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Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Rose Hanbury, The Marchioness Of Cholmondeley

I fell down a wikipedia hole not long ago looking up the family history of British aristocrats and the marquess's of Cholmondeley have some exalted ancestors, being descended from David Sassoon, a Baghdadi jew who got rich selling opium to China. One of Hanbury's maternal great great uncles was Sir Philip Sassoon, a flamboyantly gay MP who spent the 1920s chasing young aviators and throwing lavish parties at his private estates

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prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
Bercow and Corbyn. :peanut:

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/1121812243916763136

I wish more people would snub him. Anybody know any marchionesses?

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Chokes McGee posted:

from what I understand the air force is one of the most useless branches of the us military

"And unconstitutional!" - voice from deep within the Green Mountains.

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Chokes McGee posted:

from what I understand the air force is one of the most useless branches of the us military

It's in a 4 way tie for most useless with all the branches except the coast guard, which actually has a use

Ardlen
Sep 30, 2005
WoT



atelier morgan posted:

It's in a 4 way tie for most useless with all the branches except the coast guard, which actually has a use
Don't forget about NOAA and PHS; they have a use as well.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Regarde Aduck posted:

You guys know that Scotland ended up as part of the union because they tried to get their colonial game on but hosed up and bankrupted themselves and asked to join? I mean feel free to cheer on any diminishing of 'England' or whatever but don't feel pity for the Scotsman. They hosed up back then and they hosed up when they voted no a couple of years ago.

shut the gently caress up sassenach~

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Jose posted:

lol that everyone knows an affair has happened but the british press are terrified of losing access so are being racist and blaming meghan markle for it

https://twitter.com/irffyali/status/1121145733401448448

a royal doing the work of a commoner :monocle:

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
Oddly, I don't know or care which ultra rich parasite dabbled in which ultra rich parasite.
fancy that?!


I do, on the other hand, care about how long people have to wait on the phone just to speak to something at the dwp.
thats also the kind of thing thats resoundingly ignored by the press: how worthless our Govt is with regard to actually doing what they are supposed to be doing instead of neighing at each other in a small room, then getting pissed at taxpayers expense.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




staberind posted:

Oddly, I don't know or care which ultra rich parasite dabbled in which ultra rich parasite.
fancy that?!


I do, on the other hand, care about how long people have to wait on the phone just to speak to something at the dwp.
thats also the kind of thing thats resoundingly ignored by the press: how worthless our Govt is with regard to actually doing what they are supposed to be doing instead of neighing at each other in a small room, then getting pissed at taxpayers expense.

are you running for parliament in some riding where they couldnt find an actual good orator

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Squizzle posted:

as in, "she behaved chum-ly toward hrh the dukes cum-ly"

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004


I was going to say why dont we hear from corb much anymore

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

Squizzle posted:

are you running for parliament in some riding where they couldnt find an actual good orator

I invite m'lerned gentleman to feast upon my freshly produced turds, bring a doggy bag for the wife and kids.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




staberind posted:

I invite m'lerned gentleman to feast upon my freshly produced turds, bring a doggy bag for the wife and kids.

why would i carry my family in a bag????

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
Why indeed?

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Hentai Jihadist posted:

this is a hangable offense

americans can't commit lese majesty because we acknowledge no royalty
is lese majesty still a crime on your island?

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Jose posted:

Reminder for Americans who don't know this sort of thing that Harry isn't charles son and is the result of Diana having an affair

She totally had an affair but hes got a strong resemblance to Prince Philip so idk]

Raskolnikov38 posted:

can you just guillotine them already or stab them with butter knives or whatever weapons you're still allowed to have

knife crime :ohdear:


lol

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/sippykat/status/1121638946612506627

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Squizzle posted:

are you running for parliament in some riding where they couldnt find an actual good orator

Why do Canadians call constituencies ridings, it sounds silly.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

marktheando posted:

Why do Canadians call constituencies ridings, it sounds silly.

Because Canades are silly

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Sorry Im hell-American and just want to understand a little bit better: Corbyn is like the english version of the Workhorse Man-of-the-people (poors) party? And when he originally ran he was like a joke that all the rich people teased and then he won in a landslide because he campaigned well and now he's someone you have to listen to? He's the head of your poor people party, but does that give him any power besides owning people on Twitter? And he's definitely better than May but not as powerful?

Im sorry it's hard to understand your metered democracy and sham monarchy when i live in the US, in which our sham democracy has become a constitutional monarchy

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Bust Rodd posted:

Sorry Im hell-American and just want to understand a little bit better: Corbyn is like the english version of the Workhorse Man-of-the-people (poors) party? And when he originally ran he was like a joke that all the rich people teased and then he won in a landslide because he campaigned well and now he's someone you have to listen to? He's the head of your poor people party, but does that give him any power besides owning people on Twitter? And he's definitely better than May but not as powerful?

Im sorry it's hard to understand your metered democracy and sham monarchy when i live in the US, in which our sham democracy has become a constitutional monarchy

Corbyn sits on the Queen's Privy Council, this means that when Her Royal Highness is on her 'throne' he gets to clean Her Majesty's Royal anus with the traditional ermine covered stick. This is considered the best time to ask the ageing monarch for a favour, and Corbyn takes full advantage of this to fight inequality.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Gum posted:

but seriously, you'd get sued

If the Sunday Sport breaks the news, does that get around Britain's insane libel laws?

