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UnbearablyBlight
Nov 4, 2009

hello i am your heart how nice to meet you
I love Troll Hunter, but it’s weird to me that people consider it horror. I always thought of it as more action/fantasy oriented.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Esme posted:

I love Troll Hunter, but it’s weird to me that people consider it horror. I always thought of it as more action/fantasy oriented.

I can't really disagree overall but that scene where the camera guy gets snatched up as they flee the cave and ripped apart/eaten by a gang of trolls is pretty horrific.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Basebf555 posted:

I can't really disagree overall but that scene where the camera guy gets snatched up as they flee the cave and ripped apart/eaten by a gang of trolls is pretty horrific.

A fate befitting many Christians I’ve met, tbh

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Well poo poo, now I want to watch Troll Hunter again. A great example of how CGI can be used to great effect, even with a smaller budget, as long as you have some restraint and know how to shoot it properly.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Gerald’s Game is possibly the only movie I’ve seen that pretty much directly translates to film one of Stephen King’s notoriously wonky/rushed endings, and I find that particularly fascinating.

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Pomp posted:

I can't blame anyone who can't ignore Depp's presence, but Sweeney Todd is fun and is probably the last thing worth watching Burton is ever going to direct :colbert: (I wouldn't watch it as part of a horror binge tho)

I thought it was fine. Depp is lifeless in it but that’s fine for this character imo.

M_Sinistrari posted:

Sweetney Todd you can drop. It's typical Burton twee.

Franchescanado posted:

It’s a gothic (emo) romance musical with some blood and murders in it. Not really a fun horror movie.

It feels anachronistic to call it twee and emo since it’s more or less just the Sondheim play. It seems like this thread is against good old fashioned dumb show tunes since every time the subject of horror musicals gets brought up euro-pop and disco stuff gets recommended.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


See now I love showtunes (I was Audrey II in 10th grade), so I think I owe Sweeney Todd some time on my screen.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Drunkboxer posted:

I thought it was fine. Depp is lifeless in it but that’s fine for this character imo.



It feels anachronistic to call it twee and emo since it’s more or less just the Sondheim play. It seems like this thread is against good old fashioned dumb show tunes since every time the subject of horror musicals gets brought up euro-pop and disco stuff gets recommended.

Eh, it's retroactively twee. I'm pretty sure it counts as emo due to the fact that emo has been Burton's bread and butter since The Nightmare Before Christmas.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Iron Crowned posted:

Eh, it's retroactively twee. I'm pretty sure it counts as emo due to the fact that emo has been Burton's bread and butter since The Nightmare Before Christmas.

Tim Burton neither wrote nor directed Nightmare Before Christmas.

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Easy Diff posted:

See now I love showtunes (I was Audrey II in 10th grade), so I think I owe Sweeney Todd some time on my screen.

Did you guys have a big plant puppet?

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



Kvlt! posted:

Sweeney Todd is loving fantastic whatre you guys talking about

It's okay, but I'm a bit partial to the Angela Lansbury one.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Drunkboxer posted:

I thought it was fine. Depp is lifeless in it but that’s fine for this character imo.



It feels anachronistic to call it twee and emo since it’s more or less just the Sondheim play. It seems like this thread is against good old fashioned dumb show tunes since every time the subject of horror musicals gets brought up euro-pop and disco stuff gets recommended.

I think it’s fine. I like some of the songs—I think the film’s version of the ‘Joanna’ is better than stage versions—and Bonham Carter is a good fit in her role, and Alan Rickman is a perfect choice for the villain. I think calling it the possible last good Burton flick is interesting and kind of appropriate. For a horror challenge, it’s pretty skippable, since it’s a musical first and a revenge flick second and a comedic love story third, with murders and some gore thrown in. Horror isn’t really on the film’s agenda, minus a few tense moments when Todd starts his murderin’.

You’re right, though. Emo isn’t an accurate remark on the film, but it has always been really popular among emo and goth culture, like Repo the Genetic Opera.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Drunkboxer posted:

Did you guys have a big plant puppet?

I did. It sucked and barely worked.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Sweeney Todd is way more horror than the Lure so if the latter counts so does the fomer

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Adding Peewees Big Adventure to the horror challenge, to own the libs

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Pomp posted:

Adding Peewees Big Adventure to the horror challenge, to own the libs

Hey, if you can justify it as horror in a write-up, I say it counts.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



you can literally justify any movie as any genre if you try hard enough tbh

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Isn't that K. Waste's whole shtick.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Lurdiak posted:

Isn't that K. Waste's whole shtick.

I thought K. Waste's shtick was effortlessly dunking on all of my opinions.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Easy Diff posted:

Tim Burton neither wrote nor directed Nightmare Before Christmas.

Then why are the two forever linked in my brain?

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Iron Crowned posted:

Then why are the two forever linked in my brain?

It's called Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas and he produced it and it's very "Burton-esque"

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Iron Crowned posted:

Then why are the two forever linked in my brain?

He produced it. It’s based off a poem he wrote and illustrated. Henry Sellick (Coraline!) directed it.

gey muckle mowser
Aug 5, 2003

Do you know anything about...
witches?



