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Colonel Cancer posted:It's like fallout was never supposed to be a serious setting and people who think it is should take their heads out their rear end. It's 50s but postpapocalyptic and with occasional edge lord dark humor. yeah the old games were goofy as hell and were beloved for it, but Bethesda's team didn't realize that so we wound up with Fallout 3 New Vegas is best when it's not trying to be a serious gritty drama
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Colonel Cancer posted:It's like fallout was never supposed to be a serious setting and people who think it is should take their heads out their rear end. It's 50s but postpapocalyptic and with occasional edge lord dark humor. I mean if people accept the premise "USA still existed in some form in 2077" they should just accept any ludicrous thing.
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Apr 29, 2019 01:53
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Fallout 2 was really dull and boring, like all isometric RPGs. Wizardry clones forever.
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Apr 29, 2019 01:55
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Right on buddy where's Grimrock 3 already drat.
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Apr 29, 2019 02:06
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2d games were a mistake. Now every "gamer" has to pretend that they were actually much better than games today.
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Apr 29, 2019 02:08
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:Right on buddy where's Grimrock 3 already drat. Last I saw there was a statement from the dev team that they were too burned out from Grimrock 2 and decided to take a break from the series for an unspecified amount of time. But the real reason I think there is not a Grimrock 3 is that Grimrock 2 didn't have nearly the return on investment that Grimrock 1 had.
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:Right on buddy where's Grimrock 3 already drat. If youve not already got it, Operencia came out last month and aint bad. Much easier than the usual Wizardry clone but has interesting level design and is good exposure to eastern european take on mythologies. A Wizardry and Chill if you will
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Apr 29, 2019 02:28
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Grimrock and its sequel were pretty amazing, especially if you were willing to break the mold wrt classes. Like an all/multi mage GR1 (yeah it'll get real annoying) or rat party with insanely high stats in GR2.
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Apr 29, 2019 02:33
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The Switch Pro controller is the best controller ever made.
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Apr 29, 2019 02:48
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ratbert90 posted:The Switch Pro controller is the best controller ever made. Real shame the controller drops so many inputs it screws up a post slamming it this badly.
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Vegetable posted:try not shoving it up your rear end I will never stop shoving it up my rear end
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ratbert90 posted:The Switch Pro controller is the best controller ever made. I'm sorry that you have the hands of a small child.
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FoolyCharged posted:The n64 controller was fine and cool the N64 controller is a piece of poo poo made for some weird person with 3 hands that assumes I want to use a trigger and an analog stick 1/2" away from the buttons on my right hand in the most awkward and terrible position possible; also gently caress anyone that thinks goldeneye was a good FPS. QuarkJets posted:yeah the old games were goofy as hell and were beloved for it, but Bethesda's team didn't realize that so we wound up with Fallout 3 it is too bad there will never be a real Fallout game again after NV because the setting was pretty sweet; but maybe I'm also getting old. Vakal posted:Last I saw there was a statement from the dev team that they were too burned out from Grimrock 2 and decided to take a break from the series for an unspecified amount of time. and this sucks because LoG1 and 2 were amazing games and you fuckers bitching about RPGs who didn't play them are the cause of this travesty. MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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MrQwerty posted:it is too bad there will never be a real Fallout game again after NV because the setting was pretty sweet; but maybe I'm also getting old. is Caesars legion or the NCR even mentioned at all in Fallout 4? new Vegas feels like a seperate universe apart from bethesda Fallout.
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Rutibex posted:is Caesars legion or the NCR even mentioned at all in Fallout 4? new Vegas feels like a seperate universe apart from bethesda Fallout. Exactly as much as people reference the events of Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
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Rutibex posted:is Caesars legion or the NCR even mentioned at all in Fallout 4? new Vegas feels like a seperate universe apart from bethesda Fallout. I don't think they are, but also 4 takes place in Boston so it's not too unreasonable that political struggles on the other side of the country wouldn't be known about.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I don't think they are, but also 4 takes place in Boston so it's not too unreasonable that political struggles on the other side of the country wouldn't be known about. Super Mutants, BOS and Deathclaws don't make any loving sense in the setting if you played Fallout or Fallout 2, or read any of the Fallout Bibles when it was still in limbo and a P&P RPG; but Bethesda very specifically bought the assets and not the lore as evidenced by Fallout 3 and 4. Fallout 4 was basically a soft-restart as a story-"heavy" shooter, and 76 was... I don't know what 76 was, but I doubt anyone that actually worked on Fallout 1-2-NV has any interest in working on the franchise again after what happened with New Vegas. This is surprising because Bethesda is amazing at writing 46 1,000 page books of lore but terrible at making a game about said lore or conveying that lore in any way, shape or form. You'd think they'd love the Fallout lore, but they loving hate it. MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I don't think they are, but also 4 takes place in Boston so it's not too unreasonable that political struggles on the other side of the country wouldn't be known about. except that the BOS, the enclave, super mutants etc. are already on the east coast without regard for in-universe consistency
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I think one of the characters is from NCR, but it’s mentioned like once. No mentions of House as far as I can remember (his name might show up on a message in some RobCo factory somewhere, idk) and no mention of Caesar
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the only way to save the fallout lore at this point is to retcon all of bethesda's contributions
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Apr 29, 2019 15:02
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Fallout 3 and Uncharted have more interesting stories and are better games than nier automata
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poverty goat posted:the only way to save the fallout lore at this point is to retcon all of bethesda's contributions This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I definitely agree with it
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Sheen Sheen posted:This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I definitely agree with it I agree 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% can't retcon NV though because that was not bethesda MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Apr 29, 2019 15:10
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ratbert90 posted:The Switch Pro controller is the best controller ever made. It's almost there. If it had analog triggers it'd be perfect.
