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alex314 posted:There was a street in my city named after socialist family killed by Germans. They were OG Soviet style socialism believers, as far as I know didn't engage in terrorism against interwar Poland, got killed fighting Germans. And PiS shitheads still used that dumb anti-totalitarian regimes supporters law against them. Street my mother lives on got changed from Julian Brun's (a prewar communist writer/activist, sentenced to 8 years in jail for political beliefs) to... Giordano Bruno. So they didn't even have to change the signs "ul. Bruna" 
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Anne Frank Funk posted:Street my mother lives on got changed from Julian Brun's (a prewar communist writer/activist, sentenced to 8 years in jail for political beliefs) to... Classic. Many Ukrainian streets were renamed like that. Turns out there were many Ukrainian nationalist activists with the same last name as Red Army soldiers and officers.
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Paladinus posted:Classic. Many Ukrainian streets were renamed like that. Turns out there were many Ukrainian nationalist activists with the same last name as Red Army soldiers and officers. They tried to pull that with Dniprodzerzhynsk claiming it was for Felix's brother, but no one bought that. Anything in Odessa oblast named for Petrov ought to be renamed Ilfopetrovsk, though.
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OddObserver posted:Ilfopetrovsk
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Teacher's strike in Poland is in its third day. Middle school exams begin today, unfortunately they're going ahead as enough people, mostly government supporters and clergy, have signed up as volunteer scabs to help run the exam commissions. Not good news for the strikers  Also helping are some opposition-aligned local politicians, who, while loudly proclaiming their support for teachers, doubled down on efforts to help exams go ahead because Won't Somebody Think Of The Children.  I don't think libs understand how strikes work.
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This is the most bizarre thing I see happening in other countries with elections. No incumbent president would dream of doing this in the US. Presidential candidates who are not invited a presidential debate will complain to any member of the press about it. Jill Stein of the US Green Party will try to get into the debate and gets arrested trying.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:This is the most bizarre thing I see happening in other countries with elections. No incumbent president would dream of doing this in the US. Presidential candidates who are not invited a presidential debate will complain to any member of the press about it. Jill Stein of the US Green Party will try to get into the debate and gets arrested trying. The thing is Zelenskyi wanted to have the debate in Olimpiyskiy on the 19th. Still does, I guess. He's not exactly a good polemicist, so the later the debate, and the more informal the setting, the better it is for him. But at that time on the 19th Poroshenko wants to have a proper state-paid debate in a TV studio, because, well, Poroshenko is not popular, and should there be a debate in front of an actual uncontrollable audience who can just shout him down, it's going to be an embarrassment for him. So there is a risk that the two candidates are going to debate no-one at two different places at the same time. Today Poroshenko has also invited Zelenskyi to a debate taking place tomorrow at ICTV, but I doubt Zelenskyi will take the bait.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:This is the most bizarre thing I see happening in other countries with elections. No incumbent president would dream of doing this in the US. Oh, come on, debate shenanigans are common. "Chicken George won't debate", anyone?
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Nadiya Savchenko is out! E: not related to the post above, lol.
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Paladinus posted:Nadiya Savchenko is out! How... how did she get out after planning a loving coup 
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Paladinus posted:Nadiya Savchenko is out! That would be quite the development.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:This is the most bizarre thing I see happening in other countries with elections. No incumbent president would dream of doing this in the US. Presidential candidates who are not invited a presidential debate will complain to any member of the press about it. Jill Stein of the US Green Party will try to get into the debate and gets arrested trying. Trump bailed on one of the Fox News debates and ran his own event at the same time with 1 or 2 of the also runs. I think it pulled higher ratings than the formal debate.
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steinrokkan posted:How... how did she get out after planning a loving coup She's been under arrest for too long, so she's free to go until the next court hearing on May 7.
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OhFunny posted:Trump bailed on one of the Fox News debates and ran his own event at the same time with 1 or 2 of the also runs. I think it pulled higher ratings than the formal debate. it might have been 2012 but i also remember the Newt Gingrich Herman Cain "lol we're both shilling books" bilateral lincoln douglas debate edit yeah i don't think newt ran in 2016
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Saw he got 75% of the vote. Pretty decisive precedent.
