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Mikey Purp
Sep 30, 2008

I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.
But what does it mean?! Is this somehow related to the shelves of grey thing?

Eifert Posting posted:

When you carry a heavy bolter people don't ask about your constant ducklips.

Lol, yeah...my only tactic to hide those duffus lips was to play up the visor and hopefully draw the viewer's attention there.

Mikey Purp fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Apr 23, 2019

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Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
When you carry a heavy bolter people don't ask about your constant ducklips.

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man
Video ends with "Contrast". the line above the link says "Something big is coming for paint". As I said in the discord, big tins of shade called Contrast paint.

They better do a Baharroth Blue variant otherwise i'm going full Vallejo

(It'll turn out to be an airbrush after all)

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary

Mikey Purp posted:

But what does it mean?! Is this somehow related to the shelves of grey thing?

the guy peachy is talking to was Mr. Grey from the video

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I'm thinking it'll be some kind of primer / wash combo that pre-shades as it primes.

Which seems chemically possible and pretty incredible if true.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
A line of preprainted and assembled miniatures, the grey part comes from the morality of using sweatshop labor to make them.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

moths posted:

I'm thinking it'll be some kind of primer / wash combo that pre-shades as it primes.

Which seems chemically possible and pretty incredible if true.

Pre-shading at the priming phase seems like it assumes a lot of skill on my part to not just paint over all of that at a later stage. I think it's gonna be a dip.

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]
My big takeaway from that video was “Oh, of course, that’s what they’re going to fill the space in the schedule between the Slaanesh models and whatever new thing (Vanguard multipose stuff) they’ll be revealing at Warhammer Fest with! The new painting solution product line, whatever that turns out to be!”

Still guessing it’ll be an airbrush/spray gun; hoping it’ll be an airbrush and a rebranded re-release of the discontinued ForgeWorld paints. Probably wrong.

Some sort of new dual-use primer-shade could be really cool.

Stephenls fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Apr 23, 2019

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl
Who knows about the points costs here, but the new slaanesh prince/herald looks like a solid beater:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/04/23/slaanesh-the-new-datasheets/

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
It’ll be a gigantic vat of nuln oil

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Solemn Sloth posted:

It’ll be a gigantic vat of nuln oil

Gigantic pots of wash would've been great to be honest.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Solemn Sloth posted:

It’ll be a gigantic vat of nuln oil

49.95

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte
The first video talked about shaming you for having lots of grey plastic.

This one discusses the first benefit of the new product, contrast.

The next one will talk about gradients or blends

Then the one after that could be speed or consistency.

So yeah, they're making a series of benefit videos for an airbrush.

Hustlin Floh
Jul 20, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's a 50/50 mix of Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade for ULTIMATE SHADING

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

evol262 posted:

Who knows about the points costs here, but the new slaanesh prince/herald looks like a solid beater:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/04/23/slaanesh-the-new-datasheets/

Those are all very interesting. Points are indeed the question because those things are beefy in combat goddamn

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Yeast posted:

So yeah, they're making a series of benefit videos for an airbrush.

I have little idea what an airbrush is for. It's for making tanks easy to paint with camo and undercoat figures with a colour that dosn't come in a spray can? How can you shade or contrast with it?

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

Comstar posted:

I have little idea what an airbrush is for. It's for making tanks easy to paint with camo and undercoat figures with a colour that dosn't come in a spray can? How can you shade or contrast with it?

My airbrush can spray lines 1mm wide. I do probably 75% of my shading/highlighting with it.

Gunder
May 22, 2003

Booley posted:

My airbrush can spray lines 1mm wide. I do probably 75% of my shading/highlighting with it.

I've never used an airbrush, and I've always wanted to ask: If you can do highlights with an airbrush, how do you know exactly where the nozzle is pointing before you start spraying? Some of the Skitarii I was highlighting yesterday have really small parts on them, and the highlights for those parts are smaller still. So if I'm aiming my airbrush nozzle at the model, how do I know that I won't spray the paint a millimetre or two higher than I want to? Do they come with laser pointers strapped to them?

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

Gunder posted:

I've never used an airbrush, and I've always wanted to ask: If you can do highlights with an airbrush, how do you know exactly where the nozzle is pointing before you start spraying? Some of the Skitarii I was highlighting yesterday have really small parts on them, and the highlights for those parts are smaller still. So if I'm aiming my airbrush nozzle at the model, how do I know that I won't spray the paint a millimetre or two higher than I want to? Do they come with laser pointers strapped to them?

Practice

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

Gunder posted:

I've never used an airbrush, and I've always wanted to ask: If you can do highlights with an airbrush, how do you know exactly where the nozzle is pointing before you start spraying? Some of the Skitarii I was highlighting yesterday have really small parts on them, and the highlights for those parts are smaller still. So if I'm aiming my airbrush nozzle at the model, how do I know that I won't spray the paint a millimetre or two higher than I want to? Do they come with laser pointers strapped to them?

With a double action airbrush you can control how much paint comes out. You start the air flowing by pushing down the trigger, then pull it back to add paint. With practice you can get a lot of control.

