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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Daddy Thanos posted:

They say that racism is never funny but Alita's face is really funny

i'm sorry that you hate hispanic people but please leave

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Daddy Thanos posted:

They say that racism is never funny but Alita's face is really funny
so which permabanned poster's parachute account are you

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Daddy Thanos posted:

They say that racism is never funny but Alita's face is really funny

What are you even going on about? :psyduck: If you're trying to start a whitewashing shitfest as some kind of weird troll (my best guess), you should probably be aware that Rosa Salazar is not a white person.

Daddy Thanos
Mar 28, 2019

by R. Guyovich

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

What are you even going on about? :psyduck: If you're trying to start a whitewashing shitfest as some kind of weird troll (my best guess), you should probably be aware that Rosa Salazar is not a white person.

Oh no I just meant it's racist that they're making fun of Japanese people for liking big expressive eyes

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Daddy Thanos posted:

Oh no I just meant it's racist that they're making fun of Japanese people for liking big expressive eyes

who is "they" in this instance? if you mean the filmmakers, as far as i'm aware they're not making fun of anybody; they just tried to keep Alita's appearance as faithful as possible to the manga, where she has noticeably bigger eyes than everyone else

Daddy Thanos
Mar 28, 2019

by R. Guyovich

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

who is "they" in this instance? if you mean the filmmakers, as far as i'm aware they're not making fun of anybody; they just tried to keep Alita's appearance as faithful as possible to the manga, where she has noticeably bigger eyes than everyone else

Oh well I've never read the manga or seen the movie I just saw the trailer for it

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Daddy Thanos posted:

Oh well I've never read the manga or seen the movie I just saw the trailer for it

It's legit as gently caress, you should check it out if you get a chance. If you like old-school Cameron stuff like Terminator/Aliens/etc you'll like this.

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
This might be the first time where the final product looks leagues better than the concept art. Most CG heavy films/properties have the polar opposite problem (Frozen for instance).

Daddy Thanos
Mar 28, 2019

by R. Guyovich

Al Cu Ad Solte posted:

This might be the first time where the final product looks leagues better than the concept art. Most CG heavy films/properties have the polar opposite problem (Frozen for instance).

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Aces High posted:

poo poo touch that up a little and that is basically Adam Jensen right now. That's a loving dope design, as cool as the final one was

Bit funny that in the movie he's basically got a Jetstream Sam and/or Raiden thing going on. Especially with being the owner of a really fancy exotic sword, and being a cyborg whose only remaining human part is his face.

I still love the variety they have with the Hunter-Warriors, including Ido. Especially that for how most of them are cocky super-soldier cyborgs, Ido's whole thing is to just wait around the corner in a dark alley and hit them in the soft bits with a rocket-powered warhammer.

Alita's fight with the Centurions in the Factory apparently borrows some visual elements from the Robocop remake when Robocop fights the ED-209s. (which the Centurions resemble quite a bit)

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
Alita could get a sequel, maybe.
:unsmith:
The forbes article linked at the bottom of the above article is a decent read too.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


So when the fan letter writing campaign starts, what do we call ourselves? I'm thinking Künsters. That'll go over great and I see no possible problem with it.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

If an Alita animated series gets put on Disney+ I'd be ok with that. It won't be super violent since I believe Disney+ is being marketed as a "family friendly" streaming service, but I'll take whatever really.


NmareBfly posted:

So when the fan letter writing campaign starts, what do we call ourselves? I'm thinking Künsters. That'll go over great and I see no possible problem with it.

In the manga, it's Künstlers. We should get a gangtag lol. Alita's Big Eyed Künstlers.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




teagone posted:

In the manga, it's Künstlers. We should get a gangtag lol. Alita's Big Eyed Künstlers.

I've been debating what to get for a new AV (because I'm done with this monstrosity) and I think I am gonna get a gif of her laughing at the Motorball arena. Girl's just having the time of her life watching people beat the poo poo out of each other

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


teagone posted:

If an Alita animated series gets put on Disney+ I'd be ok with that. It won't be super violent since I believe Disney+ is being marketed as a "family friendly" streaming service, but I'll take whatever really.

Eh. I dunno. I mean. I guess it woudln't be the worst thing in the world but a sanitized Alita wouldn't... really be Alita. A big budget anime would be dang keen though.

quote:

In the manga, it's Künstlers. We should get a gangtag lol. Alita's Big Eyed Künstlers.

guess it's time for another re-read.

One of the main points in both those articles is 'it'll make some money with merch!' which makes me vaguely excited to buy merch but... there's not really much merch. Like, if I knew a teenage girl I had a non-creepy reason to buy a present for I might get this or something but stuff is pretty thin on the ground.

basically what I'm saying is put Alita in Smash and also make a nendroid / figma or whatever.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

NmareBfly posted:

One of the main points in both those articles is 'it'll make some money with merch!' which makes me vaguely excited to buy merch but... there's not really much merch. Like, if I knew a teenage girl I had a non-creepy reason to buy a present for I might get this or something but stuff is pretty thin on the ground.

basically what I'm saying is put Alita in Smash and also make a nendroid / figma or whatever.

