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Honestly I'm just hoping for an Allied carrier sortie, or something more than an endless trickle of PT boats into the IJN maw.
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If you haven't lost your entire force of carriers yet you haven't been aggressive enough.
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I think it's definitely fair to end early if nothing particularly interesting happens, it's becoming very clear where the game's just broken instead of fun and there's no real point in dragging it out
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Apr 24, 2019 16:02
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I for one am still enjoying the LP. This has basically gone as well as it could for Japan, and it's nice to see an LP not be so involved for once.
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I think the game should continue until it ends though score or hitting the time limit. Having followed your playthroughs of every game in this series from the first turn of the Allied thread it feels better to see this one fully completed the way that the others were. At the very least it would end whatever desire I have to see this game fully explored, which would othwersie linger until it's fully finished elsewhere. I'm still enjoying the LP though, I haven't gotten bored of it yet. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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Apr 24, 2019 16:04
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Maybe if the Allies AI continues to just do nothing forever and you don’t want to just throw the game by making a suicide run with the carriers (and, you know, you actually want to keep playing the game and posting about it) just abandon the day by day premise.
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It'd just be 600 more turns of air battles over Rabaul and the occasional "the raiders/carriers caught another convoy", I really don't see the appeal to reading that (much less making Grey play and write that).
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Load up the allied side and do an audit of what they have where for the thread. I'm interested if there's a full carrier battle group disbanded in Panama or if they've actually been moving forces west but are unable to put together an actual invasion.
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Apr 24, 2019 16:10
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I was waiting around for the Soviets to activate. They could at least make things interesting.
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Imaginary Baron posted:I was waiting around for the Soviets to activate. They could at least make things interesting.  It would be interesting to at least get to see what happens when the Soviets activate. I’m sure we will get the point quickly but a month or so of their huge blitz could be fun to play out.
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Grey Hunter posted:I'm actually giving serious thought to calling this on August 15th - the AI is deadlocked, and unless they pull something out of the hat then its just going to be another year of nothing - the combat engine won't let me attack, and the AI won't come for me. I sounded far more bored than I actually feel with the LP. I'm still checking the thread at least every day, so it's not to the point where I've stopped reading. I do wonder how entertaining it can be for you to play the game though. If RtW2 hadn't been delayed, I'd say drop this immediately and play a better naval sim.
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Apr 24, 2019 16:33
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The game? lovely and boring beyond just how broken and groggy it is. The thread/watching progress? I read every update and enjoy the commentary. Do as you will grey, but I will be sad if you end it without at least some mad charge of the carrier brigades at the end 
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DesperateDan posted:The game? lovely and boring beyond just how broken and groggy it is. Same! I enjoy checking in, seeing the progress, and hoping something amazing happens. I'd hate to see you continue for 2 years just to find out the game is bugged out and nothing will ever happen.
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Apr 24, 2019 16:46
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Day by day is cool but yeah most of these days are super boring dogfights. Maybe play through until the start of August as fast as you can, give us a highlight post if anything cool happens, otherwise just tell us "then there was a month where nothing happened". Then I'd like to see the Soviets invade because everybody always talks about that but these LPs never seem to actually make it all the way until that happens.
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I am following this daily as well. It is nice seeing thing happen day by day, and seeing how much Japan is holding on. But, I can see that this is causing a burnout to Grey. Maybe if nothing interesting happens, he can up the ante, and start playing few days at a time from historical surrender date, ie. 15th of August.
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Imaginary Baron posted:I was waiting around for the Soviets to activate. They could at least make things interesting. Ditto. Also I'd like to see what happens with the India invasion. I think a good balance would be to do as suggested earlier and maybe move from "day by day" to something like "week by week" so you can focus on the exciting bits.
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I’m waiting for the soviets. I hope that you’ll keep going to the end.
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Call it a win now but plan and carry out one last full carrier attack before ending the game. Pearl Harbor 2: Pearl Harder
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Yeah I don't think I'd blame you for wanting to pack it in early Grey, though I agree with the others that it would be fun to see what the Soviets do. Could just strip back the garrison a little and trigger that early though. Also if you are going to call it early, you should probably include an epilogue of you sailing the entire fleet into Pearl or San Diego or something.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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I also want to see what the Indian invasion does, but it's my last hope beyond a suicide run for something interesting happening. If the Soviets fail to do anything interesting I may well call it.