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Time to finally see if oligarch sponsored Reagan 2.0 manages to be better or worse than a literal oligarch.
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Why the gently caress are people all over the world electing people with zero political experience? I know people hate politicians but if I have bad experiences with a doctor, I go see ANOTHER DOCTOR, not a college dropout with "ideas".
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AceOfFlames posted:Why the gently caress are people all over the world electing people with zero political experience? I know people hate politicians but if I have bad experiences with a doctor, I go see ANOTHER DOCTOR, not a college dropout with "ideas". That's a very good question! Personally, I think the answer is the absolute disarming of any sort of organized leftist alternative anywhere in the world. Capitalism is failing, many countries are reaching a boiling point where the people are fed up with corruption and are voting for anyone who will "shake up the elites". An actual outsider coming to power would be an unthinkable threat to the status quo, so the status quo creates and markets these "common sense centrist outsiders who are going to fight corruption" candidates to ensure no actual grass-roots candidates has any chance, specially none from the left. Capital's interests are preserved, some low hanging fruit on the tree of corruption are ceremoniously picked while nothing institutional changes, and for a moment people feel things have changed, that the old status quo regime has been punished in some way.
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If you perceive the whole system as corrupt and your vote irrelevant then it's a political statement. Accelerationism for the masses!
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AceOfFlames posted:Why the gently caress are people all over the world electing people with zero political experience? I know people hate politicians but if I have bad experiences with a doctor, I go see ANOTHER DOCTOR, not a college dropout with "ideas". All the actual political parties have bough into the idea of a neoliberal consensus, which never was a consensus to begin with, and was liable to fall apart as soon as any problems started to show up. And because there is nobody among the professional class of political technicians that isn't ideologically conditioned to respond to the systemic problems by continuing the current policies, but harder....
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Three alternative theories, potentially applicable in any combination: 1. Records. The nature of public recordkeeping in the information age has an effect on the fundamental nature of politics. Now, because every action is recorded and every non-political element of a person's life is scrutible, a career in politics has become a liability for success in politics. Foibles and compromises made have only become more visible with no appreciable change in the public expectation, while the power of celebrity has been amplified by new media increasing viability of non-politician candidates. 2. Danger. Experienced candidates have played the game enough to know that it's a dangerous time. They don't want to risk smear campaigns that are more effective thanks to more divisive atmospheres and record availability listed in theory 1, or, in this case, a concern with acute polonium allergies. Power players prop up non-political candidates they can manipulate so the guillotine goes that way. For the coming generation, it feels safer in mid-level positions. 3. Dissatisfaction. Democracies have avoided including qualifying requirements such as education requirements or professional indoctrination requirements for fear of alienating dissent, fostering nepotism, or rebirthing the failed aristocracies that birthed them. Democracy leans heavily on the idea that you can be removed from office and replaced if you don't maintain the support of the people. Enough of the Old Guards have failed to maintained support of the people (or have been more effective at sniping it away from one another due to theories 1 and 2) that people are picking pretty deep on the bench when it comes to their elected officials.
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MiddleOne posted:Time to finally see if oligarch sponsored Reagan 2.0 manages to be better or worse than a literal oligarch. I, I have bad news about how Reagan worked out.
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drilldo squirt posted:I, I have bad news about how Reagan worked out. Oh we're all still living through it.
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Whi is nadiya? I followed her as a pilot abd her capture etc but lost track after that until now. Is she an intelligence agent for the ukraining government?because she was traded for 2 GRU officers which seems like a heavy leverage for "just a pilot"/ became a politician and resigned.
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So far neither Zelenskyi or anyone from his team indicated any sort of sympathy towards Yanikovich, and whenever he is mentioned, it's in the negative light. Maaaaaaybe they'll let him in to testify in the case about people shot by snipers during the revolution, because closing that case is one of the things Zelenskyi did name as a priority. If Yanukovich can prove he wasn't involved in giving any orders to snipers (and it is not completely unlikely), he might take them on that offer even. But again, I very much doubt this will come up soon.
