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How do you know when its time to quit? I've been at my bjj gym about a year, mostly no gi, started gi two months ago. I'm the only female in the gi classes, and despite being 5'9 and 165lb, the other white belts run away from me like I've got the plague. I'll directly ask to roll and half the time they say "Sorry, no." The gym has womens classes, but the girls tend to top out around 120lb and are easy enough to muscle that I feel like my technique isn't getting better. Plus they're no gi only, and I'm finding I like gi much better. Obviously the dudes are kind of being dicks. But maybe I need to suck it up because its a male dominated sport? Feel free to tell me if I'm being a big whiny baby.
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ElHuevoGrande posted:How do you know when its time to quit? I've been at my bjj gym about a year, mostly no gi, started gi two months ago. I'm the only female in the gi classes, and despite being 5'9 and 165lb, the other white belts run away from me like I've got the plague. I'll directly ask to roll and half the time they say "Sorry, no." The gym has womens classes, but the girls tend to top out around 120lb and are easy enough to muscle that I feel like my technique isn't getting better. Plus they're no gi only, and I'm finding I like gi much better. find a gym with fewer weird cowards e: is this exclusively with other white belts?
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Apr 5, 2019 04:16
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You might want to ask in the bjj thread for more opinions, but at my gym (relatively small) I can't imagine anyone treating a women like that. We all roll with each other big, small, male, female, teenagers / adults, whatever. My wife rolls with dudes all the time. I mean, people can politely not roll or whatever but unless you are doing something crazy that makes guys not want to roll with you is sounds like your gym is lovely.
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Apr 5, 2019 04:21
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Wangsbig posted:find a gym with fewer weird cowards Yeah. When purple and blue belts show up, they're chill and friendly and I usually learn a lot from them. The white belts are very Mean Girls. poo poo if this isn't the norm in other places, maybe it really is time to start checking out other gyms.
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Apr 5, 2019 04:31
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ElHuevoGrande posted:Yeah. When purple and blue belts show up, they're chill and friendly and I usually learn a lot from them. The white belts are very Mean Girls. poo poo if this isn't the norm in other places, maybe it really is time to start checking out other gyms. How long have you stuck with this? Did you talk to the instructors about it?
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Apr 5, 2019 04:34
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ElHuevoGrande posted:How do you know when its time to quit? I've been at my bjj gym about a year, mostly no gi, started gi two months ago. I'm the only female in the gi classes, and despite being 5'9 and 165lb, the other white belts run away from me like I've got the plague. I'll directly ask to roll and half the time they say "Sorry, no." The gym has womens classes, but the girls tend to top out around 120lb and are easy enough to muscle that I feel like my technique isn't getting better. Plus they're no gi only, and I'm finding I like gi much better. I've never been to a grappling gym where people were weird about rolling with women, so at least in my experience that sounds really unusual. Seconding that this is something you should discuss with your instructor, because it sounds like an issue with the gym culture.
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Apr 5, 2019 05:12
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kimbo305 posted:How long have you stuck with this? Did you talk to the instructors about it? It's been a few months. Didn't talk to the instructors because I've been stuck in a "perhaps its me" phase. But when I asked a guy tonight what the process is to get stripes and he looks at me and says don't hold your breath, that was the last straw. It's also a little eye opening to hear that it's not like this at other gyms. I love BJJ so much if I could just get a regular training partner it would be perfect. I'm going to do a trial period somewhere else this weekend and see what its like to train without a bunch of jerks.
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Apr 5, 2019 06:17
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That's super weird and you should absolutely bring it up with the instructor. Even if it turns out you are somehow the problem, at least you'll know how you're loving up.