You use this to lay down extremely thin translucent layers of paint that you gradually build up - it's sort of like drybrushing. If the paint isn't where you want it to be, move.

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]

Gunder posted:

I've never used an airbrush, and I've always wanted to ask: If you can do highlights with an airbrush, how do you know exactly where the nozzle is pointing before you start spraying? Some of the Skitarii I was highlighting yesterday have really small parts on them, and the highlights for those parts are smaller still. So if I'm aiming my airbrush nozzle at the model, how do I know that I won't spray the paint a millimetre or two higher than I want to? Do they come with laser pointers strapped to them?

Booley posted:

Practice

Indeed; practice. For the first while using an airbrush you won’t know where the nozzle is pointing, and then eventually you’ll get a sense for it.

Fortunately for the mini-painting-with-airbrushes hobby, as primates adapted to hunt by throwing rocks, human can develop pretty decent innate senses of aim.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

Comstar posted:

I have little idea what an airbrush is for. It's for making tanks easy to paint with camo and undercoat figures with a colour that dosn't come in a spray can? How can you shade or contrast with it?

If you rotate the model 90 degrees, you can gently apply a shade tone to the angle facing away from the 'light source' of the model with more gentle gradation than is possible with a paint brush.

Ditto for contrast, being able to take a colour from its darkest point to its brightest in smooth, seamless transitions, creating extreme contrast.



I couldn't have done the glass in this Marauder's turret with a brush



They're also a wonderful way to get gradations down on lots of minis.

Yeast fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Apr 24, 2019

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

I'd take both because I have a problem

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Cessna posted:

With a double action airbrush you can control how much paint comes out. You start the air flowing by pushing down the trigger, then pull it back to add paint. With practice you can get a lot of control.

You use this to lay down extremely thin translucent layers of paint that you gradually build up - it's sort of like drybrushing. If the paint isn't where you want it to be, move.

I find the sweet spot if I'm painting finer lines and lock the trigger in once I feel like it's right. Outside of that I just blast down my first three layers of primer, dark base then the main colour and start brush painting. If I'm doing a character I'll usually paint on my shades and highlights then spend ages making it a uniform gradient with a couple of very thin layers with the brush.

Alokgen
Aug 14, 2005

Are you saying I'm a sinner?

Need some opinions on babbys first Tau list before I start buying stuff.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (T'au Empire) [53 PL, 996pts] ++

+ HQ +

Aun'Shi [3 PL, 60pts]

Cadre Fireblade [3 PL, 52pts]: 2. Through Unity, Devastation, Markerlight, MV7 Marker Drone, Warlord

Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit [8 PL, 162pts]: 4x Fusion blaster, Vectored manoeuvring thrusters

+ Troops +

Strike Team [3 PL, 58pts]: 2x MV7 Marker Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse rifle
. 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [3 PL, 56pts]: MV36 Guardian Drone, MV7 Marker Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse rifle
. 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts]
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse rifle
. 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

+ Elites +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit [14 PL, 280pts]: 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system, Heavy burst cannon, Target lock

+ Fast Attack +

Tactical Drones [2 PL, 40pts]: 4x MV7 Marker Drone

+ Heavy Support +

XV88 Broadside Battlesuits [15 PL, 250pts]: 2x MV4 Shield Drone
. Broadside Shas'ui: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system
. Broadside Shas'vre: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system

++ Total: [53 PL, 996pts] ++

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
If you're expecting the Fire Warriors to be mobile I'd ditch the Markerlights on the Shas'uis. The marker drones with the squads are probably also better served in the drone squad and hanging out near a Broadside ,one of which could take a Drone Controller to make them more accurate, which is cheap enough that the three Markerlights dropped on the Shas'uis will still leave you enough for a Shield Generator on the other Broadside. If you go that route, the Shield Generator should definitely go on the Shas'ui and the Drone Controller on the Shas'vre.

Mef989
Feb 6, 2007




How do people tend to run their techmarines? Do you ever give them the servoharness or conversion beamer, or just bare bones?

Also, any input on the best model? I can't decide between the current 40k finecast, a MkIII/IV in case I ever decide to cross over into 30k, or bashing together an intercessor with a techpriest enginseer to make a primaris techmarine.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Mef989 posted:

How do people tend to run their techmarines? Do you ever give them the servoharness or conversion beamer, or just bare bones?

Also, any input on the best model? I can't decide between the current 40k finecast, a MkIII/IV in case I ever decide to cross over into 30k, or bashing together an intercessor with a techpriest enginseer to make a primaris techmarine.

Finecast is trash garbage and is terrible by default, so that's definitely not the best model.

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
I took an old metal thunderfire gunner and added beefy kataphron arms to the backpack, a power axe and a storm bolter.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!
New Slaneesh stuff looks cool. Beefy, attacky, and fast movement! Neato.


How does command point farming work with stuff that happens before battle?

ex/ There's an ork warlord trait that reads:

quote:

If your Warlord is on the battlefield, roll a dice for each Command Point you spend when using Stratagems. On a 6+ that Command Point is immediately refunded.