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OddObserver posted:Reminder that Yanukovich is literally a convicted traitor. I doubt he officially received required court papers, so technically he's free to pick them up and then appeal. Would be an incredibly bold move, of course.
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AceOfFlames posted:Why the gently caress are people all over the world electing people with zero political experience? I know people hate politicians but if I have bad experiences with a doctor, I go see ANOTHER DOCTOR, not a college dropout with "ideas". If you mean Ukraine, political class there is sort of like a club, members of which get elected, unelected, sometimes briefly in jail but only members get to play politics. So this time people just voted against the whole club because Zelenskiy is not a member. In other news, according to Gallup 2019 Global Emotions Report, Belarusians are the least amotional people in the world  
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Sekenr posted:If you mean Ukraine, political class there is sort of like a club, members of which get elected, unelected, sometimes briefly in jail but only members get to play politics. So this time people just voted against the whole club because Zelenskiy is not a member.
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anilEhilated posted:Isn't the guy who financed his campaign part of it, though? I read somewhere he was backed by a TV station owner. Kolomoiski is a big time oligarch yup Zelenski is pretty much his proxy
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Sekenr posted:If you mean Ukraine, political class there is sort of like a club, members of which get elected, unelected, sometimes briefly in jail but only members get to play politics. So this time people just voted against the whole club because Zelenskiy is not a member. lol at any country along Southern Europe self reporting anything other than 100%. Including Cyprus.
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I can't find any English sources, and I will admit I don't know how reliable the russian language sources are, but a number of sources are publishing that Ukraine banned Russian from the administration and educatio. https://meduza.io/news/2019/04/25/v...utm_medium=main https://www.forumdaily.com/v-ukrain...5ynJQU0uNnP_jV0 Can someone tell me about the reliability of those sites?
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Dawncloack posted:I can't find any English sources, and I will admit I don't know how reliable the russian language sources are, but a number of sources are publishing that Ukraine banned Russian from the administration and educatio. They are! And it's one stupid law to pass right after Russia's announcement that of simplifying obtaining Russian citizenship for people with LNR and DNR passports. The most contentious thing in the law is that any attempt at even suggesting that Russian should be an official language along with Ukrainian, or even a regional language, as advocating overthrow of the government. That's not going to play well with people living on occupied territories, who are mostly Russian-speaking. A group of Russian-speaking Rada members have already submitted a bill to repeal the law due to numerous violations of Rada voting procedures, and the language law can't be signed now, until that bill is voted on, too. One of the possible reasons behind pushing the language law out is that Zelenskyi wants to call snap elections due to there not being a clear coalition in Rada to form a majority government, as more and more members of Rada previously loyal to Poroshenko defect. This vote can be used to show that the coalition is still alive and well. Some also theorise that Rinat Akhmetov, a prominent Ukrainian oligarch, got a permission to privatise two more regional energy companies in return of one of the parties he sponsors voting for the law. Akhmetov now owns ~30% of Ukrainian energy business. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Apr 27, 2019 |
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Paladinus posted:They are! And it's one stupid law to pass right after Russia's announcement that of simplifying obtaining Russian citizenship for people with LNR and DNR passports. The most contentious thing in the law is that any attempt at even suggesting that Russian should be an official language along with Ukrainian, or even a regional language, as advocating overthrow of the government.
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OddObserver posted:That's not in what's actually passed. Oh, did they get rid of that part in the end? I don't think the final text of the law is available yet, because on the official website of Rada the latest version is the one prepared for the second reading, where this part is still present.
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Paladinus posted:Oh, did they get rid of that part in the end? I don't think the final text of the law is available yet, because on the official website of Rada the latest version is the one prepared for the second reading, where this part is still present. At least per this summary article: https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2019/04/25/7213579/ And yeah, the Rada website is a mess. The education language has a loottt of room interpretation, too. Like what exactly does "alongside" in this expression really mean: quote:гарантується право на навчання в комунальних закладах освіти для здобуття дошкільної та початкової освіти, поряд із державною мовою, мовою відповідної національної меншини I also wonder where the distinction between minority languages (Russian?) and indigenous people's languages (Crimean Tatar, Hungarian, Romanian?) is defined, too.
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