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Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




teh_Broseph posted:

Is there a breakdown of the Catherine thing that covers it better than a tweet of a screencap of a resetera text post from before the game came out?

The transphobic stuff? Idk, just that the guys driving the catherine competative scene quit cause they said the new content is offensive

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PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
http://www.capcomhomearcade.com/home

Capcom's putting out a big dumb pandora box in the shape of their logo with 16 pre-installed arcade games for around $250 - Hyper Fighting's on there, OG Darkstalkers for some reason, Cyberbots, no Alpha, no vs anything, no CPS3.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

The game isn't coming out until September

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

http://www.capcomhomearcade.com/home

Capcom's putting out a big dumb pandora box in the shape of their logo with 16 pre-installed arcade games for around $250 - Hyper Fighting's on there, OG Darkstalkers for some reason, Cyberbots, no Alpha, no vs anything, no CPS3.

What an expensive piece of poo poo

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

http://www.capcomhomearcade.com/home

Capcom's putting out a big dumb pandora box in the shape of their logo with 16 pre-installed arcade games for around $250 - Hyper Fighting's on there, OG Darkstalkers for some reason, Cyberbots, no Alpha, no vs anything, no CPS3.

If it had a better fighting game selection it wouldn't be too awful of a vanity purchase, honestly. Kinda ugly tho.

BattleHamster
Mar 18, 2009

Game line up and design are way worse than I expected, but its cool that more companies are using open-source emulation

Edit: VVV Yea I just checked the retro thread and :aslol: VVV
https://twitter.com/SmokeMonsterTWI/status/1118168545161035777

BattleHamster fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Apr 16, 2019

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

BattleHamster posted:

Game line up and design are way worse than I expected, but its cool that more companies are using open-source emulation

FBA is a non-commercial emulator that they probably aren't allowed to use in this manner.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

FBA License posted:

You may not sell, lease, rent or otherwise seek to gain monetary profit from FB Alpha

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010

teh_Broseph posted:

Is there a breakdown of the Catherine thing that covers it better than a tweet of a screencap of a resetera text post from before the game came out?

that's a pretty accurate summation of the situation

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

http://www.capcomhomearcade.com/home

Capcom's putting out a big dumb pandora box in the shape of their logo with 16 pre-installed arcade games for around $250 - Hyper Fighting's on there, OG Darkstalkers for some reason, Cyberbots, no Alpha, no vs anything, no CPS3.

So they didn't feel the need to put the original Darkstalkers onto the PS3 collection, but it's fine to put it by itself instead of the far more popular Vampire Savior, or even Vampire Hunters as part of a bundle?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

the original catherine had a trans character that it handled in a kind of lovely way. the new catherine handles said character more shittily instead of walking any of it back. thats the sum total of it.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

FBA is a non-commercial emulator that they probably aren't allowed to use in this manner.

Capcom watches nintendo use uncredited emulators and roms and got jealous

brainSnakes
Jul 11, 2011

come back here

BattleHamster posted:

Edit: VVV Yea I just checked the retro thread and :aslol: VVV
https://twitter.com/SmokeMonsterTWI/status/1118168545161035777

Is Capcom going for some kind of The Producers type scam with their fighting game scene where if they completely annihilate it they somehow make a huge earning? Possibly from a bet with Satan? :psyduck:

edit for vvvvvv: Ok that's good to hear, but my question still stands

brainSnakes fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 16, 2019

Dj Meow Mix
Jan 27, 2009

corgicorgicorgicorgi
rockin everywhere


Thing's stupid but:

https://twitter.com/fbalpha/status/1118201306034974721

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy

teh_Broseph posted:

Is there a breakdown of the Catherine thing that covers it better than a tweet of a screencap of a resetera text post from before the game came out?

Basically aside from other dumb transphobic poo poo along the way, there's a "Good" ending where everyone's lives have been improved by virtue of a character going back in time and fixing the past or w/e. For the trans character, this "Good" ending is that she never transitioned and instead still lives as a man and is therefore much happier and healthier and :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Proof:

https://twitter.com/GioMafia/status/1096652888556949504

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


I will note, not as a defender of the scene, it is set in the past relative to the main game and the writing implies she is still trans and just hasn’t surgically transitioned yet in the writing. It doesn’t help how much of a hot topic this is and it’s all fan translations still. But my understanding is the ending doesn’t make her not trans, it just makes her not yet fully out about it.

Game is probably still a bit offensive about it though all things considered.

Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Apr 16, 2019

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Lord_Magmar posted:

I will note, not as a defender of the scene, it is set in the past relative to the main game and the writing implies she is still trans and just hasn’t surgically transitioned yet in the writing. It doesn’t help how much of a hot topic this is and it’s all fan translations still. But my understanding is the ending doesn’t make her not trans, it just makes her not yet fully out about it.

