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I’d say Elephant Man and Straight Story are his most accessible by a wide margin. Straight Story in particular is insanely underrated- it’s like Lynch channelling John Ford. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Apr 20, 2019 |
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Raxivace posted:I’d say Elephant Man and Straight Story are his most accessible by a wide margin.
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Apr 20, 2019 04:09
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Raxivace posted:I’d say Elephant Man and Straight Story are his most accessible by a wide margin. They're the most accessible, but possibly the least "Lynch". They have fairly straightforward plots that most people could enjoy, and they are both very fantastic films. But watching either of them will not help someone understand Inland Empire, Eraserhead, Lost Highway, etc. I would say Mulholland Drive is the best introduction. It's got a plot that is obscure, but relatively easy to get into, and once you feel comfortable with it you've got a better position to understand his other films.
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Apr 20, 2019 04:13
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Mulholland Drive is the perfect followup to a Twin Peaks fan looking for more Lynch. It was a unaired network TV show that was turned into a hard R film, with most of the new material added to latter half of the film, so you have the emotional and tonal arc of Twin Peaks in a microcosm.
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Apr 20, 2019 04:30
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Section 9 posted:They're the most accessible, but possibly the least "Lynch". I guess its kind of a moot point though because I think people should just watch all of his stuff anyways, Dune included.
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Apr 20, 2019 04:34
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Mantis42 posted:Mulholland Drive is the perfect followup to a Twin Peaks fan looking for more Lynch. It was a unaired network TV show that was turned into a hard R film, with most of the new material added to latter half of the film, and so you have the emotional and tonal arc of Twin Peaks in a microcosm. I agree with this. Also for Twin Peaks fans "On the Air" is good. You're pretty much stuck with old VHS transfers on Youtube, but it's Lynch and Frost and much of the cast of Twin Peaks. But it's comedy in the style that Lynch thinks is funny.
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Apr 20, 2019 04:35
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Raxivace posted:Even then I'd say they still have more in common with the rest of his work than like Dune does. Yeah. Dune is a weird outlier. If I remember correctly there was a time where Lynch was maybe going to be on board for Empire Strikes Back. Dune was Lynch being brought in to film someone else's story, and it was questionable. He put his mark on it, but it wasn't his creation. I feel the same with Wild at Heart, it was someone else's story that he filmed, but I think he did a better job with that. (Edit) He at least made the navigators in Dune crazy weird. The books described them as very spindly humans, he made them worm monsters. I like his version. Section 9 fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Apr 20, 2019 |
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Apr 20, 2019 04:40
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Section 9 posted:I agree with this. Also for Twin Peaks fans "On the Air" is good. You're pretty much stuck with old VHS transfers on Youtube, but it's Lynch and Frost and much of the cast of Twin Peaks. But it's comedy in the style that Lynch thinks is funny. Oh man, I'd forgotten all about On the Air. That is genuinely the most bizarre thing Lynch has made.
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Apr 20, 2019 04:48
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:Oh man, I'd forgotten all about On the Air. That is genuinely the most bizarre thing Lynch has made. Right!? I only saw it for the first time like 6 years ago. It really helped me to see what bits in Twin Peaks were Lynch making jokes. It is a very surreal comedy series, and while I totally understand why it failed as a TV series, I love it. (Edit) a playlist for anyone who hasn't seen it. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLFXf6fKQkjheiSpn_pjKVVVPEFO144JL Section 9 fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Apr 20, 2019 |
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Apr 20, 2019 04:52
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I completely forgot that On the Air exists. Seems like as good a time as any to watch it. This whole conversation reminds me though that one of the things that I found most interesting about The Return was how it has a real accumulative quality in regards to the types of films Lynch made over his career. Like yeah you have Lynch the puzzlebox neonoir "what even is my identity also where the gently caress am I" storyteller in there and Lynch the surrealist, but also the Lynch interested in small town America and Lynch the comedian, and Lynch the social critic and even Lynch the concert filmmaker takes up a significant part of the runtime. It's like a final exam or something.