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Apr 5, 2019 07:46
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Lol at other white belts talking to you that way. Sounds like a lovely gym culture
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Apr 5, 2019 08:02
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ElHuevoGrande posted:How do you know when its time to quit? I've been at my bjj gym about a year, mostly no gi, started gi two months ago. I'm the only female in the gi classes, and despite being 5'9 and 165lb, the other white belts run away from me like I've got the plague. I'll directly ask to roll and half the time they say "Sorry, no." The gym has womens classes, but the girls tend to top out around 120lb and are easy enough to muscle that I feel like my technique isn't getting better. Plus they're no gi only, and I'm finding I like gi much better. Our gym has a lot of girls, compared to when I was in the US. We've had no issues with people asking them to roll with them, nor them asking guys to roll with them. It's a bit awkward for me since I'm a foreigner and its 100% Koreans in our gym but they just more so are in a bit of shock/confusion when I point to one and ask them to roll in Korean (I guess they think I don't know any of the language). It sounds like your gym has a really lovely culture and you're probably better off finding a new place or trying to make sure you only spar when the purple/blue belts are around as they seem to be more rational minded about it other than the idiotic white belts you wrote about. ElHuevoGrande posted:But when I asked a guy tonight what the process is to get stripes and he looks at me and says don't hold your breath This is hilarious to me because it's basically him being pissy for no reason. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Apr 5, 2019 |
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Apr 5, 2019 09:15
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Do you have any idea why no one wants to roll with you? Are you hurting people? Do you smell? Are you a spaz? Those are probably the most common ones.
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Apr 5, 2019 09:28
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VulgarandStupid posted:Do you have any idea why no one wants to roll with you? Are you hurting people? Do you smell? Are you a spaz? Those are probably the most common ones. There are world-renowned boy black belts who refuse to train with women.
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Apr 5, 2019 14:52
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I was to a seminar and a girl I've never met candidly told me she liked the seminar crowd because the guys looked a lot more chill at the event. When I asked her in comparison to whom, she told me that her gym has a lot of woman haters and would purposefully try and injure them and was kinda stuck there as her husband is part owner of the club. I felt osrry for her but didn't really know how she could keep training under those circumstances.
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Apr 5, 2019 16:32
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When I traveled all the time one heuristic I used was trying to see how many women trained at that gym. Usually if there was a consistent female presence the gym had a good culture. I feel validated.
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Apr 5, 2019 18:34
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ElHuevoGrande posted:How do you know when its time to quit? I've been at my bjj gym about a year, mostly no gi, started gi two months ago. I'm the only female in the gi classes, and despite being 5'9 and 165lb, the other white belts run away from me like I've got the plague. I'll directly ask to roll and half the time they say "Sorry, no." The gym has womens classes, but the girls tend to top out around 120lb and are easy enough to muscle that I feel like my technique isn't getting better. Plus they're no gi only, and I'm finding I like gi much better.
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Apr 5, 2019 20:11
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Pedro Sauers academy in Herndon, VA also has lots of women, including one of the black belt instructors. It’s very close to DC.
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Apr 5, 2019 20:16
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Xguard86 posted:When I traveled all the time one heuristic I used was trying to see how many women trained at that gym. Yeah we do everything we can to make women comfortable at our club for this reason. Right now we only have maybe 4 regular-ish women in BJJ but most of our muay thai turnouts are 50-50, and our kids class has a lot of girls in it. The kids' wrestling class might be over half girls... So yeah grapplegoon, that sounds really weird and dumb. If the blue/purple belts aren't so lovely about it maybe it's just that there are some goobers at the bottom of the ladder. My advice is you choke the goobers the gently caress out!
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Apr 5, 2019 22:57
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I think there is minimal, if any, misogynist feelings at our club. I would say our blackbelts are about 40% female and many are ferocious. The female body type lends itself really well to TKD and their kicks in particular can be amazing. First time I sparred a 2nd dan female when I was a green stripe and ended up with a black eye and a bloody nose for my trouble.
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Apr 6, 2019 17:33
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slidebite posted:First time I sparred a 2nd dan female when I was a green stripe and ended up with a black eye and a bloody nose for my trouble. Can you parse this for me? Is it common in, what I assume is TKD, for a black belt to do that to a lower belt?
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Apr 6, 2019 22:56
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Yeah... What?
