Kurieg posted:

Jay is apparently the result of a progenitor mage with a literal basement full of Fera in bacta tanks. And he managed to genetically engineer a garou-bastet hybrid. While fighting a bane in his (wolf)crinos form he got so angry he somehow also went bastet-crinos on top of it? He's still keeping the truth of what he is hidden from his pack so there hasn't been a real explanation.

Kurieg posted:

Jay is apparently the result of a progenitor mage with a literal basement full of Fera in bacta tanks. And he managed to genetically engineer a garou-bastet hybrid. While fighting a bane in his (wolf)crinos form he got so angry he somehow also went bastet-crinos on top of it? He's still keeping the truth of what he is hidden from his pack so there hasn't been a real explanation.

Mors Rattus posted:

share the physical description

quote:

Rage flooded through Jay, reddening his vision.
He needed strength to defeat this thing that was threatening his companions. Help me! His mind howled. Help me kill my enemies! As if in answer to his call, new power suddenly filled him, replacing thought and reason . Jay groaned as his body shuddered, bones and muscle gaining bulk, fangs lengthening, thickening ...
Jay's brain whirled, trying to understand the changes in his body. but his new strength overpowered him, and his struggling reason disappeared into the primordial darkness of his subconscious.
The old Jay was gone. The new Jay flung himself at the Bane, long, saberlike teeth slavering as they prepared to dig into the enemy's throat.

Heidel, just struggling back to his feet, saw the change. He watched as the oddly altered Garou leaped onto the Bane, its weight driving the monster away from the bleeding form of one of those who had fallen, fangs and claws ripping into membranous tissue.
The hulking Garou's hind claws were locked into the Bane's stomach, holding his body in place while steely front claws and foot-long fangs rent everything before him.

Rand Brittain posted:

Please don't encourage the writers to go on about how buff their cat-wolf-man uniquely special protagonist is. This will lead only to tears.

Mors Rattus posted:

you don't understand, I need this

Kurieg posted:

He also immediately fell in love with literally the first kinfolk woman he saw, and she with him. So much so she's basically pledging her life to him after knowing him for about 3 days, of which they were only conscious and in each other's presence for about 3 hours.

Mors Rattus posted:

share the physical description

Dammit Who? posted:

Mors Rattus posted:

lazy, where is my catwolf monstrosity, writer

quote:

Jay growled at Kevin, the sound growing lower,
more powerful.
Then Jay was gone, swallowed by his rage. In his
place stood a twelve-foot-long, tawny cat, saberteeth
already thrusting toward Kevin's throat.
Dr. Caldwell laughed with delight when Jay
shifted into his cat form. "Wonderful!" He moved
as close to the battle as possible, studying the tawny
figure." A Smilodon! That's incredible!"
The mage turned and pulled open a chest of
equipment leaning against one of the containers.
"Hold him, Kevin, while I get a camera!" There was
a loud crunch, then the sound of something hitting
the floor.
"Don't hurt him, Kevin!" The scientist turned,
touching controls on a mult i-function video
camera. "I want to study him!"
There was a roar of fury. "Oh my!" Caldwell
found himself staring into the green eyes of the
great cat, crouched on top of the still-twitching
remains of Kevin.
"Oh my," the mage said again, taking a slow step
backward.
The beast that had been Jay roared again, louder
this time, then moved toward the mage, stubby tail
twitching, blood dripping off razor-sharp teeth .

Kurieg posted:

Gaian Garou, non-gaian Garou, black spiral dancers

quote:

"All right," the Colonel relented. "I'll tell you."
He turned to Aaron. "What's the biggest problem
in Garou society today?"
The Silver Fang shrugged. "Inbreeding. With the
wild lands disappearing-and the lupus, like Eater
here, going with them-we're losing our balance."
"Exactly," the Colonel agreed. "We're losin' the
fight against civilization, stagnatin' in our little
enclaves."
"What does that have to do with your Progenitor
friend?"
Sweet smiled. "Dr. Caldwell was workin' on a
way to solve the stagnation problem." He leaned
forward. "He has managed to isolate the Garou
gene, then implant it in a fertilized ovum."
"That means ... "
"New blood. Garou that are strong, focused."
Sweet locked eyes with Eater-of-Bears. "Garou like
Jay."
"You mean ... "
"Yes," the Colonel nodded. "Jay is the result of
one of Caldwell's experiments."
"I cannot believe that." Eater-of-Bears turned
away, shaken. "Jay No-Name is Garou, not some
Wyrm-spawned experiment!"

Kurieg posted:

So I picked up Call to Battle: The Saga of Jay No-Name on a dare. Jay jut got so angry he went double-crinos.

