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Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

Re: tram chat, most of Boston's trams are either cream and green (Kinki-Sharyo made Type 7 Light Rail Vehicles) or silver and green (AnsaldoBreda Type 8 and CAF Type 9 LRVs).

There's also cream and red, but those are exclusively used on a separate line and are all refurbished PCCs.

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Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

Rude Dude With Tude posted:

Well if you're going to do that but want to have a less dense fuel source, you may as well put a diesel motor on wheels that the train can tow to make electricity? Or maybe have it built into it some way?
I don't know if this is :thejoke:, but that's what most diesel locomotives are, a diesel generator powering electric motors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_locomotive#Diesel%E2%80%93electric

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
So, vidya game question: my tiny hu-mon is a burgeoning train sperg and I’m shopping around for a good train game. Is OpenTTD still generally considered the state of the art?

Log082
Nov 8, 2008


Schadenboner posted:

So, vidya game question: my tiny hu-mon is a burgeoning train sperg and I’m shopping around for a good train game. Is OpenTTD still generally considered the state of the art?

Look at Transport Fever. The economic and signalling sim isn't as good, but the 3d track laying looks very pretty - your kid might enjoy it more than the older openTTD graphics.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Log082 posted:

Look at Transport Fever. The economic and signalling sim isn't as good, but the 3d track laying looks very pretty - your kid might enjoy it more than the older openTTD graphics.

Looks better (and way way less graphically intensive) than Railroad Empire. Thanks!

:tipshat:

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

just be aware it becomes a real resource hog in late game.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Also check out Rolling Line on Steam for general model-railroading fun. It's very neat in VR, incidentally.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
I sit down and play Sid Meier's Railroads with my kids.
Nice bright big graphics and a train table mode.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

TheFluff posted:

e: I may actually have found a reason for the tie rods - apparently it was hard to make a gearbox that was durable enough to handle the torque.
That makes sense, especially if you want to drive a whole bunch of axles.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Schadenboner posted:

So, vidya game question: my tiny hu-mon is a burgeoning train sperg and I’m shopping around for a good train game. Is OpenTTD still generally considered the state of the art?

I'm pretty stoked for Mashinky, which is a bit less hardcore than OTTD or Transport Fever, and lets you switch on the fly between an OTTD-style isometric view (good for building) and a TF-style 3d view (good for watching trains), but it's still in early access.

Stick Insect
Oct 24, 2010

My enemies are many.

My equals are none.
I've discovered that railway documentary makers Van den Burg Beeldproducties have a youtube channel where you can view some of their work for free: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSfg3cLqZ5TgmrOZlFx02Tg/videos

Some of it is available with English voice overs.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012
Well, a fan/foamer video, but UP 4014 (aka, bigboy) spotted with steam running in her again. I don't imagine it was at full pressure yet, but the burners were active and water running through her once more. Reportedly, they are on a raced schedule to have her restored and running for the anniversary event in a month or so from somewhere else I had read. So this is a sign they seem to be on track to roll her out for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Hv7_Z4ypA

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Still blows my mind that UP runs a steam program, let alone decided to restore and run a Big Boy.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

She's scheduled to run from Cheyenne to Ogden and back, double heading with the 844. They're departing on Saturday. I'm flying out there to chase it.

McDeth
Jan 12, 2005
4014 Whistle Testing Hype Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-hGabZ3pPY

Tex Avery
Feb 13, 2012

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

She's scheduled to run from Cheyenne to Ogden and back, double heading with the 844. They're departing on Saturday. I'm flying out there to chase it.

Good luck, have fun, and be safe. It'll be an absolute madhouse out there. I'm waiting to see where else they're going to run it on the UP territory and wait for it to come closer to me.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Tex Avery posted:

Good luck, have fun, and be safe. It'll be an absolute madhouse out there. I'm waiting to see where else they're going to run it on the UP territory and wait for it to come closer to me.

Yeah I'm expecting the lunacy. I had considered waiting for a later run, but there's something to be said for being there for the first one.

It probably won't get meaningfully closer to me as I'm on the east coast.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

It lives!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMNOnduYV3M&t=92s

iospace
Jan 19, 2038



:hellyeah:

Mr-Spain
Aug 27, 2003

Bullshit... you can be mine.
That's crazy.

McDeth
Jan 12, 2005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0iUMDCkzc

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012
Yeah, youtube is becoming flooded with videos now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvKfu_EGZIk

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
I drove by a locomotive factory and thought of all of you but not enough to take a picture.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


JuffoWup posted:

Yeah, youtube is becoming flooded with videos now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvKfu_EGZIk

Unf

Log082
Nov 8, 2008


Those Big Boy videos sure are something. It's impressive to see something that big up and running again, and that whistle...

Hot take, though: The Alleghenies are cooler. If I ever win the lottery, I'll pay for one of the two remaining ones to be restored...

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Log082 posted:

Those Big Boy videos sure are something. It's impressive to see something that big up and running again, and that whistle...

Hot take, though: The Alleghenies are cooler. If I ever win the lottery, I'll pay for one of the two remaining ones to be restored...

I sort of agree with you. I'm a big fan of the brutish styling, anything with a lot of appliances on the front of the smokebox looks great imo.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


Log082 posted:

Those Big Boy videos sure are something. It's impressive to see something that big up and running again, and that whistle...

Hot take, though: The Alleghenies are cooler. If I ever win the lottery, I'll pay for one of the two remaining ones to be restored...