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




marktheando posted:

Why do Canadians call constituencies ridings, it sounds silly.

im not canadian tho

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Squizzle posted:

im not canadian tho

Oh I've only heard Canadians use it before. What strange land do you hail from, we don't; say riding in the uk

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
Does anyone have a link which explains the cheating story?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Bust Rodd posted:

Sorry Im hell-American and just want to understand a little bit better: Corbyn is like the english version of the Workhorse Man-of-the-people (poors) party? And when he originally ran he was like a joke that all the rich people teased and then he won in a landslide because he campaigned well and now he's someone you have to listen to? He's the head of your poor people party, but does that give him any power besides owning people on Twitter? And he's definitely better than May but not as powerful?

Im sorry it's hard to understand your metered democracy and sham monarchy when i live in the US, in which our sham democracy has become a constitutional monarchy

the poor people party had become basically third-way democrats (but only aspired to being as insane as in america) and lost a bunch of elections since blair left in disgrace after iraq

the third way technocrats who were in control of the party were concerned that everybody hated them, so decided to make it easier to join the party and vote for the leader because they thought there were millions of socially liberal fiscally conservative voters waiting in the wings because theyv driven themself insane with liberal op-eds
instead they were immediately overwhelmed by labour's original poor people party base returning after leaving during third-way labours authoritarian centrist phase

our parties are actual like... real political organisations unlike the psuedo-party corporations in america so the labour party is genuinely being retaken by its traditional base because its internal structure allows this sort of democratic influx in a way that the US parties absolutely do not and were never intended to. party policy is decided by vote and members of the party apparatus are all elected for example, so the "corbynistas" have been owning the gently caress outta the centrists by simply voting in these elections in huge numbers.
(not all UK parties are like this, the tories have their own way of doing things that is less democratic and is why Tory MPs basically over-ruled the membership and coronated May as the sensible choice lol)

as leader of the opposition (biggest non govmt party in parliament) corbyn has symbolic power but it ultimately just comes down to seat numbers in parliament and whether he can gently caress the governments majority, which hes done a few times but he doesnt have the numbers to just overturn brexit or whatever demands people expect of him since the tories' literal only good political instinct is strong discipline vs labour votes

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
as i understand it a man of noble born married a woman of common background and then hosed another woman who was not his wife

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


also worth pointing out that while corbyn is backed strongly by the membership the party MPs are by huge majority centrist dinosaurs left over from the blair years, opposed to socialism and to the membership.
so there have been constant rebellions and backstabbing and sabotaging from within the party for the last 4 years, letting up for only a week or two at a time and restarting every time corbyn pulls ahead in the polls.
this will probably be a long term problem for labour, since its hard to get rid of MPs. luckily a bunch of them have purged themselves in hissy fits but the others will probably take a long time to remove

it makes me appreciate our system a bit because if bernie wins the nom in america he will have to govern as this internal sabotage starts happening to him, whereas if corbyn wins a general election he's been dealing with this for years already
also american "political parties" are indulgently undemocratic, in the UK the membership would just vote for M4A at the party conference and that would be that

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

marktheando posted:

Why do Canadians call constituencies ridings, it sounds silly.

Because Anglo-Canadians are afflicted with the second most adorable/sad delusion in the world. That they are more like you than the US culturally.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003


didn’t some analysis of political leaders and their speeches reveal that May is the same as Trump? it’s just that she’s so useless and everyone knows she’s so weak that it’s ignored?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Jel Shaker posted:

didn’t some analysis of political leaders and their speeches reveal that May is the same as Trump? it’s just that she’s so useless and everyone knows she’s so weak that it’s ignored?

Failscions are pretty much all the same like that, yeah

animist
Aug 28, 2018
brexit

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1122197727499161600


RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
What makes MPs so hard to get rid of in the uk?

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Reality Winter posted:

What makes MPs so hard to get rid of in the uk?

They lay 40 eggs a day and are born pregnant. They can fit into spaces that a sheet of paper can't be fit between. You pretty much have to burn all your clothes and move to a new house to get rid of your MP

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Reality Winter posted:

What makes MPs so hard to get rid of in the uk?

almost everyting in the UK political system relies on the honour of politicians to police themselves individually lol

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Reality Winter posted:

What makes MPs so hard to get rid of in the uk?

Becoming an MP in the UK is ironically a lot like countries joining the EU. The biggest hurdle is being selected as a candidate, that means getting though the internal selection procedure of whichever party you're a member of and it's very difficult and in the major parties party bigwigs have a massive amount of control over the process. But then once you're in the actual parliamentary electoral system doesn't have any means for parties to remove the MPs, they are essentially treated by the parliamentary structure the same way we'd hope an independent saviour of the nation voice-of-a-generation outsider would be, unless the MP themself calls a byelection (which actually has happened in the semi-recent past) they are irremovable until their term ends.

Basically to become an MP the power lies with the political party, but once somebody is an MP the power lies with them as an individual. A current struggle in the Labour party is to give local members more power to remove their constituency MP if that MP is poo poo, but it's sort of tricky because even if the party said full membership power now the party itself is still impotent in the parliamentary structure. The best compromise outcome is mandatory reselection, that means that for each election cycle the incumbent MP or MP candidate has to win the approval of the local members, but it's being resisted tooth and nail by the New Labour establishment because most of them would get slung out on their arse by their local members.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




marktheando posted:

Oh I've only heard Canadians use it before. What strange land do you hail from, we don't; say riding in the uk

my views on society and justice crystalized while i was living near a neighborhood that was predominantly underprivileged centaurs, so many horse related terms have become permanent fixtures of my political lexicon

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/MrRyanSampson/status/1122041626262745088

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Martin BadClixx
Jul 14, 2012

dada stijl

:cumpolice:
Flubbing my pants

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