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Are we taking bets on how many episodes the Russian Revolution is gonna last? I'm guessing 45
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Mike was saying that he was blocking out the rest of the year for the Russian Revolution. So who knows.
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Apr 24, 2019 00:14
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GoingPostal posted:Mike was saying that he was blocking out the rest of the year for the Russian Revolution. So who knows. Knowing Mike Duncan's past success rate with this kind of thing, it's going to take him until 2024
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Apr 24, 2019 01:45
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He said he wants to do Iran last, but I wonder what he'll do after Russia? Cuba has to be on the list surely.
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Apr 24, 2019 04:08
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Unfortunately I think he's skipping China.
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Apr 24, 2019 04:27
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Rodyle posted:He said he wants to do Iran last, but I wonder what he'll do after Russia? Cuba has to be on the list surely. Cuba's on the list, he mentions it in the 250 episode QA iirc.
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Apr 24, 2019 04:29
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Mantis42 posted:Unfortunately I think he's skipping China. This is the most disappointing decision hes made regarding the podcast
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Apr 24, 2019 05:02
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AnEdgelord posted:This is the most disappointing decision hes made regarding the podcast No kidding. Someone prove this to me, I was really looking forward to China.
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Apr 24, 2019 05:33
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I recall him saying that he doesn't plan to do any revolutions that are far from the east / Asian, or that he doesn't plan to do non-western revolutions, but idk. Seems like he's doing whatever fits into his wheelhouse, or whatever revolutions that are deemed important to western history.
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Apr 24, 2019 06:52
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Didnt he say he was doing the Iranian revolution?
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Apr 24, 2019 12:09
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I'm pretty sure he said he just doesn't know enough about Chinese history to do it justice, and there's too much there to fake it by cramming.
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Apr 24, 2019 13:50
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Inward empire - The Diem experiment part one just released clocking in at an hour and a half. https://inwardempirepodcast.podomatic.com
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Apr 24, 2019 17:28
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Mantis42 posted:Unfortunately I think he's skipping China. That's real disappointing. But I can understand since China goes on for half a century, which makes even the seemingly endless Mexican revolution seem short.
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Apr 24, 2019 18:08
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Viktor posted:Inward empire - The Diem experiment part one just released clocking in at an hour and a half. Oooh nice
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Apr 24, 2019 20:12
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Viktor posted:Inward empire - The Diem experiment part one just released clocking in at an hour and a half. 
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Apr 24, 2019 20:21
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golden bubble posted:That's real disappointing. But I can understand since China goes on for half a century, which makes even the seemingly endless Mexican revolution seem short. Well, to understand the Communist Revolution in China you must first understand the abortive liberal revolution and the fall of the Qing Dynasty in the early 20th century. Of course, Japan plays a pretty central role in this narrative as their invasion during the 1930s is one of the biggest events during this whole story, and to understand that you must go back to the first Sino-Japanese War in the 1890s. Of course, along the way you'll probably cover the Boxer Rebellion and might as well give a background to what all these foreigners are doing in China anyways, so let's go back to the Opium Wars. You don't need to spend a lot of time on those, but they're still important context and uh, oh wait I forgot that during the 2nd Opium War China was already undergoing the Taiping Rebellion. poo poo, maybe that should be it's own series... Mantis42 fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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Apr 24, 2019 22:38
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The Taiping Rebellion is much more fun than the CCP anyway.
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Apr 25, 2019 02:05
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Arrhythmia posted:Knowing Mike Duncan's past success rate with this kind of thing, it's going to take him until 2024 It would be interesting to do the Russian Revolution in real-time. This week: the Tsar vacillates, Gorky writes a poem, while Lenin catches a train.
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Apr 25, 2019 11:00
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Mantis42 posted:Well, to understand the Communist Revolution in China you must first understand the abortive liberal revolution and the fall of the Qing Dynasty in the early 20th century. Of course, Japan plays a pretty central role in this narrative as their invasion during the 1930s is one of the biggest events during this whole story, and to understand that you must go back to the first Sino-Japanese War in the 1890s. Of course, along the way you'll probably cover the Boxer Rebellion and might as well give a background to what all these foreigners are doing in China anyways, so let's go back to the Opium Wars. You don't need to spend a lot of time on those, but they're still important context and uh, oh wait I forgot that during the 2nd Opium War China was already undergoing the Taiping Rebellion. poo poo, maybe that should be it's own series... I can sympathize. A lot of history is like that where you try to unravel an event and it just keeps going back and back and back. I once tried reading up on the Irish troubles. Pre-reading spawned even more pre-reading until I hit the 1700s and gave up.
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Apr 25, 2019 11:05
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nonathlon posted:It would be interesting to do the Russian Revolution in real-time. https://twitter.com/JoeStalin_1917/status/947424846715142144
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Apr 25, 2019 12:21
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nonathlon posted:I can sympathize. A lot of history is like that where you try to unravel an event and it just keeps going back and back and back. I once tried reading up on the Irish troubles. Pre-reading spawned even more pre-reading until I hit the 1700s and gave up. aka The Dan Carlin Effect
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Apr 25, 2019 20:53
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webmeister posted:aka The Dan Carlin Effect I just wanted to understand the underlying causes of Piłsudski's rise to power and six hours later I'd checked four Hulk Hogan biographies out from the library.
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Apr 25, 2019 23:00
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Grand Fromage posted:The Taiping Rebellion is much more fun than the CCP anyway. The taiping rebellion Is a strong contender for one of the craziest things to ever happen anywhere.
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Apr 25, 2019 23:10
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When I hear "The Chinese Revolution", I think of 1911 before I think of 1949.
