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mycomancy posted:gently caress off. 
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Apr 16, 2019 15:38
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Incredible retort, I am well and truly "owned."
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Apr 16, 2019 15:49
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What if there is in fact too many people but the people are actually Westerners whose lives are unsustainable and are murdering the planet and everything on it
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Apr 16, 2019 15:54
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No really, gently caress off fash.
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Apr 16, 2019 16:03
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Hodgepodge posted:No really, gently caress off fash. I don't know what libertarian think tank you guys are coming from, but consider that it is you who should gently caress off?
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Apr 16, 2019 16:11
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Please continue to tell us how there are no ethical limits to human consumption.
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Apr 16, 2019 16:12
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The human population is too low. Truly the hottest of takes.
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Apr 16, 2019 16:16
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Spazzle posted:I don't know what libertarian think tank you guys are coming from, but consider that it is you who should gently caress off? That's not what those posts say, or the position you are supporting. The position you are supporting is "the problem is that there are too many people, so it's good when poor people conveniently die, and also their fault because their excessive numbers were the cause of the problems that killed them in the first place and not western capitalism."
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Apr 16, 2019 16:20
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We CAN support every single person on this Earth. We can give them housing, food, water, shelter. We've been able to do this since we figured out industrial production. We WON'T support every single person on this Earth under capitalism. Under a system where Americans expect to eat nothing but meat meals all day erryday and thus require massive land and water resources. Under a system that devalues adoption as a legitimate form of having children. Under a system where working yourself to death is normal and so people need more and more useless bullshit to fill the hole where community, hobbies and play could be. The problem isn't you or your lovely kids, it's the systems under which you live and die. And the only way to fight those is organizing, which is hardly helped by constant fighting. We have not only this beautiful blue ball, but also an entire universe waiting for us to explore and grow within. And if the world keeps on keeping on, we'll lose both to some rich rear end in a top hat's desire to snort coke off of a giant golden dick.
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Apr 16, 2019 16:41
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T-man posted:The problem isn't you or your lovely kids why do you think their kids are lovely?
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Apr 16, 2019 16:42
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Subjunctive posted:why do you think their kids are lovely? Apple doesnt fall far from the tree
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Apr 16, 2019 16:43
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T-man posted:We WON'T support every single person on this Earth under capitalism. Under a system where Americans expect to eat nothing but meat meals all day erryday and thus require massive land and water resources. Under a system that devalues adoption as a legitimate form of having children. Under a system where working yourself to death is normal and so people need more and more useless bullshit to fill the hole where community, hobbies and play could be. excuse me, but dr. peterson has informed me that following his all-beef diet will defeat the dragon of chaos and usher in the state of gold
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Apr 16, 2019 16:44
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hmm. lot of people complaining about lovely parents around here. I guess I never thought through the implications fully! feel bad for my kid, though
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Apr 16, 2019 16:44
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Subjunctive posted:hmm. lot of people complaining about lovely parents around here. I guess I never thought through the implications fully! you can still put em up for adoption ya know
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Apr 16, 2019 16:56
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T-man posted:We CAN support every single person on this Earth. We can give them housing, food, water, shelter. We've been able to do this since we figured out industrial production. Carter couldn't even get people to turn their thermostats down and wear a sweater.
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Apr 16, 2019 16:59
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Apr 16, 2019 17:02
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Subjunctive posted:why do you think their kids are lovely? lovely parents make lovely kids, most working class parents have to be lovely due to their own lovely parents and the pressures of capitalist production, repeat for a few generations and bing bang boom goons. When having kids becomes an investment vehicle everything gets worse. Hodgepodge posted:excuse me, but dr. peterson has informed me that following his all-beef diet will defeat the dragon of chaos and usher in the state of gold From what I know of Peterson, trans women would be traitors to order and supporters of the chaos vegan dragon so I guess I have to throw soy at you now AvesPKS posted:Carter couldn't even get people to turn their thermostats down and wear a sweater. Again, it's not the individual actions of people who are the problem. The problem is the social relations in society. Carter failed because he didn't address the root problem. learn2read comrade
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Apr 16, 2019 17:09
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Ok look how about we do the whole population reduction thing but compromise and limit it to just exterminating white people
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Apr 16, 2019 17:25
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Crazycryodude posted:Ok look how about we do the whole population reduction thing but compromise and limit it to just exterminating white people harsh but fair
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Apr 16, 2019 17:26
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Flowers For Algeria posted:you can still put em up for adoption ya know no way, she actually helps around the house now. I deserve at least a few years of that
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Apr 16, 2019 17:34
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Crazycryodude posted:Ok look how about we do the whole population reduction thing but compromise and limit it to just exterminating white people Yeah I'm not sure why everyone jumped to the conclusion that it would be muslim third worlders we'd be sterilizing, obviously you start at the population with the largest impact per capita so white first worlders
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Apr 16, 2019 17:56
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I was going to say I was surprised Thanos was a goon, but on reflection, not really.
