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Rozzbot
Nov 4, 2009

Pork, lamb, chicken and ham
Every surface in any given public space is l covered in poop and jizz because nobody washes their hands

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Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

smart home stuff is so dumb. never gonna do that poo poo

past a certain point you won't have a choice

like, you can't even buy a TV that isn't crammed full of useless "smart" features anymore. Wi-Fi chips are dirt cheap nowadays, and once a company has written smart software for one TV it's real easy to adapt it for all their other TV models, so there's not much reason for them not to do it

Rascar Capac
Aug 31, 2016

Surprisingly nice, for an evil Inca mummy.

qkkl posted:

i use toilet paper to wife my face after cotton balls.

These Pornhub titles are running amock.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

https://twitter.com/patrickfitzg_o/status/1121327716010041345

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Rozzbot posted:

Every surface in any given public space is l covered in poop and jizz because nobody washes their hands

a lot of people probably think they wash their hands but they really don't

I'm talking about you, all of you who put soap on your dry hands and then immediately rinse it off without lathering and then rub water around for a few seconds

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

BattleMaster posted:

a lot of people probably think they wash their hands but they really don't

I'm talking about you, all of you who put soap on your dry hands and then immediately rinse it off without lathering and then rub water around for a few seconds

Who the gently caress does that?

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Elman posted:

Who the gently caress does that?

a lot of people, given that there are instructions on how to wash your hands properly in the public health campaigns I've seen every flu season.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015



Maybe I'm dumb as bricks but why would a camera emit sounds?

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Negrostrike posted:

Maybe I'm dumb as bricks but why would a camera emit sounds?

so if you see your child freaking out on camera, you can talk to them without having to walk all the way to their room

or so you can ask the guy knocking on your front door why he's there, without having to open it

or other various borderline-sociopathic things along those lines

most consumer-use internet cameras these days have intercom functionality so that whoever is monitoring them can talk to whoever the camera is watching

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Main Paineframe posted:

so if you see your child freaking out on camera, you can talk to them without having to walk all the way to their room

or so you can ask the guy knocking on your front door why he's there, without having to open it

or other various borderline-sociopathic things along those lines

most consumer-use internet cameras these days have intercom functionality so that whoever is monitoring them can talk to whoever the camera is watching

you can also talk to your pet while youre at work :3 . then buy some double sided tape and a wifi controlled RC car, stick the nanny cam to the roof and you can just harass your animals all day

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I want to bring something up - Anderson Cooper had this segment on his show years ago and it was staged (the woman is an actress):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdI83c33_x0

So the "YOUR CHILD'S BEDROOM IS BEING HACKED" thing was definitely bullshit being pushed a few years ago, and I'm not sure if technology has caught up to the point where it's now an actuality, or if they're just doing fear-mongering with that Nest story again

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe

Negrostrike posted:

Maybe I'm dumb as bricks but why would a camera emit sounds?

It's a 2 way radio function. I only used it once because my wife said it freaked out my 1 year old kid.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

EugeneJ posted:

I want to bring something up - Anderson Cooper had this segment on his show years ago and it was staged (the woman is an actress):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdI83c33_x0

So the "YOUR CHILD'S BEDROOM IS BEING HACKED" thing was definitely bullshit being pushed a few years ago, and I'm not sure if technology has caught up to the point where it's now an actuality, or if they're just doing fear-mongering with that Nest story again

well hopefully companies like NEST and the poo poo they sell at best buy comes pre-secured with a unique password printed on a card or something, but iirc a lot of these "nanny cam" systems just come from amazon/banggood/aliexpress and act like a wireless access point with a single default password for all their devices. So if you're enterprising enough you can hang outside a house and just see who has the lovely amazon nannycam SSIDs pop up on your phone, look up the default passwords for those devices and watch whats going on inside the house.