Weta Workshop made figures of Alita, Ido, and Zapan. I really don't like how they designed Alita for that line of figures though, but Zapan and Ido look great. https://www.wetanz.com/brands/alita-battle-angel

Nendoroids/Figmas are a bit out of my "toy buying" price range personally. QMX Q-Figs are cute and cheap, and look way better than Funko Pops. Wish they'd gotten a licensing deal for Alita merch instead of Funko :argh:

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Figma are insanely good action figures, I'd love anything from alita as a figma even if they're pricy

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Captain Invictus posted:

Figma are insanely good action figures, I'd love anything from alita as a figma even if they're pricy

is this where i'm supposed to say "what's a figma?"

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


DC Murderverse posted:

is this where i'm supposed to say "what's a figma?"

The figma series is a collection of PVC
action figures that incorporate both
"Beauty" and
"Articulation"
Action figures that are made as faithful
renditions of characters, yet still allow them
to be displayed in various different poses.

i have a windranger because i'm a turbo nerd but she came with a dota hat that I ended up selling for more than the figma cost so :shrug:

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



DC Murderverse posted:

is this where i'm supposed to say "what's a figma?"
Figma MOTORBALLLLLLLZZZZZZ

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen
Need an Alita chibi to represent her Interactive Interface.

No lazy Funko version either.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
This was an extremely pretty, spectacular, well made movie. It was in another thread, but someone said that Cameron is a big influencer on the 90s aesthetic. It's fitting that the action climax of this movie, a high speed rollerblade fight with cyborgs, is a 90s as gently caress thing.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

DC Murderverse posted:

is this where i'm supposed to say "what's a figma?"
as mentioned, they're basically the ultimate in affordable action figures. Yeah, they're 60-70 bucks in most cases, but they're also often far and away the best action figure of a character in an affordable fashion that is fully poseable and comes with lots of accessories plus a display stand. Once you get past figma, you start to get into the 300+ dollar ultra detailed individually jointed finger type figures which are ridiculous. Some figma are easily the best renditions of their character that's ever been produced, like the Metroid Prime 3 Samus Aran figma. I have only bought two figma ever, the first samus figure which is a bad design(I think it's the other m power suit?) and the MP3 Samus which is insanely good. Look at this, it's so good, it even comes with a morph ball accessory. Out of production now though, sadly, so it's like a hundred bucks on ebay now.




There's like 400+ figmas now, it's kinda nuts. there's even figmas of overwatch characters, virtual youtubers like kizuna ai, and also a special limited edition figma of billy herrington(RIP), famous porn star/meme.

Android Apocalypse posted:

Need an Alita chibi to represent her Interactive Interface.

Nendoroid chibi alita, figma Tuned Alita

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Nessus posted:

Figma MOTORBALLLLLLLZZZZZZ

this person wins the no-prize

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



teagone posted:

If an Alita animated series gets put on Disney+ I'd be ok with that. It won't be super violent since I believe Disney+ is being marketed as a "family friendly" streaming service, but I'll take whatever really.


In the manga, it's Künstlers. We should get a gangtag lol. Alita's Big Eyed Künstlers.

doesn't künstler just mean artist? lmao

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

doesn't künstler just mean artist? lmao

It does, yeah. Künst meaning art. Literal translation of Panzer Künst being Armored Art or Armor Art.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
The accent isn't necessary, it's just kunst. I think künst means artificial?

edit: vv that's... what I said? The accent changes the meaning of the word.

davidspackage fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Apr 12, 2019

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



davidspackage posted:

The accent isn't necessary, it's just kunst. I think künst means artificial?

Kunst means art.

AllisonByProxy
Feb 24, 2006

FUCK TERFS/BLM/ACAB
Went to the theater to see Shazam and they had a big rack of Alita t-shirts on clearance for $3.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

AllisonByProxy posted:

Went to the theater to see Shazam and they had a big rack of Alita t-shirts on clearance for $3.



can you grab us one? I'm a US large, and an XL everywhere else.

PaganGoatPants
Jan 18, 2012

TODAY WAS THE SPECIAL SALE DAY!
Grimey Drawer

AllisonByProxy posted:

Went to the theater to see Shazam and they had a big rack of Alita t-shirts on clearance for $3.



Did you grab like 10? So I can buy one off you???

AllisonByProxy
Feb 24, 2006

FUCK TERFS/BLM/ACAB
Sorry guys, just picked up the one. If they still have them when I go there next I can pick some up.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



It doesn't look like her...

AllisonByProxy
Feb 24, 2006

FUCK TERFS/BLM/ACAB

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

It doesn't look like her...

That's true. Doesn't look like the film or manga version but for $3 I'll take it.