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Apr 16, 2019 17:56
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introducing RELAY from NEXT! the revolutionary next "UBER but for..." app UBER! but for Freight! (not to be confused with UberFreight)  They've raised over 100 million in VC funding despite uberfreight being basically DOA
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Apr 16, 2019 17:58
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Coolness Averted posted:introducing RELAY from NEXT! the revolutionary next "UBER but for..." app Wasn't this tried already by a company that claimed it would use the unused space in regularly scheduled freight carrier trips that would otherwise just be wasted, and then oops it turns out the industry is actually really really good at optimizing that poo poo because they've been doing this for centuries, who knew?
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Apr 16, 2019 18:04
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[Coolness Averted posted:introducing RELAY from NEXT! the revolutionary next "UBER but for..." app but will they lease me a brand new freight train so i can make my deliveries?? i cant have my freight travelling in a decade old train car, or a 70 year old train car, or
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Apr 16, 2019 18:07
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Byzantine posted:I was going to say I was surprised Thanos was a goon, but on reflection, not really. If all this started because of me I don't even know what the gently caress y'all are talking about. It's hard to talk with all these words put in my mouth but the "voluntary human extinction movement" is a voluntary (it's in the name) pledge not to have kids, and I wasn't even advocating for that. Quiverful Christians like the Duggers are the religious weirdos I was referring to. But apparently mentioning that along with the extremely uncontroversial statement that there are a) too many loving people and b) the other living things on Earth would be better off without them makes me a *checks notes* total fash who wants to exterminate poor brown people. More like there are goons who think it's funny to deliberately misinterpret someone's post to the most extreme and bad faith position they can get it to and then mock them when they defend themselves like the person who's quoting this right now to say "nice meltdown".
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Apr 16, 2019 18:09
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Death is a female, the printer prints out death certificates. Thanos confirmed a goon.
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Apr 16, 2019 18:13
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there's not too many people on the earth, there's just a small minority in power who are making GBS threads the place up
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Apr 16, 2019 18:13
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Imagined posted:If all this started because of me I don't even know what the gently caress y'all are talking about. It's hard to talk with all these words put in my mouth but the "voluntary human extinction movement" is a voluntary (it's in the name) pledge not to have kids, and I wasn't even advocating for that. i wont have kids too man, but its because im v shy and have no game, i dont try to gussy it up
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Apr 16, 2019 18:15
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Imagined posted:the extremely uncontroversial statement that there are a) too many loving people lol what
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Apr 16, 2019 18:16
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Imagined posted:If all this started because of me I don't even know what the gently caress y'all are talking about. It's hard to talk with all these words put in my mouth but the "voluntary human extinction movement" is a voluntary (it's in the name) pledge not to have kids, and I wasn't even advocating for that. Your "voluntary" childlessness is as helpful as liking a Facebook post. Doing NOTHING is useless. Instead of reproducing responsibly and raising children to propagate a progressive culture of stewardship and change, you choose to do nothing. This is why that "movement" is bullshit. quote:More like there are goons who think it's funny to deliberately misinterpret someone's post to the most extreme and bad faith position they can get it to and then mock them when they defend themselves like the person who's quoting this right now to say "nice meltdown". You're getting mocked because your two presuppositions, that there's too many people and that the universe would be better off without us, is both incorrect and also arrogant in it's own twisted way. No bad faith arguments are needed, your reasoning for nothing is flawed, and if it wasn't you're still not helping anything by doing nothing. So, anyway, would you like to try a Baconator today?
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Apr 16, 2019 18:16
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There are too many people to live the way we do, at least with our tech. However, there is no good way to reduce our numbers and most of us are idiots who can't change or will actively resist it. I think it's obvious we're just gonna end up killing each other, if nothing else via the indirect "we have the things needed to live and you aren't allowed inside" method. Honestly seems pointless to bother trying to avoid it. You know it's gonna happen.
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Apr 16, 2019 18:21
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Want to wear this around town and see how mad I can make people.
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Apr 16, 2019 18:25
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Apr 16, 2019 18:26
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Some growth has bad causes like:
Some growth has neutral causes like:
So you can curb growth with:
No moral turpitude required.
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Apr 16, 2019 18:26
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Accretionist posted:Some growth has bad causes like: "But then how can I slake my thirst for brown death guilt-free?"
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Apr 16, 2019 18:28
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Why do they think it's a mistake?
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Apr 16, 2019 18:30
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mycomancy posted:Your "voluntary" childlessness is as helpful as liking a Facebook post. Doing NOTHING is useless. Instead of reproducing responsibly and raising children to propagate a progressive culture of stewardship and change, you choose to do nothing. This is why that "movement" is bullshit. What if you adopt a bunch of kids and train them to be antifa supersoldiers
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Apr 16, 2019 18:33
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she just knows u gotta spin 2 win DEMACIAAA
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Apr 16, 2019 18:34
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hovering my fingers over a post that is only "lol", laughing at my own cleverness
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