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Apr 20, 2019 05:03
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If I had the power to visit parallel universes, one of the first things I’d do is see the Lynch directed Return of the Jedi.
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Apr 20, 2019 09:38
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I know the timeline really doesn't work (by like a decade!), but nothing makes me laugh more than the idea of freaked out investors looking at Jodorowsky's plans for Dune and saying,"We need a more straightforward, traditionalist film director to helm this project... like David Lynch!"
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Apr 20, 2019 11:07
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Section 9 posted:Right!? I only saw it for the first time like 6 years ago. It really helped me to see what bits in Twin Peaks were Lynch making jokes. It is a very surreal comedy series, and while I totally understand why it failed as a TV series, I love it. Wow the Director's accent sounds like the one I do (with some other effects) to sound like I'm from the Black Lodge.
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Apr 20, 2019 16:27
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On the Air isn’t that good but it has one of my favourite jokes ever about the guy who can see like 3000x better than others and they show it from his POV and it’s just a bunch of extra random poo poo floating around the screen
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Apr 20, 2019 18:19
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How much of Lynch’s filmography is on the criterion channel app now?
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Apr 20, 2019 18:23
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Kilometers Davis posted:How much of Lynch’s filmography is on the criterion channel app now? Not a whole lot. Mulholland Drive, The Elephant Man, Eraserhead, FWWM. The Eraserhead version on the channel also comes with several of his short films that he made before it. No Blue Velvet, Straight Story, Wild At Heart, Dune or Lost Highway. The editions of Eraserhead, Mullholland Drive and FWWM that are on there are good though. FWWM has The Missing Pieces. Edit: The Elephant Man is the only film of his on there that has no extras. Thom and the Heads fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Apr 20, 2019 |
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Apr 20, 2019 19:46
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Finally finished reading A Secret History. I enjoyed it, even if it didn't really add any major revelations. Would have been more interesting before Season 3 I'm sure. Is it worth proceeding to The Final Dossier?
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Apr 20, 2019 23:13
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The Final Dossier can be read in one or two sittings and provides some minor insights into S3 so it's hardly a waste of time or anything but you wouldn't really be missing out on much by skipping it either. Personally I liked The Secret History more
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Secret History is a good book, Final Dossier is more or less just “we’ll give you a little more closure on some stuff”.
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Apr 21, 2019 12:31
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New theory: Andy and Lucy are just high functioning vessels (like Dougie). But who is the dreamer?
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Apr 25, 2019 06:43
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Jerry Horne is high enough to dream up most of this, so he gets my vote.
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Apr 26, 2019 13:21
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Does the final dossier talk about what happens to Jerry? Iirc the last scene is him freaking out in the woods.
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Apr 26, 2019 14:24
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His last scene is freaking out at Mr. C and Richard at the big rock, but Ben later gets a call from the police that they picked him up. In Wyoming. Stark naked.
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Every so often I think of Jerry calling up Ben and wailing,"I THINK I'M HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHH!!!!!" and just smile  Edit: God bless you, Internet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvfSBxjOLeU Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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Apr 26, 2019 16:55
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I haven't watched since the episodes came out and every time I see a clip like this one or remember some other small moment or line I still can't believe that s3 actually happened and that it was so good
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https://slate.com/culture/2019/04/david-lynch-masterclass-review-does-it-work.html
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That's a sweet read. The description of Lynch as "Mr Rogers of the avant-garde" is way too accurate.
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eSporks posted:https://25yearslatersite.com/2019/03/29/surrealist-objects-in-twin-peaks/ That article referenced this one, which is a great writeup on indian haunting imagery (and stereotypical manifestations of it) in Peaks S1 and 2: http://sensesofcinema.com/2016/twin-peaks/twin-peaks-indigeneity-territoriality/
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fullroundaction posted:Jerry Horne is high enough to dream up most of this, so he gets my vote. Here's a q, did Cooper dream the resolution of BOB being beat to death by the glove kid since his face was superimposed on the scene, like it was all from his mind?
