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the best part is that the cashiers always have long lines, because they never hvae more than 3 of them working at a time
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Apr 27, 2019 22:19
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:self checkout is not reducing labor through automation, its putting the labor on the costumer instead of paid workers yeah it's this Self-checkout is a way of getting you, the consumer, to do the work that a person would be paid for otherwise, allowing the company to save money by having one person watch 6 checkout lanes instead of having to pay 6 workers. It's poo poo absolute trash
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Apr 27, 2019 22:20
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:I was at Target late last night and the only checkstands that were open were the self checkouts. There was one woman sort of managing all four of these kiosks and it looked like it was going ok. that old guy is a hero in this case
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Apr 27, 2019 22:22
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:I was at Target late last night and the only checkstands that were open were the self checkouts. There was one woman sort of managing all four of these kiosks and it looked like it was going ok. sounds like they need a second employee to run their grocery business
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Apr 27, 2019 22:24
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:self checkout is not reducing labor through automation, its putting the labor on the costumer instead of paid workers Yeah. And we were promised RFID tagged groceries 20 years ago so we wouldn't even have to use a checkout scanner, but that appears to be as hard as fusion reactors to implement.
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Apr 27, 2019 22:25
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Prav posted:sounds like they need a second employee to run their grocery business yeah no poo poo but that employee can't fix that at 10:00 pm on a Friday. he's technically right but he's literally helping no one.
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Apr 27, 2019 22:29
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sounds like he's helping himself
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Apr 27, 2019 22:31
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Sounds like the kind of thing you should call management about and be very clear that you blame them personally and not their hero employee who deserves a raise and that you will probably call corporate to let them know the managers are trash It's a hollow bullshit empty threat but store managers are cowards and you should always tell them that you hold them personally responsible for problems that come from their lovely hour cutting bullshit
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Apr 27, 2019 22:34
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Nothus posted:Yeah. And we were promised RFID tagged groceries 20 years ago so we wouldn't even have to use a checkout scanner, but that appears to be as hard as fusion reactors to implement. It's not hard as gently caress, it's expensive as gently caress. RFID tags are always going to more expensive than a paper tags, not that most grocery stores even paper tag their items anymore. External RFID tags would just encourage assholes to swap tags as well, and get $200 in groceries for the price of 20 apples. And trying to get food manufacturers to build in RFID tags into their packaging is a literally impossible task, as you'd never get them to agree on a style or standard of doing so.
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Apr 27, 2019 22:36
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Paramemetic posted:Sounds like the kind of thing you should call management about and be very clear that you blame them personally and not their hero employee who deserves a raise and that you will probably call corporate to let them know the managers are trash lmao why would I call someone's manager because an old shithead is being an old shithead? I made my purchase and left.
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Apr 27, 2019 22:47
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:self checkout is not reducing labor through automation, its putting the labor on the costumer instead of paid workers it’s reducing the amount of labor I have to engage in to pay for my groceries if ya know what I mean
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Apr 27, 2019 23:19
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:self checkout is not reducing labor through automation, its putting the labor on the costumer instead of paid workers Well, the payroll cost shrunk so I guess it must be automated. Checkmate lib
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Apr 27, 2019 23:32
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self checkout has helped me make my foodstamps stretch so much. No-one gaf no matter how much you forget to scan.
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Apr 27, 2019 23:44
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:lmao why would I call someone's manager because an old shithead is being an old shithead? I made my purchase and left. To pressure management to employ more people / give more hours to workers instead of making everyone work 3 parttime jobs + 8 gigs I guess I mean if you're makin' it about that, otherwise yeah just buy yr poo poo and go lmao
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Apr 27, 2019 23:46
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the best part is because the grocery stores dont try to measure how much more people steal going through self checkout so even if they are losing tons of money due to increased theft they dont care because labor costs are all management cares about
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Apr 27, 2019 23:48
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cashiers get paid so little i cant imagine that the couple hundred bucks the company saves a day outweigh the increased theft too much
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Apr 27, 2019 23:49
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Cashier is such a weird job because I can't think of another job which has had such insane wage rollbacks in such a short amount of time, Safeway used to pay cashiers $20 an hour when I was a kid, so 1980's dollars. Plus they got benefits and perks and poo poo. In less then 20 years cashier has become a minimum wage job at best.
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Apr 27, 2019 23:54
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Cashier is such a weird job because I can't think of another job which has had such insane wage rollbacks in such a short amount of time, Its weird because on paper the grocers union has a huge membership and a lot of big chains are union shops but in practice it's a company union where new hires are all minimum wage with poo poo benefits and it's only dudes in their 50s that have been there since high school making enough to live off
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Apr 28, 2019 00:29
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-25/the-future-of-work-could-bring-more-inequality-social-tensionsquote:Automation, robots and globalization are rapidly changing the workplace and governments must act fast and decisively to counter the effects or face a worsening of social and economic tensions, the OECD warned.
