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So today was an interesting afternoon, I'll throw up what I've seen so far (probably nothing new for some), but since I don't follow the Facebook group and casually follow this, I'm ok with it. I'll have to think on this more and head out in another day or so, unless others have some good ideas. Pictures are here: https://imgur.com/a/ous0NxT I headed towards Cherokee Park and drove around the scenic loop a couple of times. I started at Daniel Boone, circled around and hit the Hogan Fountain + Pavilion. After that, I crossed the three bridges, and parked near the fourth. I took a number of photos of the bridge, and saw an odd area to the right of it. The bolt seemed random in a tree, but as I saw no other clues (and it was a bit of a chance to fall in) I didn't go crazy digging. After that, I walked over the bridge and inspected the Christensen Fountain and surrounding area. It's hill buts up to the golf course, so there were tons of golf balls from wayward shots. Clearly someone had been here recently, as they had flipped the large rock behind the top, but didn't dig there. From the fountain, there are no visible benches of any type, and quite frankly nothing much around. There is some construction near the fourth bridge, but I can't tell from what. I walked back across the fourth bridge, and found the start of the Baringer Hill path. I didn't know if this was the "Emblem of B" so I went down it a ways and came upon a singular Worlds Fair bench. It is about 300 yards from the boat, and I took photos from every perspective here (the plaque was the Anthem foundation). I walked around in all the surrounding area but found no further ideas/clues. I went back to my car and drove around the scenic loop. You go past the golf course and some pavilions (tons of Worlds Fair Benches here) until you finally loop back to the beginning of the trail. From there I went outside of the loop to the Bernheim Bridge. As many noted - it is under construction and is missing much of its detail. I took photos of the two plaques on the worlds fair benches closest to it, but saw nothing else of note in the area. After that I went a bit further to the Belknap bridge - again - going down the "Emblem of B" road. Here I noticed the first fountain that appears to match the shape in the window. It's right next to a kids playground, and while there is one world's fair bench, nothing else is obvious. I regretfully didn't take as many pictures of this area, but am not sure it is relevant - while it is in Cherokee Park, it is not directly on the scenic trail that follows the route in the poem. Finally - before I left the area - I decided to take one more loop on the main trail, starting at Daniel Boone. The part "A man of adventure stands at the beginning and end" has me that the treasure is near the start of the path - no matter which way you go on the road loop, you go over four bridges. As soon as I started I pulled over, as I noticed another one of the fountains that matches the window in the picture. This one is squatter than the other, but directly next to it had a dedication to "Ann Browning Byers." I don't know if this the "Emblem of B", but similarly close (you can see in the subsequent photos) there are stairs to "go down below" next to it. Also, within eye site, there is a monarch waystation sign. There are four benches in the area near that Daniel Boone fountain, I took pictures of each plaque. I'm not certain I'm any closer to finding it than the rest, but it was fun to get out to one of the best parks in the city. I always wanted to find the one in New Orleans, being born and raised there, so this is a fun opportunity now that I live in Louisville. I'll post any updates if I get any, otherwise appreciate any input based on the pictures. I'm glad to go back out.
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Image 13 - Louisville  Excellent Stuff. Thanks again. Paul Proteus posted:The bolt seemed random in a tree, but as I saw no other clues (and it was a bit of a chance to fall in) I didn't go crazy digging. Pull that bolt. It has been thrown around previously that the casque isn't actually buried in the place where the image and verse direct you, but there is rather a less disruptive method for acknowledging success and leading you to a place where it isn't a criminal offense to dig a hole.  There was a local treasure hunt around my town for years where the puzzlemaster's method was to seal a 10 dollar bill in wax wrapped around a nail that he would drill/hammer into various wood structures. You would literally pull a "fake" nail out of the location. That's way out there and Im not proposing this is the precise method, but it's something to consider. I don't think a casque is buried in Cherokee Park, but the image and verse seem to lead you there to find what it is you need to find to tell you where the casque actually is. Maybe. quote:
Awesome recon. Thank you so much for taking the time to do all of this and give good detail of what you saw. Need to digest this report a little more but wanted to give an immediate reaction to say thank you. I will certainly have some future suggestions if you are willing to head out again soon provided the casque hasn't been dug up. Every Worlds Fair Bench is important, even if that's scavenger hunting and not puzzle solving. Find the ones in the vicinity of where the verse seems to flow.
