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i am tim!
Jan 5, 2005

God damn it, where are my ant keys?! I'm gonna miss my flight!
I lost track of the Bunny Perspective guy after watching a video of his where the central argument was “If Michael Jackson had to molest some kids to make his music, then it was worth it.” That was... shocking to see the notMax puppet say and nod to, like it was obvious wisdom.

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Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

FoldableHuman posted:


After the split, even though he had his own viewers, he just stopped making stuff with any regularity, didn't really do any prep for the blip shutdown, and kept jumping formats. Basically the last six years have been a cycle of New Project -> Isn't An Instant Hit -> Give Up After 2-5 Videos -> Rant On Twitter About Haters And Phoneys And Tag In People Who Haven't Talked To Him In Years Further Burning Bridges.


Huh, there's a guy I know who basically does the same thing, alternating between podcasts, fanbook projects and youtube channels, he's done easily over a dozen combined, but he very rarely gets past episode 2 of any of his projects. And beause he switches he completely rebrands his social media. So even if you liked the guy personally good luck remembering him.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The most notable thing about Dr. Horrible is that the commentary track is a musical about the hollywood writers’ guild strike, which Whedon was super supportive of and went around the country lecturing about, that ends with him admitting it was a huge failure that didn’t get anything for anyone. Also one of the writers sings a song about how the only roles she can get when acting are scientist or computer programmer because she’s an asian woman who wears glasses, and then later I recognized her on Dollhouse where she played a computer programmer.

Dr. horrible's sing along was when I reached Peak Whedon and never was able to stomach his style quite the same afterward. It's cute and a bit funny, but it's also the apotheosis of the Whedon Whiplash.

"Oh look, it's all funny, colorful cartoony stuff, the hero is giving the villain a power wedgie! What delighful hijin...Oh gently caress _that_ explosion was realistic all of a sudden! She has -shrapnel- piercing her lungs and is drowning in her own BLOOD! Killed by the LIES of the one who loved her!!"

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Roth posted:

Was that the guy who would post takedowns of various internet personalities, or did that guy have a classy suit gimmick instead?

I thought Asalieri was the guy who did internet critic takedowns.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

i am tim! posted:

I lost track of the Bunny Perspective guy after watching a video of his where the central argument was “If Michael Jackson had to molest some kids to make his music, then it was worth it.” That was... shocking to see the notMax puppet say and nod to, like it was obvious wisdom.

I started watching him after he showed up in Kyle’s Melancholia video, breezed through a few of his vids, thought the puppet was kinda neat even if the guy the behind it was a little rambly and weird, got to that one and :yikes:’d out of it super hard and never went back to watch another thing he did since. Then I heard he had a giant meltdown and was fired from Chez Apoc and was like “yeah, sounds about right.”

TheMonkRocks45
Apr 18, 2019

by FactsAreUseless

FoldableHuman posted:

Not as his core content, but a big part of the reason we split from him was that he just would not stop picking fights with other producers and their fans. He had this huge chip on his shoulder over the fact that he never got recruited by TGWTG and used anything resembling success as an excuse to, like, throw himself a custom "How Do You Like Them Apples, Doug?!" parade.

After the split, even though he had his own viewers, he just stopped making stuff with any regularity, didn't really do any prep for the blip shutdown, and kept jumping formats. Basically the last six years have been a cycle of New Project -> Isn't An Instant Hit -> Give Up After 2-5 Videos -> Rant On Twitter About Haters And Phoneys And Tag In People Who Haven't Talked To Him In Years Further Burning Bridges.

I dunno, it's tragic and I feel bad but he's toxic AF and hasn't adapted, grown up, or moved on.

Actually looking at his channel now, it looks like he doesn't do the bunny perspective anymore. At least the Isle of Rangoon keeps the puppets, and those guys now do riffs. Granted they do some reviews mainly looking at characters from video games and reviewing deadly games episodes, but still.

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I’m glad the imperative to play a character in order to do analysis has mostly withered away. It seems like inheritance from James Rolfe, who also shouldn’t have done it, that got oversimplified into a way of excusing preposterous, thoughtless hyperbole, and for a while I could really see some producers chafing under the obligation. Like, “version of myself who’s a thoughtless jerk or who cares too much about something I actually care about” is needlessly confusing and only necessary if a person can’t produce a nuanced perspective (or is forced by economic reality to pander to 14-year-olds who won’t accept nuance).