Then there's this stratagem:

quote:

1 CP Use this Stratagem before the battle. Select a GOFF BOYZ unit(excluding ’ARD BOYZ)from your army;that unit gains the SKARBOYZ keyword,and the Strength characteristic of models in that unit is changed to 5

I'm assuming "before the battle" here means after deployment but before the Turn1 begins? Because how else could a player designate a specific unit for the strategem upgrade? So assuming the warlord was deployed, the ork player would be allowed to roll for the CP refund... right?

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:



I'm assuming "before the battle" here means after deployment but before the Turn1 begins? Because how else could a player designate a specific unit for the strategem upgrade? So assuming the warlord was deployed, the ork player would be allowed to roll for the CP refund... right?

yep.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
I'm pretty sure it's before deployment, because "before the battle" is the same timing as warlord traits, relics, and psychic powers.

As to how: you point to one of your mobs and day "these guys are going to be S5". It's not like your army is a mass of primordial plastic before they are placed on the table; the unit still exists.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

Strobe posted:

It's not like your army is a mass of primordial plastic

but enough about Finecast

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

New Slaneesh stuff looks cool. Beefy, attacky, and fast movement! Neato.


How does command point farming work with stuff that happens before battle?

ex/ There's an ork warlord trait that reads:


Then there's this stratagem:


I'm assuming "before the battle" here means after deployment but before the Turn1 begins? Because how else could a player designate a specific unit for the strategem upgrade? So assuming the warlord was deployed, the ork player would be allowed to roll for the CP refund... right?

GW have annoyingly been not very explicit about how this works, but the way most people play it is:

"When mustering your army" - must be declared on your list. This includes stuff like Death Visions of Sanguinius, and also specialist detachments like the Vigilus ones.
"Before the battle" - you make the choice before the game technically begins. Whether this has to be on your list or not is an open question, but ITC treats it as being changeable game to game - this is stuff like WL traits, psychic powers, extra relics, etc.
"During deployment" - during deployment phase.
"At the start of the first battle round, before the first turn begins" - poo poo like Stygies VIII or Alpha Legion scout moves, which happen once the game is underway but before either player has an actual turn.

You would only get to roll for the latter two situations, so Ard Boyz wouldn't be rollable but something like Victor of the Blood Games is.

Hellburger99
Jan 24, 2006

"I don't like that mooch...
or her pooch!
"
A friend and I entered a painting contest at our local FLGS with a couple of those Space Marine Hero blind boxes. One thing led to another and I ended up splitting a box of Know No Fear with her. She took the Death Guard and I got the primaris marines. I'm not looking to go full ham yet and I want to put together a 500 pt list to play around with until I get a handle on the rules. Also I'm going to paint them up as Salamanders because I dig the color scheme. Any advice on getting chapter markings for my space barbies besides old transfers off of ebay? Also any general advice on things to fill out a 500pt list beyond what's included in Know No Fear? I'm trying to swing towards stuff that will be fun to paint/display because even if the game doesn't click with me, I still like painting the stuff.

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]

Hellburger99 posted:

A friend and I entered a painting contest at our local FLGS with a couple of those Space Marine Hero blind boxes. One thing led to another and I ended up splitting a box of Know No Fear with her. She took the Death Guard and I got the primaris marines. I'm not looking to go full ham yet and I want to put together a 500 pt list to play around with until I get a handle on the rules. Also I'm going to paint them up as Salamanders because I dig the color scheme. Any advice on getting chapter markings for my space barbies besides old transfers off of ebay? Also any general advice on things to fill out a 500pt list beyond what's included in Know No Fear? I'm trying to swing towards stuff that will be fun to paint/display because even if the game doesn't click with me, I still like painting the stuff.

I can't think of any source for Salamander transfers beyond the Forgeworld Horus Heresy Salamander Transfer Sheet, which... well, it's not ebay.

GuardianOfAsgaard
Feb 1, 2012

Their steel shines red
With enemy blood
It sings of victory
Granted by the Gods

Stephenls posted:

I can't think of any source for Salamander transfers beyond the Forgeworld Horus Heresy Salamander Transfer Sheet, which... well, it's not ebay.

The old SM transfer sheet (from before they changed to Ultramarines only) has Salamanders icons on it. Plenty on eBay.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Have a printer? https://www.amazon.com/Kodiak-Suppl...8-1-spons&psc=1

And just searching the internet for whichever chapter icons you want should cover you. You could probably find ready made templates instead of trial and error’ing the right size.

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

GuardianOfAsgaard posted:

The old SM transfer sheet (from before they changed to Ultramarines only) has Salamanders icons on it. Plenty on eBay.

gently caress this btw. How hard could it be to just mix it up once in a while? Throw in a sheet with some extra transfers from the other popular chapters, shoot.

I'm up to my eyeballs in horseshoe transfers

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TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

TheBigAristotle posted:

gently caress this btw. How hard could it be to just mix it up once in a while? Throw in a sheet with some extra transfers from the other popular chapters, shoot.

I'm up to my eyeballs in horseshoe transfers

you in the US? I'm pretty sure I have assloads of old transfer sheets around I can send you, if I didn't throw them away

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