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Apr 1, 2019 02:46
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Lurker saying "this is cool." good luck weirdos I just wish this was progress on an old puzzle but cool anyway
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There never seems to be enough local people willing to actually go outside and look for clues in these hunts. Seems like even the locals would rather use google than their feet and eyes in their own backyard. I’ll never understand that, but the recent effort in Louisville is greatly appreciated. Best of luck cracking the final clues.
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Apr 1, 2019 12:12
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Yeah, it’s great to have boots on the ground in this thread. Thanks Paul!
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Apr 1, 2019 12:35
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3M TA3 posted:There never seems to be enough local people willing to actually go outside and look for clues in these hunts. Seems like even the locals would rather use google than their feet and eyes in their own backyard. I’ll never understand that, but the recent effort in Louisville is greatly appreciated. Best of luck cracking the final clues. Also thank God it isn’t winter. I’d hate for him to break a wrist.
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Apr 1, 2019 15:10
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Looking at picture and the map again - the curves on the bottom of the picture that make up the shelf seem to match I-64 on the northern part of Cherokee Park perfectly. Doesn't help much. Trying to focus on branches, outline of the man, and even monarch wing pattern and the trails in/around Cherokee.
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Paul Proteus posted:Looking at picture and the map again - the curves on the bottom of the picture that make up the shelf seem to match I-64 on the northern part of Cherokee Park perfectly. I think it’s the curve on bridge 4 he posted in the albums. The hand rail.
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Apr 1, 2019 21:47
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The foot plus 'boot' plus dress hem form a negative space arrow to me, pointing down and to the left.
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Image 13 - Louisville KY Big thanks again for your work up until now, Paul. Look forward to the results of your future outings. There are "only" 300 some people in the facebook group, so hopefully the swarm to Louisville isn't too much. Definitely working against the clock though. Let me know what you come up with. With the news from the Facebook team who broke the Lousiville location to the internet, things are moving along rapidly. Here are some additional interesting things to consider that have also been floating around there and elsewhere on the net that haven't made it to this thread. There are also some very obviously sketchy conclusions and theories being bandied about, but I'll leave those to Drunk Nerds to handle. Close up of details on the Daniel Boone Statue at the entrance of Cherokee Park  Pan sculpture on the Hogan Fountain, not only has the cloven hoof, but:   Big Rock Being compared to the "boot" in the image. I thought I saw some images of Big Rock that did a little better justice to the comparison than what I whipped together on the fly, but whatever.  Merlot Brougham fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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Apr 2, 2019 05:31
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I'd poke around below that line in the rock...
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Apr 2, 2019 05:41
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Dadbod Apocalypse posted:I'd poke around below that line in the rock... Not sure how accessible that is right now - that river gets very swollen with rain, and it has rained a lot this spring. That said, my goal is to head over there after work, so I'll snoop around.
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Image 13 - LouisvillePaul Proteus posted:Not sure how accessible that is right now - that river gets very swollen with rain, and it has rained a lot this spring. Looking forward to seeing what you come across based upon our prior discussion. Keep up the excellent work. I am of the understanding the water is pretty high. Just speculating, but given the possibility of some original casques being overtaken by water, it may have been a point of consideration for the tribute. He did make the point to say the protective box is waterproof. (Edit: to clarify, I dont in the least think anything would be underwater or anywhere that would be a potential drowning hazard. Just another little anomally like the added "church property" caveat.) I have't looked up the actual law myself but chatter says there is a strict "No Dig" ordinance in Louisville, so we are again back to the whole idea that the "twist" has something to do with there being nothing physically buried in Cherokee Park, but something around the place you are being directed to. Maybe you'll see something of that nature around "the spot". Anyway, keep a sharp eye out there, Paul. Good luck. Merlot Brougham fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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Apr 2, 2019 15:05
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Digging and other means of hiding items for treasure hunts that involve what may he construed as destruction of property are bound to influence newer hunts like the Tribute or TTOTC to find less controversial means. Seems there are fewer concerns when an object is small, unobtrusive, or only needing to be pried loose from the turf, like using screwdriver sized tool at no more than 6" depth. For larger objects, such as Fenn's chest or the Tribute box, I would seriously consider a pile of smallish stones from the natural surroundings.