Game is probably still a bit offensive about it though all things considered.

https://twitter.com/GioMafia/status/1096702472192749568?s=19

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Fair enough, did find this by someone who claims to have played and finished the game but I’m not really dying on the hill of Catherine Full Body.

https://vitaparadisa.wordpress.com/2019/02/22/transphobic-mythbusting-catherine-full-body-leaks-and-rumors/

Zand
Jul 9, 2003

~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

drat that guy really went to the wedding in his mechanic jumpsuit

General Morden
Mar 3, 2013

GOTTA HAVE THAT PAX BISONICA

Zand posted:

drat that guy really went to the wedding in his mechanic jumpsuit

he took a cue from the master: daigo umehara

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


My favorite thing about the CAPCOM stick is the left side gets a nice flat panel trim and the right side gets the weird wiggly round shape on their lap for that authentic player 2 experience.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

BattleHamster posted:

In case anyone is interested Netherrealm did a talk at GDC about their transition from lockstep to rollback networking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jb0FOcImdg

Fair warning: it's a really dry talk if you don't care about the technical details of what's going on behind the scenes, but if you are interested its cool to see how much thought and effort they spent on improving their netcode.

This is really interesting, thanks for posting it.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
You can give NRS poo poo for a lot of things, but they TRY, that's for sure.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Reiley posted:

My favorite thing about the CAPCOM stick is the left side gets a nice flat panel trim and the right side gets the weird wiggly round shape on their lap for that authentic player 2 experience.
I think the intention is that you would set it up on a coffee table or something similar in front of your television. Because sharing that thing across two people's laps sounds like a terrible idea.

Lord_Magmar posted:

Fair enough, did find this by someone who claims to have played and finished the game but I’m not really dying on the hill of Catherine Full Body.

https://vitaparadisa.wordpress.com/2019/02/22/transphobic-mythbusting-catherine-full-body-leaks-and-rumors/

Minor tangent, but Ancient Gear - Ultimate Pound is one of my favorite card arts in the game. Doesn't hurt that Ancient gears were my longtime main deck monsters until I quit.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Brought To You By posted:

Minor tangent, but Ancient Gear - Ultimate Pound is one of my favorite card arts in the game. Doesn't hurt that Ancient gears were my longtime main deck monsters until I quit.

It’s a pretty good art, pity the monster isn’t much better than the original Ancient Gear. To bring this back to fighting games anyone got some opinions on the bad looking Jump Force game and playing as Yugi?

Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?


Apparently it's not quite that clear?

https://twitter.com/notrevenant/status/1118340836310360065

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

oh so they're pulling a nintendo

Dj Meow Mix
Jan 27, 2009

corgicorgicorgicorgi
rockin everywhere


Oh man that's gold. That will be a fun poo poo storm to watch unfold

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Any prototypes they made this thing are going to be collectors items in 10 years as they enter public circulation lol

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Want to live in a world where Capcom rolls with it and instead has them running on like a 2000 version of Callus or something. THANKS CHAINSAW MAN!

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
For the curious, here's direct footage of MK11 on Switch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNJXk1lFMWM

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
puyo esports finals going on right now
https://www.twitch.tv/puyopuyo_sega/

RatEarth
Aug 7, 2017

I didn't say that.
but it'd be funny if I did

Brought To You By posted:

I think the intention is that you would set it up on a coffee table or something similar in front of your television. Because sharing that thing across two people's laps sounds like a terrible idea.

Sounds like a great bonding opportunity to me.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

quote:

PSA to anyone buying MK11: the harder towers are literally impossible without rare or better gear and single use consumables, earning these are incredibly grindy and the whole system is designed to get you to spend money on the game
I see a lot of threads saying that earning currency is "grindy", but I think this is a huge understatement. Just consider these points:

Completing the entire story will barely give you enough currency to clear one room in krypt. From this, I got 1 brutality, some common skins and few consumables. You can't so much as clear a single hard tower with all the stuff I got.

Clearing some of the latter towers without at least rare gear and a large number of single use consumables is near impossible. These towers are not just a pure test of fighting skills, they also feature: unblockable blood missiles which drain you life and gives it to the enemy, acid rain, enemy getting armour on low health and some absolutely ridiculous damage modifiers.

Earning said consumables and rare gear is extremely grindy, requiring you to complete event specific and daily towers, as well as clearing multiple easier towers. The krypt chests get progressively more expensive and the drop rate for rare or better items is very low. For context, I opened a total of 23 chests in the krypt and got only 2 rare gear across different characters.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

They've already announced a patch is going out today to fix the balancing of the towers.

Tales of Woe
Dec 18, 2004

isn't that a standard trick for these microtransaction things to err on the side of 'extremely stingy' at launch so if people complain you can scale it back and make them feel like it's fine now.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Tales of Woe posted:

isn't that a standard trick for these microtransaction things to err on the side of 'extremely stingy' at launch so if people complain you can scale it back and make them feel like it's fine now.

It's pretty much always Warner Brothers and idk why.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

Tales of Woe posted:

isn't that a standard trick for these microtransaction things to err on the side of 'extremely stingy' at launch so if people complain you can scale it back and make them feel like it's fine now.

i thought the current thing was for review copies to not have microtransactions and then to patch them in around launch

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Lessail posted:

i thought the current thing was for review copies to not have microtransactions and then to patch them in around launch

They also did this

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brainSnakes
Jul 11, 2011

come back here
I gotta say, I laughed when steam told me Sf5 is doing 12 days of play for free starting today.

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