He also immediately fell in love with literally the first kinfolk woman he saw, and she with him. So much so she's basically pledging her life to him after knowing him for about 3 days, of which they were only conscious and in each other's presence for about 3 hours.

Ironslave posted:

I've longed for a book barn reading of this for ages.

Kurieg posted:

I'm tempted to toss something in Fatal and Friends.

Kurieg posted:

A Shadow Lord who's thrown in his clout with the progenitor and is raising lost cubs as his own personal strike team. Hoping to use the progenitor's research to shore up the Garou's flagging numbers.

At least I'm pretty sure he's a shadow lord. The impossibly articulate Red Talon automatically assumes he's a Shadow Lord and he doesn't correct her.

Also at the Silver Fang being the one flippantly tossing out Inbreeding as the garou nation's biggest problem.

Nessus posted:

To be fair to the Talon, I had the impression that a Talon talking in wolf-talk or the Garou language would be perfectly articulate, if maybe not prone to being abstract. They're not stupid, they're just not human.

quote:

"Pentex is what the humans call a conglomorate." Eater-of-Bears stumbled over the pronunciation. "They control a lot of other companies-including the sugar factories that are destroying the Everglades."

Loomer posted:

I might even join you with a reread of As One Dead, the single worst oWoD story I have ever read (at least until Swedracula's incoherent Full rear end Rape Stiffness). And as I've read all of them... That's saying something.

Jhet posted:

Let's take another example, because Chicago has been used a lot. Most people who live here would take a look at most of the WoD/ChonD stuff with Chicago in it and go... that doesn't seem like Chicago. Because it's a fictionalized imagining of it. I haven't read the Odense stuff, and probably never will unless someone buys it for me (I don't need a book for crossover stuff, ChronD's toolbox works well enough without it).

But the point is valid for most any of the settings. They're not going to really feel like where-ever it is, and that's kind of a blessing. No one would want a Chicago that is largely okay for a large city, excepting for some areas with more flashpoint violence. It's too boring for a world of darkness, and it's much more fun to have ties to gangsters from the 20s and ties to organized crime (honestly, I only read half of the VtR stuff from the book), and slimy politicians and police and gang violence. But when you start to get closer to real world Chicago it just starts to get a little too depressing to play a game about darkness in, because it's not play-horror, just the real sort of horrible.

So I hope they keep making terrible generalizations about Chicago and all the other real-cities as dark settings. Really, I hope they ham it up a bit. Make it so people can have fun playing a horror game about ghosts and vampires and wizards, etc...

I Am Just a Box posted:

Which story/book was the one that had Vampire Jesus, as in actual Yeshua the Nazarene? Was that one entertainingly bad or, aside from that detail, just bad?

Mors Rattus posted:

wait

it talks

about stats

it talks about stats

Loomer posted:

Yeah, when it talks about Generation at one point it literally talks about it as a stat - something along the lines of 'Generation 7 is stronger than Generation 9, so Bianca ignored it!' No attempt to dress it as anything else, just straight up as a stat. IIRC it's even spelled out as 'generation seven' rather than 'seventh generation'.

Loomer posted:

They put a methuselah's lair under loving Disneyland!

Slimnoid posted:

This loving owns though.

Loomer posted:

Yeah, that's why the Jyhad novels are the kings of trashy but fun. Mongol biker vampire slaughtering his way through Tampa's undead as part of a Methuselah's feud, culminating in a battle between a Singing Toreador who inspired the legend of Melpomene and an ancient Ventrue who manipulated Walt Disney into building him a fortress in the form of the Magic Kingdom? Amazing. It's so over the top that you can't help but laugh, and it's clearly deliberate. RAGE had a similar deal with its novels, including the one where a pack of young stargazers no joke save the town from the Wyrm by winning the big game!

Loomer posted:

Yeah, that's why the Jyhad novels are the kings of trashy but fun. Mongol biker vampire slaughtering his way through Tampa's undead as part of a Methuselah's feud, culminating in a battle between a Singing Toreador who inspired the legend of Melpomene and an ancient Ventrue who manipulated Walt Disney into building him a fortress in the form of the Magic Kingdom? Amazing. It's so over the top that you can't help but laugh, and it's clearly deliberate. RAGE had a similar deal with its novels, including the one where a pack of young stargazers no joke save the town from the Wyrm by winning the big game!

Dawgstar posted:

I forgot there were even RAGE novels.

Kurieg posted:

Call to Battle is a RAGE novel, and the first book in a trilogy.
there were no other books in the trilogy. It ends rather sloppily on a cliffhanger too

xanthan posted:

What are the various Jyhad books? Because this all sounds loving magical and I need to have read it yesterday. Heck, while we're on the topic what other WoD or CoD books are a fun read?