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Urban Smurf posted:Digging and other means of hiding items for treasure hunts that involve what may he construed as destruction of property are bound to influence newer hunts like the Tribute or TTOTC to find less controversial means. Finally a coherent post from Urban Smurf!
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Went back out again today, mostly focusing near the Daniel Boone area and the "Big Rock." To preemptively spoil the ending - no casque today. Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/FduxqWh I started at the beginning of the scenic route, because I still think there has to be more at the beginning. To much from the photo and the verse hit this area. I took a bunch of pictures for armchair sleuths to review if anything jumps out with the numbers or names. First few are the front/back of a plaque near Daniel Boone. It's interesting that she did both Boone, and the Hogan Fountain - both integral to this tribute in the imagery we see. I crossed the road to get to his statue on the "island" and took a variety of pictures. C.C. Bickel was a cigar baron of the area in years past, and humorously, his brand was "Dan'l Boone" cigars. It was donated in 1906. The cross on Boone's chest clearly matches the end of the axe in the painting. Behind the statue, directly under the Bickel plaque, was a newish rock and sunken earth. I didn't dare dig at this point, as you can see how open it is and that roundabout is a busy intersection. I'll have to go out and see if there is anything there, but I seriously doubt it. It's in what normally is a flower bed, surrounded by road - it seems to break two of the rules. I took some more pictures in the area (I missed the Baringer Spring engraving before), and left. The figure 8 of wood blocks is near the golf course, past the 4 bridge + Christiansen fountain. Seemed odd, although not sure if relevant to the hunt. The final set of pictures is a bunch from the area surrounding "Big Rock" park. There is a pavilion with 7 windows, which some of the Facebook noted might fit the verse. Nothing else in/around it was significant. There are a few more pictures of the area near Belknap bridge. The bench, which I know isn't part of this hunt (even though there are the viking beads) reminds me that each of these plaques represents a loss. In this case, it was a young man who passed last year - his family had covered it in ribbons with messages. It was honestly heartbreaking. Finally - I got as close as I could to "big rock" for the posters above. It's not really possible to get to the area behind it without going for a swim. I checked various rocks/areas and found nothing of note, except for the pictures. To another day! Paul Proteus fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Apr 3, 2019 |
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Apr 3, 2019 01:14
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Can someone link me to an explanation of the World's Fair bench thing? I feel like I missed something huge.
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tacodaemon posted:Can someone link me to an explanation of the World's Fair bench thing? I feel like I missed something huge. Bottom left of the painting is a side view of a worlds fair bench.
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Image 13 - Louisvilletacodaemon posted:Can someone link me to an explanation of the World's Fair bench thing? I feel like I missed something huge.  That style of bench was originally designed for the 1939 New York World's Fair but are now a popular design that appear all over the country. It was the first direct match from the painting to be posted on the facebook page about the hunt so the idea that a World's Fair Bench would play a part in the solve has been a topic of consideration since that early connection was made. They are also all over the place in Cherokee Park.
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Someone on the FB shared this: https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Louis...iJv9MuVw35NyH7k That's prettyyyyyy awesome.
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Maybe someone who is completely immersed in the Tribute can answer, if the Heiberg facade is in Louisville and the Boone statue is far away in Lexington, then would it be worth considering some place farther, out in the "boonies" like Twin Branch or Twin Knobs?
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Image 13Urban Smurf posted:Maybe someone who is completely immersed in the Tribute can answer, if the Heiberg facade is in Louisville and the Boone statue is far away in Lexington, then would it be worth considering some place farther, out in the "boonies" like Twin Branch or Twin Knobs? The Boone statue is located in Louisville at one of the entrances to Cherokee Park. The copy is in Richmond, Kentucky on the campus of Eastern Kentucky University. I am personally not aware of a copy of this statue being in Lexington, unless I am missing something?