Its not hacking, its just abusing default passwords

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Shear Modulus posted:

in the past five years or so theyve slapped a wifi connection into absolutely everything and its all set up with security credentials of LOGIN: admin PASSWORD: admin and strangely enough the marketing materials never mention that you now need to set up a firewall for your baby monitor. the user agreements sure are ironclad in that the company is in no way responsible for any loss or exfiltration of data
This is true of a lot more than consumer devices. Cameras, license plate readers, traffic signal controllers, power infrastructure, industrial controls of all types, a lot of it is hard coded with default passwords.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

bring back old gbs posted:

well hopefully companies like NEST and the poo poo they sell at best buy comes pre-secured with a unique password printed on a card or something, but iirc a lot of these "nanny cam" systems just come from amazon/banggood/aliexpress and act like a wireless access point with a single default password for all their devices. So if you're enterprising enough you can hang outside a house and just see who has the lovely amazon nannycam SSIDs pop up on your phone, look up the default passwords for those devices and watch whats going on inside the house.

Its not hacking, its just abusing default passwords

It's hacking, considering every bit of famous hacking basically amounted to a hostile actor asking for the password and being given it by morons

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

EugeneJ posted:

I want to bring something up - Anderson Cooper had this segment on his show years ago and it was staged (the woman is an actress):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdI83c33_x0

So the "YOUR CHILD'S BEDROOM IS BEING HACKED" thing was definitely bullshit being pushed a few years ago, and I'm not sure if technology has caught up to the point where it's now an actuality, or if they're just doing fear-mongering with that Nest story again

I don't believe that a couple of hackers, a couple of young nerds, obtained access to a nanny cam and used that ability to threaten the life of a three year old and play porn through the loving speaker. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I'm not going to take it at face value.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

I don't believe that a couple of hackers, a couple of young nerds, obtained access to a nanny cam and used that ability to threaten the life of a three year old and play porn through the loving speaker. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I'm not going to take it at face value.

channers would 100% do this, and I know nanny cams are accessible over the internet.

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

I don't believe that a couple of hackers, a couple of young nerds, obtained access to a nanny cam and used that ability to threaten the life of a three year old and play porn through the loving speaker. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I'm not going to take it at face value.

?? its like script kiddie MO

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

I don't believe that a couple of hackers, a couple of young nerds, obtained access to a nanny cam and used that ability to threaten the life of a three year old and play porn through the loving speaker. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I'm not going to take it at face value.

Years ago, Something Awful goons were finding and sharing unsecured cameras using google. This is the same thing, only cameras have speakers now.

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


I wonder when people began thinking that "hacking" was exclusively complicated code injection and packet sniffing attacks

When people leave their keys under their front mats and someone picks it up and gets into the house using that key, instead of using a glass cutter or lockpicks, is it not burglary?

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

SKULL.GIF posted:

I wonder when people began thinking that "hacking" was exclusively complicated code injection and packet sniffing attacks

When people leave their keys under their front mats and someone picks it up and gets into the house using that key, instead of using a glass cutter or lockpicks, is it not burglary?

I mean thats trespassing unless they steal poo poo or do another crime.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
its almost like words have specific definitions or something??? idk sounds crazy but maybe its true

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Shooting someone is actually a form of bio-hacking

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Telsa Cola posted:

I mean thats trespassing unless they steal poo poo or do another crime.

I don't know how universal this is, but in at least some places that's legally breaking and entering, even if there was no "breaking".

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

univbee posted:

I don't know how universal this is, but in at least some places that's legally breaking and entering, even if there was no "breaking".