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Apr 28, 2019 00:30
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i like self checkout because i worked a register and i can work faster than most people and like the freedom to pack my bags how i like them to be bagged sucks they cut hours instead of hiring people to man the register but that’s out of my hands
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Apr 28, 2019 00:31
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Its the same thing with those restaurants that dont have someone who's there just to put your napkin in your lap for you. the restaurant gets to cut on labor and make the customer do it instead.
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Apr 28, 2019 00:35
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Cashier is such a weird job because I can't think of another job which has had such insane wage rollbacks in such a short amount of time, truly this was the weirdest part of “stranger things”
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Apr 28, 2019 00:36
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cashiers make ~17,75 per hour + extra for weekends etc here in dk. then again, high taxes but universal healthcare so not really comparable i guess.
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Apr 28, 2019 02:39
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Larry Parrish posted:Its weird because on paper the grocers union has a huge membership and a lot of big chains are union shops but in practice it's a company union where new hires are all minimum wage with poo poo benefits and it's only dudes in their 50s that have been there since high school making enough to live off gently caress the UFCW. gently caress them hard. They never did gently caress all for us, and actively worked to create contracts that pit older workers against more recent hires. Also the rep was buddy-buddy with all the managers, like a pud.
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Apr 28, 2019 03:50
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Larry Parrish posted:Its weird because on paper the grocers union has a huge membership and a lot of big chains are union shops but in practice it's a company union where new hires are all minimum wage with poo poo benefits and it's only dudes in their 50s that have been there since high school making enough to live off the only grocery store union i've ever been familiar with had a few full-time lifers with good pay and benefits and a lot of part-time young people making minimum wage and no benefits, and the store just pitted them against each other any time there were contract negotiations, like offering contracts along the lines of "we cut full-time pay and benefits and no one gets a raise, but every employee gets a $200 bonus on the spot" and all the full-timers voted no and all the part-timers voted yes because they were planning to quit in a month anyway so it was free money, and the contract was approved because the part-timers outnumbered the full-timers like 3 to 1 needless to say, both groups of employees loving despised each other
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Apr 28, 2019 05:34
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also i never use self-checkouts on principle because i'm unwilling to do work that the store should pay someone else to do for me this is also why i don't eat at korean barbecue places
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Apr 28, 2019 05:35
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vyelkin posted:also i never use self-checkouts on principle because i'm unwilling to do work that the store should pay someone else to do for me You use the self service checkouts to steal more stuff than they would have spent on staff.
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Apr 28, 2019 05:40
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Not having to look someone in the eye when buying Safeway ice cream at 2am is a nice feature of modernity
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Apr 28, 2019 05:55
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Yeah, self checkouts are a blessing for people with generalized anxiety. I get what I need with minimal non-essential human interaction for those days when other people are too much to deal with, but I still need fuckin groceries.
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Apr 28, 2019 05:58
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self checkouts make me more anxious because if i do something seemingly wrong it screams "UNKNOWN ITEM IN THE BAGGING AREA" for gently caress all reason or goes "please wait for someone to assist you!!" when i say i have fuckin bags i don't need to pay for paper bags, and the line behind me grows and the monitoring person is busy with someone else so i'm just stuck, and even if it takes longer with a cashier, at least i don't look like i'm a dumbass who doesn't know how to use a self checkout
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Apr 28, 2019 06:08
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Gnossiennes posted:self checkouts make me more anxious because if i do something seemingly wrong it screams "UNKNOWN ITEM IN THE BAGGING AREA" for gently caress all reason or goes "please wait for someone to assist you!!" when i say i have fuckin bags i don't need to pay for paper bags, and the line behind me grows and the monitoring person is busy with someone else so i'm just stuck, and even if it takes longer with a cashier, at least i don't look like i'm a dumbass who doesn't know how to use a self checkout i cant wait for when self checkouts just shoot and kill you when anything goes wrong because gently caress you, criminal
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Apr 28, 2019 06:09
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"BITCH, YOU JUST WEIGHED THESE GOTDANG BANANAS," I scream at the machine, "THE gently caress YOU MEAN 'UNKNOWN ITEM IN THE CHECKING AREA,' STOP loving WITH ME."