A lot of reviewers play a character because it helps create a barrier between themselves and the criticism that is inherit in being a youtuber. I know Octavius Kitten has said so much about her persona. She's already getting sick of it too. Folks like the AVGN are stuck in their characters. I don't know if there is a public facing breakdown of which Rolfe's video get the most videos, but I'd be willing to bet he's pretty sick of the character and keeps doing it simply because its what pays the bills. I think he does probably enjoy the production side of it and part of the reason behinds his elaborate skits is that it scratches his filmmaker itch.

Folks like Olly do characters, I think partially, because he's an actor so it helps keep process of making this videos fun for him.

Of course he's also good at it. Despite his bad takes regarding Bailey, there are things I like that Coffin says, particularly in his Adversaries series... but he needs to stop his skits. They aren't funny and his acting is stiff and cheesy.

tl,rl: People who are good at skits should keep doing them. People who are bad at them should stop.

Calaveron posted:

Imagine the worst acted snl or mad TV skit or any other TV show or movie with the shittiest actors, now realize that the best YouTube skit is worse than that

MadTV < Contapoints

fallenturtle fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Apr 20, 2019

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i am tim! posted:

I lost track of the Bunny Perspective guy after watching a video of his where the central argument was “If Michael Jackson had to molest some kids to make his music, then it was worth it.” That was... shocking to see the notMax puppet say and nod to, like it was obvious wisdom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YdFTlW6xbs

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



achillesforever6 posted:

Anyone watch this doc on the fall of Channel Awesome?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcEJJpt3Y5k

That and there is a charm to what he does

having taken some time today to sit down and watch this, all i gotta say is: what the ever-loving gently caress was this dude thinking with his choices for background music, it is unbearable and extremely distracting and also not even remotely fits the tone of the video at all.

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015

The actual content of the video is pretty good especially since some of that came out after the #ChangeTheChannel movement came and gone, including Brad Jones' utter lack of giving a hoot. On the other hand it feels like I've seen 4 videos on ChangeTheChannel now. QuintonReviews had one of the best.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



sure, the actual content is fine. however i don't need to hear heavy metal music while listening to a dude describe underage girls being groomed to be sexually assaulted, like what the gently caress.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Sephyr posted:

Dr. horrible's sing along was when I reached Peak Whedon and never was able to stomach his style quite the same afterward. It's cute and a bit funny, but it's also the apotheosis of the Whedon Whiplash.

"Oh look, it's all funny, colorful cartoony stuff, the hero is giving the villain a power wedgie! What delighful hijin...Oh gently caress _that_ explosion was realistic all of a sudden! She has -shrapnel- piercing her lungs and is drowning in her own BLOOD! Killed by the LIES of the one who loved her!!"

Also the groanworthy joke of horrible getting everything he wanted and all it cost him was a Penny

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Dragonatrix posted:

Oh wow, Atrocity Guide (despite the name, her stuff is very similar to Down The Rabbit Hole) released a new video today and her chosen subject was... forums user Caro! Now that takes me back.
I was in the D&D forums when it came out that he was somehow alive after four years being MIA and it was pretty insane. I remember reading his posts for years during that period where he was threatening to go to the ME and then actually while he was there. It sounds like the guy got extremely lucky that someone found out he was an American and therefore had some value to the regime holding him. I don't know if it was ever confirmed that he was in a Syrian regime torture prison but the Assad people definitely had him until Kerry negotiated something with the Russians.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7nw6anYOQo

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Its Cat Month at Cinema Nippon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TSa-iO_yhY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYHxsBlXqtE

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Sanguinia posted:

Hey, if you have an hour, this video essay about Roseanne (the show) popped up on my feed and it's incredible.