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Anyone follow the Met Gala tonight? https://twitter.com/BAKKOOONN/status/1125576851647164416
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May 7, 2019 04:12
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Anyone follow the Met Gala tonight? 
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Finally watched S3 of Twin Peaks the other week in a blitz over the course of four or five days and was so enthralled by it that I'd rank it as possibly the best work of Lynch's career. Jesus, what a staggering achievement. Making my way back through the original run and FWWM now. Anyway, since the question comes up every so often, some recommendations for other art that feels "Lynch"-ian that I haven't yet seen mentioned: -The Night of the Hunter, first and only film directed by actor Charles Laughton in 1955. It was a commercial flop but has long been considered one of the great film debuts and one-offs in film history. Stars Robert Mitchum (the unquestionable namesake of the Mitchum brothers in Twin Peaks S3) as Reverend Harry Powell, a murderous preacher who is after the score of a bank robbery that he hears about from his condemned-to-death cellmate, who left it in the hands of his two small children. In addition to capturing the off-kilter, artificial, nightmare quality of Lynch, it also has something of his bizarro sense of humor, as Powell, besides being a brutal murderer, is just as often a goofy, high-strung incompetent. You could also do worse than to watch basically any film noir with Mitchum, especially Out of the Past, which is often considered the high-water mark of the movement. -2666 by Roberto Bolano. 900 pages, unfinished at the time of the author's death (though close enough to completion to be revised according to his own notes and ultimately released in very satisfying fashion), spanning several decades and largely centered on the series of unsolved murders of women in a fictional town called Santa Teresa (inspired by a series of actual murders in Cuidad Juarez). Like the original Twin Peaks, the concern is less with who's responsible for the killings than for inspiring an atmosphere of suffering and dread. Bolano also has something of that quality of inexplicable "wrongness" that often defines Lynch, where he manages to raise the hairs on the back of your neck with details or incidences that seem, on their face, utterly mundane. It's not the easiest read, mainly because of how unrelentingly violent the longest and most famous section (The Part About the Murders) is, but for a novel so long, it's hardly inscrutable. -L'Ange, avant-garde surrealist feature by Patrick Bokanowski. Not sure how I stumbled across this a while back, and I have yet to see any of his other work, but this instantly became one of my favorite films. It has no explicit plot, but instead is a series of vignettes loosely thematically connected, which seem to hint in their progression at some form of transcendence. It's difficult to explain, but it is the single most dream-like film I've ever seen, and I was absolutely floored by it. It's not too difficult to find online, and I think there's even a European blu-ray. Here's a trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERj66hYLCkg
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The Art Life is pretty good, it's more about him starting off as an artist, but there's a lot in it that circles and cycles back - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXEU_Kj3NI What I like about Lynch's stuff isn't so much the dreamlike atmosphere in itself - but that combined with the everyday. Though the everyday bit is still self-aware and there are levels in terms of one reality to another. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7bAZCOk0Sc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QzTZoSvZvM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHW5G6JD0Ro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3erNNfe6UQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpQsgSBEaQY
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I finally watched The Elephant Man last night and what a lovely film it is.
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Never heard of 2666, gonna check that out very soon
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May 8, 2019 13:50
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I caught the last half of Possessed (1947) with Joan Crawford the other day and it seemed like a Lynch antecedent.
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Escobarbarian posted:Never heard of 2666, gonna check that out very soon The funny thing about Bolano is that he thought of himself, first and foremost, as a poet (his novel, The Savage Detectives, is a thinly-veiled parodic account of his and his poet friends' lives as young hellraising artists), but knew he was in ill health and turned to novel writing as a way to provide his family with financial security after his death. And his novels are fantastic despite this.
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Quoting for later
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I rewatched Eyes Wide Shut for the first time in a long time last night and was fascinated by how much it plays out like a Lynch movie at times. I mean, I'm sure Kubrick inspired Lynch and not the other way around, but yeah. That was wild to see because I'd never noticed it before.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I mean, I'm sure Kubrick inspired Lynch and not the other way around Stanley Kubrick's favorite film was Eraserhead.
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