about

Spellman
May 31, 2011

AH: Redefine the significance of canon while simultaneously making GBS threads on it; vaccuming it into the higher meta of Homestuck, like you always have

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Spellman posted:

Canon now being an in-universe story mechanic to describe activities far removed from the main story, particularly those happening on Earth C

Because they're always happening, and they didn't stop from being a thing. It's just over time, the further removed they are from Acts 1-7, and the less they do to drive the plot to stop Lord English, the more delegitimized they become in the minds of higher forms like the reader

In order to regain some of the legitimacy of what's happened after THE END, the story needs to REAFFIRM itself with MAJOR PLOT POINTS, else there's no real point for which any objective observer could actively give one or more fucks about

It's all of this, but also the additional meta layer that Paradox Space and/or Hussie are capricious storytellers, and their reward for winning was to exit canon, where they are free to have happy lives without plot twists or World Ending Consequences. Basically, they thought they paid off their hero bill, but the bank came back and said there was a $10 fee that's been gathering interest for years and they need to take care of it.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I'm thinking of re-reading Homestuck from the start.

WalrusWhiskers
Nov 1, 2010

He's got no teeth, see?
Fun Shoe

MonsieurChoc posted:

I'm thinking of re-reading Homestuck from the start.

There's probably better uses of your time, but you do you!

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

MonsieurChoc posted:

I'm thinking of re-reading Homestuck from the start.

A fun way to do that is via the books (which Viz has digital copies of, now), because Hussie is very snarky in his commentary and points out stuff that he'd planned early and either a) didn't go anywhere or b) had deep significance several years later.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Bobulus posted:

A fun way to do that is via the books (which Viz has digital copies of, now), because Hussie is very snarky in his commentary and points out stuff that he'd planned early and either a) didn't go anywhere or b) had deep significance several years later.

I've got the first two books somewhere. I'm too broke for the others so I'll go back to the *original experience* afterwards.

jalapeno_dude
Apr 10, 2015

MonsieurChoc posted:

I'm thinking of re-reading Homestuck from the start.

I would say to just read to Cascade and then imagine a better ending, except that both times I've tried a reread I've gotten bogged down in the loving endless doc scratch pages and haven't even made it that far. Good luck.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Instead I'm finally getting around to playing my kickstarter copy of Hiveswap. My first complaint is that the inventory management system is not terrible and obtuse.

Edit: Grandpa Harley is the worst Jegus.

Edit Edit: That was fun but very short. Now for the rest to never come out.

MonsieurChoc fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Apr 18, 2019

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Grandpa Harley is the very very worst.

I think Hussie released a diagram that showed that he'd loved and left more people than just Joey's mom and John's grandmom.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008

MonsieurChoc posted:

I'm thinking of re-reading Homestuck from the start.

re read it from the end instead, if you read homestuck backwards it becomes a comic where many extremely boring characters eventually disappear, while the remaining characters develop and end up happier, more likable and in a better situation

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


I think the Epilogue is going to send John back to the Game Over kids, who were pretty cool.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I'm re-reading online because while all the notes are cool, a static medium like a book doesn't re-create the nostalgic experience.

I'd forgotten how funny the beginning is. Vaulthalla had me laugh out loud for real.

Also I'd completely forgotten about Rose's walkthrough.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Grandpa Harley is the very very worst.

I think Hussie released a diagram that showed that he'd loved and left more people than just Joey's mom and John's grandmom.

drat. At least Joey got a cool babysitter who's only mildly a complete mess herself.

I'm thinking of reading the terrible timeline everyone hated after out of morbid curiosity, but I'll probably have forgotten by the time I reach the ending again.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


You know what's kind of weird? We know nothing about Bro's life before he adopted Dave.

We know all about Grandpa Harley loving his way around the globe and Nana's full life story and where mom Lalonde grew up, but (unless I missed something) no backstory information has ever been released on Bro.

It's the kind of thing I probably wouldn't care about if it existed, but the fact that it doesn't exist feels strange to me.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Honestly I suspect Beta Dirk simply did absolutely nothing except studying the blade and running bizarre internet pornography shops. He wasn't qualified to have friends.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Much is made of Bro's abusive parenting but I kind of suspect Grandpa was somehow a worse person.

Not that ranking terribleness of fictional people matters.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Grandpa seems to have actively betrayed his duty to more people, yeah.

Bro Strider was doing his best; it's just a really bad best that messed Dave up worse than Grandpa half-assing it.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Rand Brittain posted:

Honestly I suspect Beta Dirk simply did absolutely nothing except studying the blade and running bizarre internet pornography shops. He wasn't qualified to have friends.

I'd 100% buy that, it's just odd that it's never been officially confirmed when we have so many other unnecessary detail about the other guardians.

MonsieurChoc posted:

Much is made of Bro's abusive parenting but I kind of suspect Grandpa was somehow a worse person.

Not that ranking terribleness of fictional people matters.

Grandpa was never around for any of his kids, so he wasn't really a parent at all.

Dude was a total deadbeat, even before he got shot.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
i think the parents/guardians worked better when they weren't/aren't fleshed out tbh

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
like charlie browns parents but with incredibly lovely swords and a love of shoving puppets up their assholes

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

Yeah like Grandpa Harley's peak was the initial reveal and at that point he didn't have any flesh at all

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Meanwhile Mom Lalonde seemingly loved the poo poo out of her daughter, she was just also an alcoholic.

I have reached the Midnight Crew intermission, which remains amazing after all these years. Now these are the type of shenanigans I wanted out of an Homestuck videogame. Hiveswap didn't have any needlessly complicated time puzzle or crappy inventory management.

Edit: Also yikes at the Bill Cosby refs. These were more innocent times.

MonsieurChoc fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Apr 19, 2019

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
I am very glad Dad avoided being overwritten

Lupus Rufus
Aug 11, 2008

Prepare for trouble!

And make it a double!
Bro was raised by a puppet possessed by the most evil amalgamation of spirits to ever exist. I feel like going any further into that backstory would just be trauma porn.

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MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Alright, I finished Act 4 and now to sleep. Man, Act 1 to 5 remain super good. Great even.

I started reading somwhere during early Act 6, I don't remember exactly when except that I barely slept the evening Meenahquest dropped and was super tired at work the following day. I know it's a drop in quality untilt he disappointing enbding, but I still love this dumb story and these dumb characters and even the worst Homestuck gets is better than a lot of the other poo poo I read. I mean, as a teen I used to read and love the old Star Wars EU. I can still rant about it for hours. That's way worse than Hamsteak.

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