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Apr 23, 2019 19:38
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On that note, it's weird that martial artists will resort to kicking if they lose one arm, but lose both arms and they just give up.
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Apr 23, 2019 19:41
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Cardiovorax posted:I always find it neat how organically shaped people's bases are when they post them here. I always just pick a spot and make a Minecraft-style square survival box.  Mine doesn't even have walls all the way around it! The cliffs take care of that for me. I did just make a big square box in my Holy Nation run, because there's a lot of mostly-flat space near Blister Hill.
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Apr 23, 2019 19:46
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BMan posted:On that note, it's weird that martial artists will resort to kicking if they lose one arm, but lose both arms and they just give up.
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Apr 23, 2019 19:46
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 Use boats as walls.
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Apr 23, 2019 20:52
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Cardiovorax posted:There's probably some kind of internal mechanical reason for it that makes arms the "weapon" limb no matter what the animation looks like, but it's also just really hard to do martial arts kicks without using your arms for balance, if you prefer that reason. Speaking from personal experience. what's it like fighting beak things
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Apr 23, 2019 21:05
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Imagine an angry parrot hosed a giraffe and their baby is trying to eat you.
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Apr 23, 2019 21:10
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:what's it like fighting beak things 
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Apr 23, 2019 21:16
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Beak things remind me somewhat of Rare Thrumbos in Rimworld except at least the Thrumbos had a ton of goodies you could harvest off them.
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Apr 23, 2019 21:19
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My punch-gods don't care about beak things, they fall like so much chaff before our scything fists. (Also have some crossbow users to attack from range.)
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Apr 23, 2019 21:23
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Saul Kain posted:My punch-gods don't care about beak things, they fall like so much chaff before our scything fists. (Also have some crossbow users to attack from range.) How do I make martial Masters out of my idiot dirt people
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Apr 23, 2019 21:28
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they might one day learn kung fu but they will never stop being idiot dirt people
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Apr 23, 2019 21:29
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Pictured: the absolute worst way to handle a beak thing
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Apr 23, 2019 21:34
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To be a master martial artist, you must punch people. I really recommend the martial arts mat mod, which will let you train to level 15. Its really hard to level up martial arts without having the different moves that you learn as you level up the skill, since at the start you just do a slow punch over and over.
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Apr 23, 2019 21:34
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Tabletops posted:How do I make martial Masters out of my idiot dirt people Or use mods Btw, I wish the AI had a way to recognize when your guys stop being filthy bums and turn into an actual threat to them HO BOI THESE LOOK LIKE ESCAPED SLAVES TO ME! BETTER RUN AFTER THOSE CHUMPS  OH NO HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
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Apr 23, 2019 21:36
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You have to start by doing fisticuffs on a prisoner who's as bad at martial arts as you. Also, equipping the best armor you can and giving the prisoner a rusty wakizashi is very good dodge training.
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Apr 23, 2019 21:39
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BMan posted:Pictured: the absolute worst beak thing 
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Apr 23, 2019 21:41
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Tin Tim posted:Beat up other idiot dirt people in skinner's roam for ages What weapons are you using there? I still have katanas (toppers mostly though) on my main guys. Originally to train dex up and they're effective early on. I should probably switch to something else though. It's just hard cause ill probably get hosed up.
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Apr 23, 2019 22:10
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I got this baka thing mod and the steady the clown one. They are both great. Any other must have nonsense mods like these two? I'm pretty much on the tail end of the game at this point and I'm looking for dumb poo poo to add without breaking the game too much.
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Apr 23, 2019 22:26
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I've defeated the bugmaster and received the best reward I've ever gotten in this game: not having to shuffle around my food store and micromanage the bread oven every week
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Apr 23, 2019 22:31
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Tabletops posted:What weapons are you using there? the only thing weapon skill is used for is determining damage once your melee attack and defence are up, you can swap out to hackers no problem. the only concern is getting a strength of like 60-70 in order to swing them around with impunity
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Apr 23, 2019 22:56
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Tabletops posted:What weapons are you using there? Early on I think going with katanas into polearms should be effective Tin Tim fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Apr 23, 2019 |
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Apr 23, 2019 23:19
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That said, you use any heavy weapon with 100% of its damage capacity even if you do not meet the strength requirement, it doesn't affect the damage calculation at all. What it does is to slow down your attack rate and give you a defense penalty - you need twice the weapon's weight in STR to use it at full speed, with a reduction proportional to how much of this you're missing. What this means is that careful micromanagement of your attackers can almost negate the downsides completely. Due to the engagement limit that makes all fights 1-on-1 no matter the numbers on each side, you just have to be good at switching them around in order to simply "tag out" characters who are on attack cooldown, which means that the enemy will keep getting hit and your defense-impaired character will be not getting pointlessly hit. It's not something I would would recommend in a fight where you're outnumbered, though.