El Grillo
Jan 3, 2008
Fun Shoe
You can get them online I think

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause

AllisonByProxy posted:

Went to the theater to see Shazam and they had a big rack of Alita t-shirts on clearance for $3.



Went to the theater to see Alita so many times the manager gave me one of these for free.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

davidspackage posted:

The accent isn't necessary, it's just kunst. I think künst means artificial?

edit: vv that's... what I said? The accent changes the meaning of the word.

To prevent more questions, it's:

Kunst - singular ("art")
Künstler - artist
Künste - plural ("arts")

"künstlich"/"artificial" is a different word altogether, just connected linguistically, since an artist makes something and something artificial is something which is made. The equivalent German words work similar.

Libluini fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Apr 14, 2019

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



quote:


ComingSoon.net: Even though the film is kind of a standalone adventure, you lay a lot of pipework for a sequel, including Edward Norton as Nova as well as Michelle Rodriguez and Jai Courtney’s roles, not to mention all the secrets of Alita’s past. I know you all wanted this to work as a standalone, so what was the discussion between you and James Cameron and John Landau about how much of that sequel pipe to lay?

Robert Rodriguez: There was almost no way to tell this story without including those people. You had to get a sense if she had been trained before by scenes with the Michelle character, you had to see Gelda at some point. They’re talking about how the game is played, Jashugin is one of the major players. He has a much bigger role later in the books. We didn’t want to just put somebody in. What if there was a sequel? We had to cast three people without really having a part for them to be basing it on to see if they wanted to do it. There was no script for a future one. So we went to people we knew. We knew Jai. He’s great. He had already been in the family, you know, working on that “Terminator” movie with Jim. Both of us had worked with Michelle before, and both of us knew Ed. I had known Ed for a long time and Jim knew Ed and had some businesses with him. He’s really smart like Jim, so we thought, that’s who we need is a mastermind type of guy to play Nova. It’s the promise of a part if there is a sequel, there might not be. If there is a sequel, you don’t want to be roped into something that you’re not going to like, but they knew us enough to trust that we’d make sure it was something cool. That was the challenge of that. That’s probably the last casting we did was those roles, because they were small enough we didn’t need to shoot them right away and it gave us time to figure out who to go to that we really liked that would fit the role and we could fill that promise later down the road with the sequel.

CS: You famously parsed this film down from a much, much longer script. What were some of the biggest things either from that big draft or from the comics that you wanted to include, but were like, “That’s going to have to wait”?

Rodriguez: The middle and the end were always the same. It always ended that way. That was Jim’s ending, where she’s kind of targeted where she’s going and she’s pointing the sword up. I just thought that was a powerful ending. It’s a great drumroll into a sequel, if you had a sequel, but if there’s no sequel, she knows now who she is. It’s a complete arc of a journey for her, going from something -innocence and not knowing who she is- to suddenly knowing who she is and making a choice of who she’ll be and what she will do. So that was always the same. I actually cut down extra action, extra characters. I combined a few characters, just to not touch the father/daughter story that I loved, and the boy/girl relationship. I think that’s what surprised Jim. I bet he thought I was going to sacrifice one of those storylines because how else was I going to sweep 66 pages out of this thing? And he said he played a little game with himself, that he would read a few pages and think, “Oh, but he’s going to kill my favorite scene.” He turned the page, “Oh no, there it is.” And he said, “I read it all the way from beginning to end without you cutting any of my favorite scenes. What did you do? I don’t even know what you cut.” I said, “Well, I cut what people might think not to cut, which is the spectacle,” but I know his movie enough and him enough to know that he doesn’t care about that. How long is it before you even see an iceberg in “Titanic”? It’s all about the characters to him. So I tried to preserve that.

There was a different character from the script and the Manga that actually had the sword, a Damascus blade that Zapan has, and that actually is the one who took down Hugo. That was not Zapan, it was Master Clive Lee. So I thought, nah, Clive Lee is such a great character. Let’s save him. And let me combine Clive Lee with Zapan. So that it was the third act that ended up getting really weighty with extra characters and plot twists and very much that’s how manga works. But I try to streamline it. Jim said when he read it, he goes, “You know what you did?” Because he had never cracked a script, he always had it long and he never cut it down. He could’ve, but he’d just done the shrink wrapped version. He just never did. He went on to “Avatar,” so he never got to revisit it. He said, “You applied story discipline. You came in and lined up where things needed to go and trimmed out the fat and the stuff that was redundant, or combined characters and took out action that we didn’t need, and you kept the characters and applied story, just putting them into those beats so that we move like a film.” That was the other thing, this thing couldn’t be a two and a half, three hour movie, because it was a new franchise. Every second she’s in frame is a lot of money. I had to deal with a studio to get it made. It had to be a two hour movie, so I had to get it down. You can’t just be chipping away at that stuff. You have to remove some pillars in order to make that work. I think it kept the spirit of the characters and the movie without removing anything really crucial.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



blu ray is out sometime in the next 2 months

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BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsEc2VV5eR8

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