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Apr 6, 2019 23:29
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LOL, no, they don't try to beat up junior belts on purpose. More a newbie mistake on my side of coming in closer when I shouldn't have and thinking I could take advantage of a bit of timing. I was wrong and got the foot in my face for trying. She felt terrible. But the advanced women in our club are all excellent and super friendly. Their kicks are just so high and effortless, every male over 30 just  when we watch them because our bodies just can't do what they are able to do.
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Apr 7, 2019 15:52
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Well, had work meetings out of town all this week so I'm just exhausted. But our club is hosting our big bi-annual invitational tournament this weekend so working with about 30 of us were busting our asses setting it up last night from about 7 to 10pm. Expecting something like 400 competitors from 8 or 9 clubs and another several hundred spectators. I'm going to be working a table doing time or penalty logs, so it will be fun with manpower management as I'm competing as well. Here's to hoping it goes smoothly. T-minus 1 hour 25 minutes right now. drat, I'm going to be worn out come Sunday night and need another weekend. 
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Apr 13, 2019 14:11
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Came in 3rd in my division in point sparring. Didn't expect to do well seeing who was in my division, so I'm OK with that. Didn't compete in continuous. I was an inch from moving up - sparring the guy that won 1st. He trains with me and I always lose to him. He's a red belt, 2 more years experience than me, younger than me, 3-4" taller than me, very fast with great reach with both kicks and punches. However, I landed the first 3 points and had a decent lead the entire match. About 10 secs left, he got a couple of questionable points (it happens, I thought I solidly blocked them), but I was still ahead by 1 as the clock was at 2-3 seconds. If I was thinking I would have just backed away for the couple secs and kept out of his reach but I ain't so smart and got closer and he got a kick off, 2 points as the timer hit. It was a great match though. Team blackbelt point sparring in particular was some of the most exciting sparring I've ever seen anywhere. The should televise that stuff. 3 participants per team, super fast and free flowing tag in/out when there was a break in play for point votes. Our team in particular was anchored by a 6 Dan master (late 40s) who runs one of our satellite dojangs followed up by 2 early 20s 3rd Dans that were both phenomenal (came in 1st/2nd in individuals). I am kicking myself for not videoing it but the master in particular was awesome to watch. Dude was technical as gently caress but oh, so god drat fast. Also, those mats that made up the rings were awesome. I wish we used those everyday. Highlight was meeting Grand Master CK Choi. Super nice, mellow, genuinely friendly guy. I was walking back to the ring I was running and had to go by the head table, bowed towards him, he bowed back and put his hands out to shake mine but he didn't notice I had a muffin and coffee in my hands so he let out a big laugh.
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Apr 15, 2019 16:21
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I feel like such a pussy. I played Sonic Blast Heroes and only got one bar below average. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7m-LVCGqwM *Not me in video. What can I do to strengthen my punches? I've been lifting weights and this is all I can manage?
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Apr 19, 2019 11:26
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In my experience, one of the biggest things when trying to do a powerful punch is the habit pulling it a bit, even unintentionally. Make sure you are going THROUGH the target if that makes sense. If you're just trying to hit the target front and center, and not the back of the target, that's probably a big part of it there. That and speed. You can be very strong but velocity of your fist/arm makes a big different in kinetic energy. Also, officially a blue belt now  More than halfway to black, but it keeps getting tougher and tougher. Instructors definitely getting more fussy on technique. We were drilling weds night and we were doing reverse hook kicks, and I could finally pull them off with some speed and technique and not lose balance. That's been a tough kick for me so I feel pretty good about that.
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Apr 19, 2019 14:45
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punk rebel ecks posted:What can I do to strengthen my punches? I've been lifting weights and this is all I can manage? Have you been practicing punching? Technique matters a lot. For something light (that will move easily when you hit it) like that arcade game, speed is what matters. Muscle strength is not as closely correlated to strike speed as you think. Besides, don't care what the game says, care what your instructors and training partners say.