I wish The Henry Ford Museum would get 1601 running.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one
It looks way too clean, I want to see the Big Boy covered in coal dust and belching fire. The way it was meant to be.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Hexyflexy posted:

It looks way too clean, I want to see the Big Boy covered in coal dust and belching fire. The way it was meant to be.

hard to do coal dust anymore as she was converted to burning oil now.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

JuffoWup posted:

hard to do coal dust anymore as she was converted to burning oil now.

I mean, how hard can “grind up coal, put in round-up dispenser, spray on” be?

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1R1wtYvhXU&t=1342s

If it doesn't start in the right place, the time tag is 22:22. Video of both 4014 and 844 running a double header.

Edit: I should add that I saw a video earlier from them rolling out the 4014 initially and I noticed there was a tender parked on the rail next to them with 4014 on it. The roof also appeared to have the paint all peeled up. So I'm starting to guess that while the engine itself was converted and runs on oil, the tender car seen right now is not the 4014's original tender car. Possibly borrowing the challenger's tender car since she was put out of commission for overhaul that was awaiting bigboy's finished restoration to get to. That would suggest the bigboy's tender hasn't been converted yet to oil tendering. I could be wrong and that 4014 in that case was something else entirely.

JuffoWup fucked around with this message at 22:35 on May 4, 2019

Tex Avery
Feb 13, 2012
UP confirmed a little while ago that they went ahead and put 3985's tender behind 4014 so that they could meet the deadline. 4014's tender will eventually be converted to oil, but it can wait a little bit since 3985 is down.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Tex Avery posted:

UP confirmed a little while ago that they went ahead and put 3985's tender behind 4014 so that they could meet the deadline. 4014's tender will eventually be converted to oil, but it can wait a little bit since 3985 is down.

That's fine by me. The main body is running under her own power again.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Schadenboner posted:

I mean, how hard can “grind up coal, put in round-up dispenser, spray on” be?

There's probably environmental concerns as well as logistics.

Brovine
Dec 24, 2011

Mooooo?

Tex Avery posted:

UP confirmed a little while ago that they went ahead and put 3985's tender behind 4014 so that they could meet the deadline. 4014's tender will eventually be converted to oil, but it can wait a little bit since 3985 is down.

Not sure about the USA, but in the UK it was very very normal for locomotives to have tender swaps during their service lives. Not always to the same type, either.

Tex Avery
Feb 13, 2012

Brovine posted:

Not sure about the USA, but in the UK it was very very normal for locomotives to have tender swaps during their service lives. Not always to the same type, either.

In the days of regular steam locomotive service, it was pretty common here in the US too, mostly on the larger railroads. If you have a whole fleet of locomotives that all use the same tender, it will make no operational difference if you swap tender A for tender B. I'm pretty certain that the Challengers and the Big Boys used the same type of Centipede tenders, so really, the only people who are crying are the ones saying "but that's not what it has when it was at the museum in California!", not realizing that, more than likely, that wasn't even the one it was built with.

Brovine
Dec 24, 2011

Mooooo?
I'm not sure they cared much about keeping the same type, either...

Midland Railway #158A, originally #2 and later LMS 20002, built in 1866 and still in service in 1947 as a station pilot (Shunting/banking/etc). Currently restored and on display.

Photo here is in 1935:

http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/mrb17.htm

Photo here is in preservation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_Railway_156_Class#/media/File:MR_158A_at_Swanwick_1.jpg

Original tender was scrapped over a century ago, and the one now with it at preservation came from a freight locomotive from the same era instead. I don't have a clue which is closer to the original, but probably the preserved one.

Brovine fucked around with this message at 10:10 on May 5, 2019

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012
Well, thanks for the education on the tender story. The 4014 tender appeared to be shorter, but whatever. Not that big a deal.

Anyway, this will be my last posting of videos. Youtube is flooding on them and while I'm enjoying them, I'm gonna let our fellow goon who went out to chase them share he/her videos of it.

First up, Union Pacific puts out their advert type video about the 4014's return to service:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqzaSDiM-A

And the last is a compilation of the first day run:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4-pql_G8Rg

Lastly, does anyone have a youtube link showing how an articulated engine works on taking curves? The last video has some shots of it taking turns, but the camera always zooms out before it takes it so you can't see it. Was talking to a co-worker about it and she hadn't heard of it and thought it sounded weird when I tried to describe it.

Arishtat
Jan 2, 2011

JuffoWup posted:

Well, thanks for the education on the tender story. The 4014 tender appeared to be shorter, but whatever. Not that big a deal.

Anyway, this will be my last posting of videos. Youtube is flooding on them and while I'm enjoying them, I'm gonna let our fellow goon who went out to chase them share he/her videos of it.

First up, Union Pacific puts out their advert type video about the 4014's return to service:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqzaSDiM-A

And the last is a compilation of the first day run:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4-pql_G8Rg

Lastly, does anyone have a youtube link showing how an articulated engine works on taking curves? The last video has some shots of it taking turns, but the camera always zooms out before it takes it so you can't see it. Was talking to a co-worker about it and she hadn't heard of it and thought it sounded weird when I tried to describe it.

You're in luck. Periscope has an old Union Pacific promotional film that fits the bill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXcD6ZdPR9k&t=312s

It's a long film so I linked to the part where the animations explaining what a Mallet type locomotive is and how it works.

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JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Arishtat posted:

You're in luck. Periscope has an old Union Pacific promotional film that fits the bill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXcD6ZdPR9k&t=312s

It's a long film so I linked to the part where the animations explaining what a Mallet type locomotive is and how it works.

Sweet, that is exactly what I was looking for. And I get the feeling I've seen this before as that animation is exactly what I had in mind when looking. Also, facinating to see the challenger 3985 there in old footage :)
So thanks again!

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