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Apr 28, 2019 06:09
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KiteAuraan posted:gently caress the UFCW. gently caress them hard. They never did gently caress all for us, and actively worked to create contracts that pit older workers against more recent hires. Also the rep was buddy-buddy with all the managers, like a pud. I moved to Ohio from WV while working for Kroger as a pharmacy technician. In WV the pharmacies aren't part of the union. After about 6 months I put in for vacation, I had two or three works accrued because I'd worked in WV for a year or so. Management approved my vacation. I went to make a withdrawal while in Scotland and found out I hadn't been paid. When I got home I found out my union steward got management to revoke my vacation because I earned it while not part of the bargaining unit. gently caress UFCW and any other union that colludes with management against the workers. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Edit: UFCW also regularly tried to negotiate that pharmacy technicians should be paid at the same pay scale as baggers because we were a "data entry position." I was a nationally certified pharmacy technician but the union negotiated that management shouldn't recognize outside certifications because it was unfair that pharmacy technicians could bypass seniority by having credentials. It made it really hard when strike talk would happen since my comrades were threatening to strike to make sure I was paid less. Paramemetic has issued a correction as of 06:33 on Apr 28, 2019 |
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Apr 28, 2019 06:28
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This reminds me of a section of a book that anyone who frequents this thread would love. It's from The Dark Forest and without giving too much way the future of humanity is filled with cosmological hubris solely because there is IoT everywhere like cigarettes that you check your email from and sidewalks that you can check your email from and shoes that you can check your email from. There is a scene where the IoT tries to kill someone and of course the hubris eventually completely backfires nicely.
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Apr 28, 2019 06:43
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that whole trilogy is completely depressing. three dimensional life only exists because of precursor aliens being so desperate to destroy their enemies that they used dimensional collapse weapons to destroy reality as both them and their enemies knew it, just because and life as anyone can imagine it, even mathematically, is impossible in two dimensions, but huge chunks of the three dimensional universe are already collapsed into two dimensions
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Apr 28, 2019 11:03
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Self checkout thieving tips, UK edition: Greet the door security on arrival with a nod, make eye contact. Look smart & purposeful, carry a reusable tote bag with a respectable class signifier (Waitrose, Guardian, art gallery logo, or similar). Take a basket - you can put your environmentally friendly bag in the bottom and some stuff will just naturally fall in before you make it to the checkout. When you're at the registers, put a few expensive items (i.e coffee, meat, butter, chocolate, detergents, etc) on top of the scanner, as if considering your purchase, while you scan thru less expensive items (bulky staples, veg, crisps & snacks, tinned goods). Think about the size and shape of what you buy vs. what you rob. Don't steal beer, but always use buying beer as an opportunity to rinse some other poo poo ("I forgot" is much more believable when you might be half cut.) Pay for the cheap poo poo then pack everything, including unscanned items, into your nice bag. This works even better on the new type of cashless self-checkouts that don't have a weighing scale. Put the pricey stolen stuff at the top - the less you try to hide it, the easier it can be blagged off as a simple absent-minded error. Never print a receipt, or leave a receipt in the machine. Once all your poo poo's on board, head for the door. All security tags in local supermarkets are bogus, the magnetic barriers are switched off or hosed half the time anyway. Greet the door staff again on your way out. Obviously this only works if you can pass as white, middle-class and well-off. Supermarkets have training guidelines on who's not to be trusted and professional- or hipster-looking ABC1s don't figure on those. When I have cash I'll spend it at independent, immigrant-owned shops. When I don't have cash, I'll take the things I want from the big chains that are making life harder for those kind of places. Good luck to anyone who works retail; I did for several years, and my advice to someone starting out would be to gently caress with your employer's bottom line as early and often as you possibly can.
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Apr 28, 2019 11:04
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I like self checkout because I can scan the items at my own pace so I can be sure I won't be overcharged with items mislabel. With a cashier its too fast to follow the screen. The screen also intentionally list the price and discount number in different places to confuse you. I also sometimes throw stuff in the bag if the scanner doesn't register the barcode, it's not my fault if their scanner doesn't work. I know you guys argument about machine replacing human jobs but in the long run, human really shouldn't be doing these kind of dumb jobs. I also know somebody is going to bring up the failure of retraining. That's because neoliberal hellhole like US and UK doesn't spend any money on retraining (0.1% of GDP) compare to Scandinavian countries (2% of GDP). tino has issued a correction as of 11:23 on Apr 28, 2019 |
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Apr 28, 2019 11:18
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https://twitter.com/bilalfarooqui/status/887025375754166272 https://twitter.com/originalgriz/status/887662467014434816
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Apr 28, 2019 11:31
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"Uh yeah, it drowned itself", said the shifty looking heros.
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Apr 28, 2019 12:18
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Basically lmao if you aren't taking the self checkout as an opportunity to shoplift a day's pay worth of poo poo from the store.
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Apr 28, 2019 12:35
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