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Apr 19, 2019 15:37
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What do you bench press?
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Apr 19, 2019 16:34
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A better question would be how much he cleans. (As in clean & jerk)
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Apr 19, 2019 19:27
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I thought you usually jerk then clean
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Apr 19, 2019 20:06
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willie_dee posted:What do you bench press? 5 reps of 160lbs. kimbo305 posted:Have you been practicing punching? Technique matters a lot. For something light (that will move easily when you hit it) like that arcade game, speed is what matters. So that game doesn't measure punching power but rather speed? slidebite posted:In my experience, one of the biggest things when trying to do a powerful punch is the habit pulling it a bit, even unintentionally. Make sure you are going THROUGH the target if that makes sense. If you're just trying to hit the target front and center, and not the back of the target, that's probably a big part of it there. That and speed. You can be very strong but velocity of your fist/arm makes a big different in kinetic energy. Thanks. punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Apr 19, 2019 |
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Apr 19, 2019 20:26
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punk rebel ecks posted:So that game doesn't measure punching power but rather speed? Speed is power. Force is mass * acceleration. The faster your fist is flying when it hits the bag, the larger the acceleration and the more force is measured. It's why once you start getting good at the heavy bag your punches start to pop rather than thud
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Apr 19, 2019 20:45
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I found this thread. So maybe I'm just being an overworried moron? I heard a quote from Mike Tyson that great punches are born and not made, and that someone who weighs 160 can annihilate you but someone who weighs 260 can't hurt you. It made me nervous that I might have bad punching genes.
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Apr 20, 2019 01:42
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I too measure my martial prowess by an arbitrary arcade machine. How I fair against other humans is irrelevant.
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Apr 20, 2019 01:50
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1st: A lot of knockout shots aren't the hardest someone can throw. Timing, precision, strategy are big deals. One obvious example is watch Silva v Griffin. He knocks the guy out with a backpedaling jab, it's practically a stiff arm but timing and accuracy make it a knockout punch. 2nd: some people are naturally better strikers and a very few just "get it" and have weird innate power. But for 99.99% of the people you'll ever see or meet practice is the biggest differentiator. 3rd: hitting a fixed object is different from hitting a person. I'm almost an untrained striker and I can lay into a heavy bag for a minute. No one who knows what's up cares because it's so different trying to hit a person, especially across multiple rounds. So to summarize: those arcade punch things are fun but are not a benchmark for anything. Special 4th point: just pull guard
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Apr 20, 2019 17:42
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punk rebel ecks posted:I found this thread. Someone who's 260 and not 25% fat with some years of training will probably hit harder than a really fit "natural puncher" who weighs 160. I encourage you to stop thinking about this in the abstract and start training.
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Apr 20, 2019 18:57
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punk rebel ecks posted:I found this thread. Train more, read less.
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Apr 21, 2019 00:30
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Sorry guys. I have confidence issues.  I'll pretend that I never played the game and continue training. Xguard86 posted:1st: A lot of knockout shots aren't the hardest someone can throw. Timing, precision, strategy are big deals. One obvious example is watch Silva v Griffin. He knocks the guy out with a backpedaling jab, it's practically a stiff arm but timing and accuracy make it a knockout punch. Thanks. kimbo305 posted:Someone who's 260 and not 25% fat with some years of training will probably hit harder than a really fit "natural puncher" who weighs 160. I am training though. punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Apr 21, 2019 |
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Apr 21, 2019 00:42
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punk rebel ecks posted:Sorry guys. I have confidence issues. Ask any question you have about the training. Have you asked your coaches how your power is coming?
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kimbo305 posted:Ask any question you have about the training. Have you asked your coaches how your power is coming? My coaches stated that I was getting better. He noted that the biggest improvement was with my confidence.
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Do you have free mat time to work on the heavy bag? Do a couple of 1-min rounds where you just do hard 1-2s with some time between combos to reset your stance. If you're tipping over or step to recover your balance, take more time between combos.
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