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No, I was mistaken. I'm not familiar with the area.b to what does the "Your way has a twin" reference? Anyone know yet?
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Urban Smurf posted:No, I was mistaken. I'm not familiar with the area.b to what does the "Your way has a twin" reference? Anyone know yet? Some people theorize that it is because there is both a walking path and a driving path that does the scenic loop from Daniel Boone to the Christiansen fountain. There's still room to debate though, given nothing has been found, and it's not hard & fast like some of the other clues.
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Image 13 - Louisville?Urban Smurf posted:"Your way has a twin" reference? Anyone know yet? Facebook seems to know 100% for certain, but it's confusing to me. I don't understand why so many people can be so sure when they disagree with so many things in so many different places with the other people who speak with such confidence about their own certainty. On that note, here is what will always be my favorite thing ever of all time relating to the secret unless this is just GFG's burner account: Merlot Brougham fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Apr 5, 2019 |
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I did some of my usual stream o looseness thought action and now I'm wondering if a Peter Pan plan is involved. Boonies = "out in the middle of nowhere" = Neverland ("the sea"?) 2003 Peter Pan film by P.J. Hogan (same name as the weird Hogan Fountain featuring mythical Pan character in Cherokee Park). Peter Pan has a set of characters called The Twins. I have no certainty about this, but it looks like a good dose for the rabbit-hole inclined.
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There we go — welcome back!
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Dadbod Apocalypse posted:There we go — welcome back! Lol!
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Image 13Urban Smurf posted:I did some of my usual stream o looseness thought action and now I'm wondering if a Peter Pan plan is involved. Boonies = "out in the middle of nowhere" = Neverland ("the sea"?) Some dude on Facebook thinks the "Boonies" theory is so good he copped it from you without properly citing his sources. Merlot Brougham fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Apr 9, 2019 |
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Funny. It's about principles. Any decent puzzlemaker is going to use better principles to make their hunt. Finding a few hopeful links to an idea is nothing special. It takes more than powers of the imagination tou see how things really work. Has anyone determined what the tree branch is all about? Random roadside tree here. 
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Image 13Urban Smurf posted:Funny. It's about principles. Any decent puzzlemaker is going to use better principles to make their hunt. Finding a few hopeful links to an idea is nothing special. It takes more than powers of the imagination tou see how things really work. Nothing posted publicly seems to provide a satisfactory explanation for the tree branch yet, no. Unless I missed a big reveal somewhere.
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Found this link buried in my google docs for no known reason. Had a good  about ithttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4--1MkbLX0BWmpWWm9rUUFmY00/view?ths=true
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It’s kind of amusing that the 13th is (almost definitely) narrowed down to the park/general area where it’s located but people are clueless about the specifics. You would think with all of the people in the FB group that have had boots on the ground, someone would see something. That’s right, they’ve all got donkey brains.
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Image 13DeNofa posted:It’s kind of amusing that the 13th is (almost definitely) narrowed down to the park/general area where it’s located but people are clueless about the specifics. You would think with all of the people in the FB group that have had boots on the ground, someone would see something. There are certain things some people are keeping their guard up about that isn't necessarily being broadcast on the facebook group, but there is also a lot of repeat information and white noise over there as well.
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Apr 19, 2019 14:58
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I have faith Urban Smurf will find it.
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Piggy Smalls posted:I have faith Urban Smurf will find it. Last I knew he wasnt closely following the tribute hunt, unfortunately.
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New Orleans Without looking at the rest of the thread and skimming the New Orleans ones before: I have a solve for New Orleans. I think it's pretty solid. Just realised that we send people like Burnstyle out. What do I do? FelchTragedy fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Apr 20, 2019 |
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Whatever you do, don't put a shovel in the ground. That will ruin the search for everyone who wants to play around in Google maps street view for the next 35 years.
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FelchTragedy posted:New Orleans Message burnstyle and ask. Although he found a lot of plaster that strongly resembled the found casques at his really good solve spot last year.
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FelchTragedy posted:New Orleans break both your wrists ASAP you loving coward
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