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The next Fallout game should be made by Gearbox
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steinrokkan posted:The next Fallout game should be made by Gearbox That would be a good way to piss off everyone and therefore I agree
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ratbert90 posted:The Switch Pro controller is the best controller ever made. do you have a newer one because the early models at least had serious issues with the d-pad, is that no longer the case?
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food court bailiff posted:do you have a newer one because the early models at least had serious issues with the d-pad, is that no longer the case? I love me a DualShock4 but the switch pro controller is so well designed I want to gently caress it, and I hate offset controller patterns
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Everybody knows Megaman 8 has really terrible voice acting, but it doesn't get enough poo poo for the almost impossible to beat snowboard sections. If you've never played, you're on a snowboard that speeds up as you move through the segment, and these little signs pop up and tell you when to slide or to jump. Except the problem is, if you move from a specific part exactly in the middle of the screen (like to dodge an enemy) the timing is all off and you'll jump too early or too late or slide right into some spikes. Even if you're exactly where you need to be, the timing will gently caress you over more often than not. I've beaten every classic Megaman game but have never been able to beat the snowboard segment in Wily's Fortress in 8. I never will.
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i beat that game as a two day rental when I was ten and I wasn’t some kind of game savant or anything were you playing this recently because I can imagine it would be difficult on a cheap badly tuned lcd but have never understood complaints about that section, people act like it’s that level from battletoads or something
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I didn't think this could possibly be unpopular but the dualshock is the de facto perfect videogame controller, the face buttons, the triggers the dpad the analogue sticks. You couldn't make a better device. The gamecube and n64 controllers were cool for how novel they were.
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MrQwerty posted:Super Mutants, BOS and Deathclaws don't make any loving sense in the setting if you played Fallout or Fallout 2, or read any of the Fallout Bibles when it was still in limbo and a P&P RPG; but Bethesda very specifically bought the assets and not the lore as evidenced by Fallout 3 and 4. Fallout 4 was basically a soft-restart as a story-"heavy" shooter, and 76 was... I don't know what 76 was, but I doubt anyone that actually worked on Fallout 1-2-NV has any interest in working on the franchise again after what happened with New Vegas. I'm completely willing to accept "Bethesda sucks" as an answer tbqh.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Fallout 3 and Uncharted have more interesting stories and are better games than nier automata Most games have more interesting stories and are better games that nier automata. There are games that I don't like that others do where they're not for me but I can understand the appeal. N:a is not one of them - I honestly cannot understand why anyone likes it. And I played it through all the major endings.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I'm completely willing to accept "Bethesda sucks" as an answer tbqh. Bethesda loving sucks.
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MrQwerty posted:Bethesda loving sucks. I went to a wedding in a hotel next door to their HQ a few years ago, and I drunkenly pissed on the side of the building 
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The Pirate Captain posted:Most games have more interesting stories and are better games that nier automata. There are games that I don't like that others do where they're not for me but I can understand the appeal. N:a is not one of them - I honestly cannot understand why anyone likes it. And I played it through all the major endings. I can understand people liking the clever use of narrative, the streets of rage/ golden axe level combat is something I just can't appreciate.
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MrQwerty posted:This is surprising because Bethesda is amazing at writing 46 1,000 page books of lore but terrible at making a game about said lore or conveying that lore in any way, shape or form. they're not good at writing lore anymore, that was a single dude who wrote most of them in a cocaine-fuelled frenzy in a shack for morrowind (or so the legend goes) and they keep reusing that library with maybe a handful of additions in oblivion and skyrim incidentally morrowind is the last of their games that was actually about the lore and conveyed it well through the game MrQwerty posted:Bethesda loving sucks. weirdly zenimax online or whoever does ESO is pretty cool?
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food court bailiff posted:weirdly zenimax online or whoever does ESO is pretty cool? there's some poo poo I've seen, lore-wise that makes me want to revisit ESO. then I remember it's an MMO and I remember the years of EvE. I'm good on MMOs.
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MrQwerty posted:there's some poo poo I've seen, lore-wise that makes me want to revisit ESO. eso is p good and f2p though, like $10 will get you a much better elder scrolls experience than oblivion straight-up the morrowind expansion is  if you liked that game at all because it takes place right as the tribunal starts noticing their waning power
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