Roseanne of The Conners, A Leftist Reading of the First Nine Seasons

The ending of the video makes me assume he is gonna talk about the new show or at least where Roseanne got messed up from that accident and went full super chud.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Yeah, there's supposed to be a second part coming covering season 10.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



DoubleCakes posted:

The actual content of the video is pretty good especially since some of that came out after the #ChangeTheChannel movement came and gone, including Brad Jones' utter lack of giving a hoot. On the other hand it feels like I've seen 4 videos on ChangeTheChannel now. QuintonReviews had one of the best.
It's sad that Brad has still backed them after all of this. He's basically the only one left other than the Walkers and those two actors who came in much later and I assume are actual employees of CA. I watch his stuff occasionally but it's disturbing to me that after all of that, particularly their complicity in the Justin Carmichael grooming stuff, he has not left. It's pretty amazing (I had forgotten) that they responded to the previous accusation of someone grooming underage girls for sex by not only revealing that there was a 2nd accuser, but also revealing who the predator was.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
Brad's participated directly in the harassment of ex-CA contributors.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Those CA collapse summary videos seem unseemly to me. I guess it’s good to document what happened if it would otherwise be forgotten, but they generally seem exploitative and don’t do a lot other than describe what happened and offer disapproval. Sarah Z did one and looked at people’s twitter subscriptions in order to speculate about who was still friends with who.

For me it all just ends up on the wrong side of treating living people’s lives like serialized drama, especially the speculation about what people might do next or about what might have happened in private between people. It’s the burden of celebrity dropped onto regular people who lack the resources to protect themselves from celebrity.

Also there’s always going to be an uptick in targeted harassment whenever any kind of internet drama gets attention. I don’t give a poo poo about Doug Walker or whoever, but I don’t like the idea of people’s mothers getting swatted or declared dead or whatever hosed-up gamergate weapons people deploy on innocents for no reason.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

I didn't want to do anything more on the subject after the Justin Carmical revelations came out. That was just painful - to think he was such a respected member of the community, someone so many of us grieved for and for all that to be exposed about exactly what kind of person he was...at that point it was just best left for people closer to it to offer up their thoughts, if they could/were willing. Pat the NES Punk had a good podcast about it as I recall (being that he worked with Justin at Retroware, and nope - CA didn't think to tell Retroware anything about what they'd found either which is pretty disgusting seeing as that meant he got to go to more events)

Pirate Jenny
Mar 28, 2006

Sie wissen nicht, mit wem Sie reden.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Those CA collapse summary videos seem unseemly to me. I guess it’s good to document what happened if it would otherwise be forgotten, but they generally seem exploitative and don’t do a lot other than describe what happened and offer disapproval. Sarah Z did one and looked at people’s twitter subscriptions in order to speculate about who was still friends with who.

For me it all just ends up on the wrong side of treating living people’s lives like serialized drama, especially the speculation about what people might do next or about what might have happened in private between people. It’s the burden of celebrity dropped onto regular people who lack the resources to protect themselves from celebrity.

Also there’s always going to be an uptick in targeted harassment whenever any kind of internet drama gets attention. I don’t give a poo poo about Doug Walker or whoever, but I don’t like the idea of people’s mothers getting swatted or declared dead or whatever hosed-up gamergate weapons people deploy on innocents for no reason.

They always get details wrong, too. Like they speak with such authority yet their reading comprehension leaves something to be desired. This last one gets a big yikes from me, dog.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

DoctorWhat posted:

Brad's participated directly in the harassment of ex-CA contributors.

Brad refusing to distance himself from the Walkers was sketchy as gently caress and rightly made a lot of people question his motives, but it was when he turned on Allison and Phelan and came knives out for them when he thought no one was paying attention, that was the point of no return for him.

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook
It also reminds me of the horror Youtubers who like to make videos about disappearances and murders and real tragedies. It's not necessarily wrong to do true crime stuff, but the juxtaposition with their dumb ARG analysis poo poo and their propensity for treating everything like a puzzle box makes it feel really tasteless. Doubly so when it's like... a Youtuber who disappeared or something bad (at least allegedly) happened to and it's like "uh... you're literally capitalizing on a tragedy that happened to one of your peers?"

It's why drama videos in general, especially about semi-recent events or private individuals, always rub me the wrong way.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

nine-gear crow posted:

Brad refusing to distance himself from the Walkers was sketchy as gently caress and rightly made a lot of people question his motives, but it was when he turned on Allison and Phelan and came knives out for them when he thought no one was paying attention, that was the point of no return for him.