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If it helps, I'd be fine with you skipping a bunch of screenshots of the same battles over the same cities and just telling us in a few words what happened that day. Could mean lower-effort updates. Although I suppose the task of actually playing the turns is still just as involved, so that may not be much relief. Ultimately, an LP ought to be fun for the LPer as well as the audience, and when it stops doing that and just becomes an unpleasant chore, you don't owe us anything and should do whatever makes you happiest. I totally understand the drive to get some closure and complete a project, and that can be its own satisfaction too, so pushing through to some kind of end might be what you want; but the august 15 deadline isn't a bad idea either, basically setting a goal of "let's accomplish maximum of what we can, up to and including throwing away japan's remaining offensive forces in a final attempt to break the stalemate" as an intentional ending of the LP. Makes sense to me.
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I don’t even think he needs to pull the garrison... I believe Japan can attack Russia at any time and start the war with them. If you decide on a suicide run / Pearl Harbor 2.0; throw in a surprise attack on Vladivostok and see how things go
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22 April 1945, a day lost to history Minesweeper USS Swallow gets rekt by a kamikaze hit off Okinawa. 23 April 1945 U-boats score their final success against an American warship when U-546 puts a homing torpedo into USS Frederick C. Davis. The destroyer escort broke in half and sank quickly. American MTBs sink the German corvette Uj-2222 (ex-Italian Tuffetto) in the Gulf of Genoa. Grey Hunter posted:I'm actually giving serious thought to calling this on August 15th - the AI is deadlocked, and unless they pull something out of the hat then its just going to be another year of nothing - the combat engine won't let me attack, and the AI won't come for me. My last update is 23 August. I generally agree with Leperflesh—if you still have any interest in playing, I'd be happy with text summary updates in place of struggling to come up with good screenshots for everything; if not, I think wrapping at an appropriate point and moving on to greener pastures is perfectly reasonable.
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Before you pull the plug, form up the fleet and send it to Pearl Harbor
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Out of curiosity, how long would it take to get your deathstack from India to the Russian border, and would it help the outcome there at all?
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They just got there and now you want them to turn around!?
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What if it turns out the AI kept all their carriers at Pearl or San Diego? I know they did in the Marianas scenario when I played. Not exactly rquivalent I know but it's not completely unreasonable.
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Every flattop in the combined Allied navies are all tied up edge to edge in San Diego having a massive party
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Grey sank all their landing craft so they’re building a steel bridge to Tokyo, one CV at a Time.
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Cantorsdust posted:Out of curiosity, how long would it take to get your deathstack from India to the Russian border, and would it help the outcome there at all? Watch this movie in reverse - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCnjLdfXWw (The Way Back)
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For my money go to a week-by-week or event-per-week format and do some ridiculous poo poo. Withdraw the fleet from Rabaul and support the Army going into India with a full on invasion of Calcutta by sea. That sort of thing. The Brits should take until about August to mop that up and then we can watch Zhukov roll through Manchuria in a week and call it.
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Please send every ship and troop transport you have to invade pearl before you stop
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If you do call it I'd be interested in seeing you load it from the Allied perspective just to see where the hell those flattops are.
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Eh, I'd say perhaps don't fully stop it. Just playing it out quicker for the remainder and summing up the highlights might be more fun.
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Do whatever you need to do to keep it fun, be that continuing, making less frequent/simpler updates, doing something crazy, or stopping altogether.
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What a different situation from the IRL timeline. saintonan posted:If you do call it I'd be interested in seeing you load it from the Allied perspective just to see where the hell those flattops are. Just to see the allied status. Or send a banzai charge to Hawaii
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Pro challenge: switch to the allies on June 1 and see if you can eke out a marginal victory somehow.
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Do nothing, just hit end turn and see how long the end takes.
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I check the thread every day. I'd like you to keep playing past the Russian activation, to see what happens. Then, when you're ready, send the entire fleet to Pearl Harbour. Go for the death ride and see if you can get Capital Ships Main Gun Armament landing on Battleship row.
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I want to see what happens with the India invasion
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