Yeah I should clarify that States have different defintions for this poo poo but at least for burgarly it almost universally is trespassing with the intent of an additional crime.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Remember the "hacker" who got access to Sarah Palin's Yahoo E-Mail used the super-hacker trick...of saying "I forgot my password", then answering the personal security questions using her Wikipedia page as a guide.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

univbee posted:

Remember the "hacker" who got access to Sarah Palin's Yahoo E-Mail used the super-hacker trick...of saying "I forgot my password", then answering the personal security questions using her Wikipedia page as a guide.

dude, if they used a computer to do computer things, thats hacking. its pretty cut and dry

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




bring back old gbs posted:

dude, if they used a computer to do computer things, thats hacking. its pretty cut and dry

That reminds me, likely apocryphal, but I've heard tales of a convicted "hacker", who as part of his release wasn't allowed to touch a computer, who still gave conferences where he demonstrated successful hacking techniques. It mostly involved calling around and getting as much information as possible on the company's structure (names of people in various roles and their direct phone extensions) and then contacting IT who would reset some important password because he knew enough about the company that he passed for someone internal.

Also if you have an hour to kill here's a decade-old Defcon presentation on No-Tech Hacking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CWrzVJYLWw

Feral Integral
Jun 6, 2006

YOSPOS

univbee posted:

That reminds me, likely apocryphal, but I've heard tales of a convicted "hacker", who as part of his release wasn't allowed to touch a computer, who still gave conferences where he demonstrated successful hacking techniques. It mostly involved calling around and getting as much information as possible on the company's structure (names of people in various roles and their direct phone extensions) and then contacting IT who would reset some important password because he knew enough about the company that he passed for someone internal.

ya this is Kevin Mitnick's tale

good vid btw, the speaker is quite humorous

Feral Integral has issued a correction as of 18:03 on Apr 25, 2019

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
if you let this man near a telephone wire, he can start a nuclear war!!

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

SKULL.GIF posted:

I wonder when people began thinking that "hacking" was exclusively complicated code injection and packet sniffing attacks

When people leave their keys under their front mats and someone picks it up and gets into the house using that key, instead of using a glass cutter or lockpicks, is it not burglary?

when big corporations started facing compromises that affected the customers in some way

they'll look bad if anyone realizes it was due to basic security mistakes and gullibility and therefore definitely the company's fault, so it's in their interest to portray it as a super sophisticated cutting-edge hack that no one could possibly have stopped (and therefore it wouldn't be fair to blame them for failing to stop it)

Kobayashi
Aug 13, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

This is disturbing in ways I cannot articulate.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

It's basically the gordian knot solution. Some places handle security well, some don't, but it's easier to just skip around any potential security rather than poke around, and so hackers put an industrial level of effort into cracking passwords and passing around massive lists of leaked passwords. Figuring out whether your password is on one of the massive lists is also problematic because then you'd have to give your password to check.

There are some weird workarounds though.


I hate how readily all the media has taken to all these newspeak words to phrase growing poverty as some kind of newfangled philosophy.

People who can't afford to live in real homes and have so few belongings that they carry them all at all times aren't hobos, they're "minimalist". Having only vague pretenses to ownership without any of the actual rights isn't renting anymore, it's "the sharing economy". That's some real dystopia poo poo there

Rozzbot posted:

Every surface in any given public space is l covered in poop and jizz because nobody washes their hands

Also for the most part it's demonstrably fine.

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib

Kobayashi posted:

This is disturbing in ways I cannot articulate.

My first thought was that within a few years we'll see a news story about a third world hell-zoo with a hundred chimps trained to work as an instagram pay-for-influence farm / mechanical turk.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1121083347785195522

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

part 2 https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1121449785725210624

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Isn't part 2 a company trying to avoid the criticism that the company in part 1 is running into?

Insanite
Aug 30, 2005


quote:

In separate discussions verified by Motherboard, that employee said Twitter hasn’t taken the same aggressive approach to white supremacist content because the collateral accounts that are impacted can, in some instances, be Republican politicians.

The employee argued that, on a technical level, content from Republican politicians could get swept up by algorithms aggressively removing white supremacist material. Banning politicians wouldn’t be accepted by society as a trade-off for flagging all of the white supremacist propaganda, he argued.

Oh my.

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CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

General Dog posted:

Isn't part 2 a company trying to avoid the criticism that the company in part 1 is running into?

I mean wouldn’t shutting ISIS down already meet that criteria?

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