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Apr 23, 2019 23:21
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Yeah you can do some crazy cheats in combat if you micro hard. Not my cup of tea but it's certainly powerful. Also, one sneaky thing about the weight vs str thing is that people who get wounded in combat will lose str(on chest hits I think?) and can suddenly become too weak for their weapon which can catch you off guard a bit
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Apr 23, 2019 23:24
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Finally figured out walls. Also that upgrading walls and ramps doesnt necessarily mean that all the pathing isnt broken as gently caress afterwards. My gunners were starving to death before I noticed.
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Apr 23, 2019 23:31
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Yeah, that happens. Walls and gates can both change sizes as part of being upgraded, sometimes quite substantially. Regenerating the navmesh every time you make a major change to your outpost is not a bad idea. It's just a simple keypress, after all.
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Apr 24, 2019 00:11
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Wow, I found this Area 51 type place in the Holy Nation and came out of it with a bagful of AI cores, engineering books, and other swag. Some fine pickings in that place.
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Apr 24, 2019 00:17
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Tabletops posted:What weapons are you using there? Toppers are actually decent, though. They have a smaller armor penetration penalty than other katanas, no penalty versus robots, and they're pretty long.
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Apr 24, 2019 00:23
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Professor Cthulhu posted:I got this baka thing mod and the steady the clown one. They are both great. I'm currently working on making steady 1000% better btw: 
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Apr 24, 2019 01:15
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Babe Magnet posted:I'm currently working on making steady 1000% better btw: Hell yeah, clown on dude. Steady straight up feels like one of the crew to the point that I forget he's not even part of the base game sometimes.
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Apr 24, 2019 01:37
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Met King. That was fun. Nobody fell...but I had some heavy damage to repair afterwards. But he's dead now....so yay. edit - and then I got cocky and ran into southern hive and got my poo poo kicked in by the elites there. I did a lot of damage, but had to run away before I could grab the leader. mauman fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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Apr 24, 2019 02:50
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Beep's arm got chopped off in a tax raid. One of my bonedogs grabbed and ate the arm. 
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Apr 24, 2019 09:33
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Synthbuttrange posted:Beep's arm got chopped off in a tax raid. One of my bonedogs grabbed and ate the arm. TIME FOR CYBERBEEP
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Apr 24, 2019 10:35
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Synthbuttrange posted:Beep's arm got chopped off in a tax raid. One of my bonedogs grabbed and ate the arm.
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Apr 24, 2019 17:45
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I got the training mods to train up stats during my downtime. It feels cheesy but its nice to have something productive to do when it is too dangerous to be outside my buildings. What does the Nutrient Tank do? The description says its somewhere to put your guys when they don't have anything to do. Does it just keep them from starving or something?
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Apr 24, 2019 19:30
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Panfilo posted:I got the training mods to train up stats during my downtime. It feels cheesy but its nice to have something productive to do when it is too dangerous to be outside my buildings.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:35
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I think it's this one? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1569705693 if so, nutrient bath puts them in stasis yeah
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Apr 24, 2019 19:38
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Babe Magnet posted:I think it's this one? Thats it, thank you. Hmm, that doesn't sound that useful, especially considering the resources you need to build them.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:52
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You have just watched a moment in the life of Crumble Jon Seriously though drat, what a good recruit. Him and Kang both have great stats for recruits, and Crumblejon is free. I've got a core team of six units with 70 stealth and 40 assassination each. I've had to restart many times now on the no save/load runs, the #1 thing that's been killing me is someone getting stuck on map geometry when I'm focused on a different squad and they get mauled by bandits or robots or something while traveling, so I've really slowed down on the individual unit expeditions. Now that I've got about 50k to make some investments, I'm unsure of what to do next. I'm considering opening up Narko's Trap for some sick loot, but my only concern is that AI cores might propel me into the endgame too early and I'll get bored. The main thing stopping me from doing a world loop to grab all the recruits I can is food, so I think a base is on the horizon very soon either way. Plus, I need a place to build cages to do prisoner recruitment. Bowguns would allow me to hit above my weight class and get some high-level units to really bolster my forces, I think I want to do the ancient labs by actually clearing them out instead of relying on the cheese I did my entire last playthrough of leading all the spiders out of the building in a train
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Apr 25, 2019 09:29
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Where do you find Crumblejon? I'm working on training up a kung fu master with one of my scorchlander recruits. It's neat how they gradually get new moves as they get better. I've also heard a rumor that the stats of animals build up higher if you get them young, but I'm not certain.
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