And it was on a podcast behind a paywall, too. Classy.

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

Brad said poo poo way, way before that in mid April in a youtube comment thread, but he deleted it. I was hoping he'd change his mind, but he just stayed the course.

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015

Linear Zoetrope posted:

It also reminds me of the horror Youtubers who like to make videos about disappearances and murders and real tragedies. It's not necessarily wrong to do true crime stuff, but the juxtaposition with their dumb ARG analysis poo poo and their propensity for treating everything like a puzzle box makes it feel really tasteless.

This is something Nick Nocturne has done occasionally. I forget which video but I remember he's talking about some ARG thing or something and then all of the sudden he namedrops that guy who shot up Sandy Hook without changing his tone at all and it's like you're a cartoon interdimensional cat, you do not need to get that real.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
shockingly, the guy who made his mark on the internet by going "eewwww" at ET porn is kind of a dildo

e: this is re Brad, not the collapse videos, in case that wasn't obvious

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

shockingly, the guy who made his mark on the internet by going "eewwww" at ET porn is kind of a dildo

e: this is re Brad, not the collapse videos, in case that wasn't obvious

It’s kind of a shame because Brad was otherwise down to earth, self-reflexive, and willing to cut objectively lovely people out of his life straight cold that you’d think he would have been one of the first people to jump ship when all the awful poo poo about Doug, Rob and Michaud spilled out but... no.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

nine-gear crow posted:

Brad refusing to distance himself from the Walkers was sketchy as gently caress and rightly made a lot of people question his motives, but it was when he turned on Allison and Phelan and came knives out for them when he thought no one was paying attention, that was the point of no return for him.

That's the moment I stopped following his stuff, despite following him for years and even watching the Snob movie.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



nine-gear crow posted:

Brad refusing to distance himself from the Walkers was sketchy as gently caress and rightly made a lot of people question his motives, but it was when he turned on Allison and Phelan and came knives out for them when he thought no one was paying attention, that was the point of no return for him.
What did he say? Until someone mentioned him going after people I had not heard of him saying much about the whole thing

adamcantsleep
Mar 20, 2016

DoubleCakes posted:

The actual content of the video is pretty good especially since some of that came out after the #ChangeTheChannel movement came and gone, including Brad Jones' utter lack of giving a hoot. On the other hand it feels like I've seen 4 videos on ChangeTheChannel now. QuintonReviews had one of the best.

Hard pass. That guy managed to produce a doc that's as cringey as CA content. Plus, when you find out this CV guy used to talk about raping one of Doug's sidekicks (Tamara?) for lulz...yeesh.

The many vids about CTC by those who weren't there have been appallingly desperate, save maybe Quinton's. A bunch of wannabe Keemstars using this document for views and not offering anything of their own.

Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!
https://twitter.com/TheQuartering/status/1120345154437767169

That feeling where you know what Warner Bros. did was a flagrant abuse of power but the fact that it was manually claimed and against a chud like TheQuartering no less having a meltdown over the Mortal Kombat 11 ending for Jax makes you silently nod your head in agreement at said blockage.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Sometimes you must bend the law to do whats right.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


live by capitalism, die by capitalism

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Viewtiful Jew posted:

https://twitter.com/TheQuartering/status/1120345154437767169

That feeling where you know what Warner Bros. did was a flagrant abuse of power but the fact that it was manually claimed and against a chud like TheQuartering no less having a meltdown over the Mortal Kombat 11 ending for Jax makes you silently nod your head in agreement at said blockage.

Looks like he got... quartered :c00l:

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



is he the only chud who melted down about something that wasn't sonya's tits?

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Ghostlight posted:

is he the only chud who melted down about something that wasn't sonya's tits?

oh no people are going apoplectic about Jax's arcade mode ending, it's incredible

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

I'm surprised they aren't celebrating Ronda Rousey voicing Sonya Blade. Someone who shares their lovely views is voicing a character in a game they like!

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DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Ghostlight posted:

is he the only chud who melted down about something that wasn't sonya's tits?

let's be fair, i'm sure he melted down about that as well

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