Buglord

Easy Diff posted:

Tim Burton neither wrote nor directed Nightmare Before Christmas.

he wrote the poem that it is based on and was heavily involved with the production

e: I'm slow

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Pomp posted:

Adding Peewees Big Adventure to the horror challenge, to own the libs
Big Top Pee-Wee is legitimately a terrifying movie, and its greatest sin is introducing a love interest and Pee-Wee kissing her on-screen. It's distressing. :cry:

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
What's David Bruckner up to now? I keep finding myself wishing I could watch The Ritual again for the first time.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Drunkboxer posted:

I thought it was fine. Depp is lifeless in it but that’s fine for this character imo.
That's not really true of the stage productions. I've seen a couple of productions in different style and the hatred and frustration that both actors I've seen play Todd is pretty intense. The "BENJAMIN BARKER!" scene that left me with goosebumps in the play doesn't really mean all that much in the movie. On the opposite end though, Todd always usually is played with a bit of a sense of humor. The humor of "Try the Priest" is really undersold in the movie. I think despite Depp's age he tries to play Todd as cool and that's really going the wrong way with it. Todd is a very definitively middle aged character, a man who has had his dreams and hopes ripped from him and is now nothing but anger and malice. He's not a cool and collected badass. He's an angry and bitter old poo poo.

I would have preferred an older actress being given the role of Lovett, but I think Carter gets who the character is supposed to be and has a lot more fun with it.

To be clear, I don't need copies of the stage productions--Sweeney Todd is fun because there are so many different productions with a recent 1950s looking and semi-interactive run in NYC from last year being great. And I'm probably the only person on the planet who will actually defend Russel Crowe's performance in Les Mis. But I actually think Crowe goes for something interesting despite it not being what people wanted whereas Depp's take is just boring.

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It feels anachronistic to call it twee and emo since it’s more or less just the Sondheim play. It seems like this thread is against good old fashioned dumb show tunes since every time the subject of horror musicals gets brought up euro-pop and disco stuff gets recommended.
I feel like the thing about Sondheim's work is that it's mostly about frustrated and broken people. Even his more overly clever and fantastical plays like Sweeney Todd or Into the Woods are really grounded in just very human and relatable feelings of life not going the way you expected. I think the film version really focused more on the macabre fairy tale over the story of how a good man finds himself a monster.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

I thought our gimmick was getting annoyed at people who claim horror films are non-horror, not the other way around.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Lurdiak posted:

Isn't that K. Waste's whole shtick.

K. Waste doesn't have a shtick, he's just a capital-F capital-N Film Nerd in a forum full of people that aren't typically nearly so academic about it

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Samuel Clemens posted:

I thought our gimmick was getting annoyed at people who claim horror films are non-horror, not the other way around.

I don't have a gimmick

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



he definitely does it as a shtick tho. There's forums where his level of "academic-talk" are normal/expected but he chooses to post essays on a dying forum where we argue over castration scenes.

I mean a shtick is ok, i have my posers and evil bongs shtick, but lets not act like he doesnt play the academic card up a lot or stretch genre definitons to get a reaction (from idiots like me who will argue over the definition of torture porn for hours)

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Pomp posted:

Adding Peewees Big Adventure to the horror challenge, to own the libs

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

And that's not even the scariest scene.

Sab Sabbington
Sep 18, 2016

In my restless dreams I see that town...

Flagstaff, Arizona

Easy Diff posted:

So I'm gonna watch 15 horror movies in May. :yeah: Here's a list of the 18 highest-rated horror movies on NetFlix that I haven't seen. Ignoring the obvious scratch of the 1991 award show, what other two can I drop to get down to 15?



Kvlt! posted:

ooooh green room youre in for a treat

Seriously second for Green Room, it has one of the most emotionally affecting scenes I've ever seen in a movie, and Anton Yelchin was such a good actor it was genuinely world shattering for me when he died.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Also yeah, Green Room basically killed the entire home-invasion/siege subgenre of horror for me because it proved that your protagonists don't actually have to be hilariously incompetent for that to work

like, none of the band are trained badasses or anything, but they're able to think on their feet and defend themselves from basically the second things go to poo poo. i know we dog on "tactical realism" complaints a lot in horror, but... Green Room is an example of a movie that goes along with everything those folks say, and is still scary as gently caress because it turns out that people thinking on their feet is not an insta-win button when you're dealing with a horde of Nazis trying to kill you.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Well I'm gonna watch 15 of the 18 films there, so the question is "what three to cut."

Lookin' forward to Green Room anyway though

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
47 Meters Down was terrible definitely don't bother with that. Jaws is on Netflix, just watch that again if you really feel like watching a shark movie.

Big Bob Pataki
Jan 23, 2009

The Bob that Refreshes
That pic is making me mad all over again that they're making a sequel to 47 Meters Down and not calling it 48 Meters Down.

Absolute cowards.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
For some reason they're making a 47 Meters Down sequel, I have to admit I'm intrigued.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

I’m not squeamish, but that one scene in Green Room made me viscerally react with a “nope, mm-mmm” and a head shake.

Y’all know the one I’m talking about.

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WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tart Kitty posted:

I’m not squeamish, but that one scene in Green Room made me viscerally react with a “nope, mm-mmm” and a head shake.

Y’all know the one I’m talking about.

There were multiple like that for me.

The arm, obv, but also when the MMA guy whose name I'm forgetting gets his head bashed in and is technically barely alive for most of the rest of the movie

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