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Apr 26, 2019 12:52
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nonathlon posted:I once tried reading up on the Irish troubles. Pre-reading spawned even more pre-reading until I hit the 1700s and gave up. 800 years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx3iB68EKUo The Lions led by Donkeys podcast are doing the Easter Rising at the moment and had the same problem with trying to pick a point in history to actually start on.
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Apr 26, 2019 17:35
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echomadman posted:800 years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx3iB68EKUo yeah. they are a great podcast and everyone should listen to them. picking a start date with events in history is hard as gently caress and really depends on the audience you are talking too. like take World war 1 and its origins. the safest option is going back 20 years before the war. but you could go back 100 at least. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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Apr 26, 2019 19:05
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. they are a great podcast and everyone should listen to them. picking a start date with events in history is hard as gently caress and really depends on the audience you are talking too. like take World war 1 and its origins. the safest option is going back 20 years before the war. but you could go back 100 at least. poo poo, if you want to be thorough you have to go all the way back to Hugh O'Neill... or further back to Silken Thomas in the early 1600s... or, gently caress, the Battle of Callann in 1261... If anyone's looking for a decent overview of The Whole drat Thing With Ireland, I quite enjoyed this book, which is very much in the "okay these guys were fighting, let's learn about them, they blew it, then things were pretty quiet for a hundred years or so until these other guys showed up, let's learn about them, then..." vein. I haven't heard anything bad about Terry Golway's scholarship, either. It's a book and not a podcast, but hey, c'est la vie.
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Apr 26, 2019 22:28
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If you wish to make a history podcast from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Definitely checking out Lions led by Donkeys, never heard of the Easter Rising.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:If anyone's looking for a decent overview of The Whole drat Thing With Ireland, I quite enjoyed this book, which is very much in the "okay these guys were fighting, let's learn about them, they blew it, then things were pretty quiet for a hundred years or so until these other guys showed up, let's learn about them, then..." vein. I haven't heard anything bad about Terry Golway's scholarship, either. It's a book and not a podcast, but hey, c'est la vie. Appreciated - I'll chase that book up. (And, of course, any period of history depends on the periods before it. But Irish history is one of those hairballs where it's so drat difficult to pick a point and say "we're starting here".)
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Apr 29, 2019 10:39
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I emailed Mike Duncan asking for a series on the fall of South African apartheid (and related conflicts) but no response. 
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Apr 29, 2019 10:51
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Jon Ronson's The Butterfly Effect morphed into The Last Days of August, concerning the (apparent) suicide of porn star August Ames. It certainly kept me hooked and it's punchy (there's only 7 medium length episodes), but left me with mixed feelings. The whole thing is fairly sad, and almost everyone interviewed is messed up and/or a massive liar. Multiple interviewees ask Ronson why he's so interested in the story and while they're mostly trying to push him off the case, it's still a good question. It feels a little like a grubby shock expose. However, fair dues to Ronson, early on he tells you that it's not a murder mystery and avoids going the true crime way.
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nonathlon posted:Jon Ronson's The Butterfly Effect morphed into The Last Days of August, concerning the (apparent) suicide of porn star August Ames. It certainly kept me hooked and it's punchy (there's only 7 medium length episodes), but left me with mixed feelings. The whole thing is fairly sad, and almost everyone interviewed is messed up and/or a massive liar. Multiple interviewees ask Ronson why he's so interested in the story and while they're mostly trying to push him off the case, it's still a good question. It feels a little like a grubby shock expose. However, fair dues to Ronson, early on he tells you that it's not a murder mystery and avoids going the true crime way. Does it come up with anything interesting? There were quite a few suicides of porn actresses at that time if i recall correctly. Also she was dating that goon that did the Ask/Tell threads about being a porn director.
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kanonvandekempen posted:Does it come up with anything interesting? There were quite a few suicides of porn actresses at that time if i recall correctly. More than dating, they were married.
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May 6, 2019 13:14
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Has Mike mentioned what he has planned after Russia? Seems unlikely, but I'd love to get a series on the Spanish Revolution of 1936.
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May 6, 2019 17:04
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kanonvandekempen posted:Does it come up with anything interesting? There were quite a few suicides of porn actresses at that time if i recall correctly. Did they unveil any crime or factor linking the deaths: In short, no. * As you point out, there were a few other deaths. Several people challenge Ronson as to why he's not looking at those. * In fact, there's a lot of people that seem incredibly invested in getting him to go away and stop asking questions. Which seems like it should lead to a cover-up or conspiracy but ... * More mundanely, the people they talk to are messed up, liars, afraid for their livelihoods, don't want to anger important colleagues, etc. The deceased stars husband is a prime example. * As far as anyone can tell, the suicide is a suicide.
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May 6, 2019 19:39
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nonathlon posted:Did they unveil any crime or factor linking the deaths: Thanks, sounds like I can skip it.
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May 7, 2019 10:59
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kanonvandekempen posted:Thanks, sounds like I can skip it. I think so. It's interesting (I listened to the last three episodes in a row) but in a sense reveals or educates you as to nothing, like a true crime mystery that in the end concludes everything is as it appears. Which leaves it as some sort of prurient soap opera.
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May 7, 2019 11:40
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Or, you know, an exploitation of a suicide.
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May 7, 2019 11:56
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Does the age of napoleon guy ever stop scaring the gently caress out of you with surprise really loud ads mid episode
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Does the age of napoleon guy ever stop scaring the gently caress out of you with surprise really loud ads mid episode "Having now more than proved his skill as a a commander, it was becoming apparent even to Napoleon's enemies that his rising star wa TECHNOLOGY TRUTHS - BROUGHT TO YOU BY GEICO!"
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